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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:33 GMT
#2157
Damdred I don't get it. There are several people on batsnacks who didn't really mention him earlier and you are going after Dr. H who like you just showed did?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:39 GMT
#2163
On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr

Dr. H
Koshi
JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration)
Palmar
Kelsier
Eden
I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell.


That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ.


I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second.

This is a good post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:42 GMT
#2165
Robik, are you really telling me you don't have a read on me besides how I treated you?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:45 GMT
#2170
lol what? Where did you get that read from?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:45 GMT
#2171
@Robik obviously
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:48 GMT
#2174
On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:
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On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 19:53 GMT
#2179
On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts.

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:02 GMT
#2183
On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts.

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.

Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum"

Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:07 GMT
#2186
On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts.

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.

Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum"

Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.

Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game.

Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:10 GMT
#2189
On January 03 2015 05:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
lol what? Where did you get that read from?

It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok

Did you read anything that was posted during the night?

Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts.

No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game.

Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum"

Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read.

Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game.

Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw.


Except for the part where I have admittedly not played the first 3/4 of the game.

Maybe. Still looking forward to all the wrecking.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:19 GMT
#2194
On January 03 2015 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia.

I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid.

I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2.

I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI

If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you?

They were town reading me before that for not playing. I specifically remember ritoky doing it but I don't remember who else did. It just felt weird and like I said, it irked me that JAT puts pressure on me every game and now this game all of a sudden he doesn't.

Think hard about it. Could there be a reason for me to give you a one day pass in this game that did not exist in others?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:23 GMT
#2198
I don't know if I believe that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:25 GMT
#2201
On January 03 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:23 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know if I believe that.

It's not about what you believe. It's about what I believe you believe

For you. Not for me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:27 GMT
#2205
You don't think I would give you a one day pass after you explicitly said you would up your play day2 when you have a perfectly valid reason not to be very active day1?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:29 GMT
#2208
On January 03 2015 05:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can't get over sicklucker saying town is fucked when he also thinks town caught 2 mafia in the other bandwagons...why assume chyz or geript will survive this game

Yeah, sicklucker is rubbing me the wrong way too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:31 GMT
#2212
On January 03 2015 05:29 Palmar wrote:
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On January 03 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
To all the people complaining about the lynch - next time you stay up until 6 am and push what YOU think and then you can complain. GTFO
Koshi at least really tried to make us lynch Vivax so he is allowed to rage a little but Palmar you are certainly not. And if anyone keeps telling me that this was obviously batsnacks towngame I am calling you a liar. Or an idiot. Your choice.


No I tried to make you kill geript.

The deadline is at 5 am. Fuck you for saying I'm not allowed to be mad when I even said that I was going to bed, and I actually explained who to vote for if you guys really wanted to voteswitch.


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote:
geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play.

On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote:
Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next.


This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing.

In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it.

There are only two options here.

#1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence.

#2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation.

I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch.




Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him.


And then this post.

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On January 02 2015 09:33 Palmar wrote:
[b]I'm going to bed. If you idiots voteswitch (I know last minute switching is like some fucked up porn for TL mafia players. You think it's a great idea, and you love it while it's happening, but you don't know what to think of yourself afterwards) then Vivax isn't a bad choice.

Tbh I'd be sorta okay lynching Chyz, his "I quit" post is completely unacceptable behavior. You need the balls to stand up to a bit of tunneling in mafia, but I just think he has less of a chance to flip mafia than geript or vivax.


You ignored me on three better lynches and lynched a townread of mine.

This means you cannot be anything other than mafia. Also, you saying it's not reasonable for me to be mad is so dumb that I'm okay with lynching you no matter your alignment.

Tomorrow, you're the one I'm voting. And every day after that until one of us is dead. I will repost this exact post if needed, as contains everything required to completely prove you're mafia or so bad as town that you're not worth keeping alive.

lol, cute
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:32 GMT
#2213
On January 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:
You don't think I would give you a one day pass after you explicitly said you would up your play day2 when you have a perfectly valid reason not to be very active day1?

Yup. I think you're too aggro as town to give anyone a pass. "Fuck you, if you're not gonna play I'm gonna lynch you". Especially me who you notoriously call mafia every game

Then you are just wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:34 GMT
#2216
On January 03 2015 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Yeah but don't we agree on his three reads there? JAT you suspect Vivax and geript too do you not? I think we should lynch geript tomorrow and get this game where it should have been tonight before we start lynching for pride

Maybe. We will see tomorrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:36 GMT
#2219
On January 03 2015 05:32 marvellosity wrote:
just got home and not read anything other than this page.

jat is town, as fearsome as his mafia game may be, he's not 16 pages before day 2 starts on a NYE start good.

fin

You need to push a lynch day2. It annoys me to no end that I still think you are town even though your filter length is a joke and you didn't seem to really care about the lynch yesterday.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 20:37 GMT
#2220
On January 03 2015 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Yeah but don't we agree on his three reads there? JAT you suspect Vivax and geript too do you not? I think we should lynch geript tomorrow and get this game where it should have been tonight before we start lynching for pride

Maybe. We will see tomorrow.

You're not down with a geript lynch? What would you suggest as a better jumping off point.

I don't know what I will be down with tomorrow. I would like to see the nightkills for example and reevaluate then. Geript is certainly on my list though.
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