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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:46 GMT
#7425
SL, I'm getting kinda pissed of about you. I think you are probably town but you continue to make shit arguments for thinking I am scum.

Its like you already decided D1/D2 what alignment I was, and then whatever I am saying you are twisting it in the most ridiculous ways to make it fit your theory that I am scum.

If you really care about winning my game, try read my filter. Try this time to think that I might be town, instead of assuming that all my actions are from a scum PoV. If you still think I'm scum after that, fine. But read it first.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 17:51 GMT
#7426
I just read through GBs filter and I seriously have absolutely no idea why he thinks that I am scum. Can someone read his filter and help me out here?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 18:26 GMT
#7431
On January 13 2015 03:00 sicklucker wrote:
Its not my personal opinion its just a fact of the game.

Waitwat. What post are you refering to here?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 18:27 GMT
#7432
On January 13 2015 03:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I just read through GBs filter and I seriously have absolutely no idea why he thinks that I am scum. Can someone read his filter and help me out here?


Hammering Superbia.

Period.

So I'm scum for hammering scum! Nice logic bro.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 18:32 GMT
#7434
Vivax vote GB with me.

For town. For justice.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 19:06 GMT
#7440
I love how GB afks comes in and says this
On January 13 2015 03:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I just read through GBs filter and I seriously have absolutely no idea why he thinks that I am scum. Can someone read his filter and help me out here?


Hammering Superbia.

Period.

And afks again.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 19:24 GMT
#7444
On January 13 2015 04:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
I love how GB afks comes in and says this
On January 13 2015 03:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 13 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I just read through GBs filter and I seriously have absolutely no idea why he thinks that I am scum. Can someone read his filter and help me out here?


Hammering Superbia.

Period.

And afks again.


Lazer, besides GB who do you think makes up the scum team at this point and why?

Not really sure. I really think GB is the best lynch today.

Palmar would probably be my second bet. Being on all the wrong wagons, not having a very impressive play overall.

Unsure about the last one but if I'd had to guess it would be either marv or kel.

Kel because of his interaction with ritoky and superbia.

Marv because his play has been quite unimpressive this far + he is still alive. But TBH I haven't read marv yet so I'm still relativly unsure about this.

Alot of this also comes down to PoE. I think you, Vivax, and Chyz are very very unlikely to be scum. SL and Artanis are also unlikely to be scum. This narrows down my list of possible scum quite a bit.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 19:25 GMT
#7446
On January 13 2015 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm bored, sorry.

I won't even be mad if you guys lynch me because I understand I'm not playing optimal.

But this game, I don't know... It bored me. In a way I can't get involved.

I can't stop thinking LM is mafia and I'll be voting him, though.

But in the end I may sheep koshi/Robik into Vivax because koshi has got swag or marv into palmar because if r gets palmar wrong we just lynch him next day.

Can we please lynch GB now?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 19:48 GMT
#7451
On January 13 2015 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb?


I can't say much, really.

If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now.

Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO.
If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO.

Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who?

I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town.


On January 13 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.

I'm sure LM is.

On January 10 2015 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
In a silent thread, with the lynch well defined, I started posting to further solve the game.

What is the scum motive to push the thread forward?


Come on now. Do you really think your contributions before our conversation had any more value than a token effort to ensure you are able to make the very argument you are now making?


HAHAHAHAHAHA
See? This is exactly what I said it was going to happen.

Answer: yes, because I'm not being strongly scum read, I had no motive to gain towncred with it. I'm also giving another scum, lazermonkey, on a silver platter

On January 10 2015 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Regardless the theory you have of why mafia preferred lynching ritoky, it's obvious Superbia was hammered by mafia, which makes Lazer mafia.

Marv, it made sense a scum team of SL and Robik to me, after a Robik flip, it's weird that SL sheeped Robik if he is mafia.
I still don't know who the last mafia are. SL isn't under my radar. But I think there are better lynch targets.

Marv, I wouldn't flip my read on Lazer after a vote count analysis without being pushed just to gain towncred. Come one.
If I gain that much towncred I die at night. I only survive if I am mafia. And I'll e obvious mafia after that. You do understand how this is a town play and not a mafia play, I know you do.

So I'm not a strong scum read after all?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 19:54 GMT
#7454
On January 13 2015 04:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 04:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb?


I can't say much, really.

If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now.

Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO.
If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO.

Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who?

I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town.


On January 13 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.

I'm sure LM is.

On January 10 2015 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
In a silent thread, with the lynch well defined, I started posting to further solve the game.

What is the scum motive to push the thread forward?


Come on now. Do you really think your contributions before our conversation had any more value than a token effort to ensure you are able to make the very argument you are now making?


HAHAHAHAHAHA
See? This is exactly what I said it was going to happen.

Answer: yes, because I'm not being strongly scum read, I had no motive to gain towncred with it. I'm also giving another scum, lazermonkey, on a silver platter

On January 10 2015 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Regardless the theory you have of why mafia preferred lynching ritoky, it's obvious Superbia was hammered by mafia, which makes Lazer mafia.

Marv, it made sense a scum team of SL and Robik to me, after a Robik flip, it's weird that SL sheeped Robik if he is mafia.
I still don't know who the last mafia are. SL isn't under my radar. But I think there are better lynch targets.

Marv, I wouldn't flip my read on Lazer after a vote count analysis without being pushed just to gain towncred. Come one.
If I gain that much towncred I die at night. I only survive if I am mafia. And I'll e obvious mafia after that. You do understand how this is a town play and not a mafia play, I know you do.

So I'm not a strong scum read after all?


Nope. You're my best read, that's all, because it makes sense under my theory mafia didn't know Robik was really the cop.

Thats like... Not the impression you get from reading those posts.

And why would you base everything on the fact that scum didn't know Robik was the cop? I have already explained why I think this is an insanely unlikely scenario but even then, this is crazy wifom.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 20:12 GMT
#7467
On January 13 2015 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 04:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb?


I can't say much, really.

If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now.

Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO.
If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO.

Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who?

I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town.

On January 13 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.

I'm sure LM is.

On January 10 2015 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
In a silent thread, with the lynch well defined, I started posting to further solve the game.

What is the scum motive to push the thread forward?


Come on now. Do you really think your contributions before our conversation had any more value than a token effort to ensure you are able to make the very argument you are now making?


HAHAHAHAHAHA
See? This is exactly what I said it was going to happen.

Answer: yes, because I'm not being strongly scum read, I had no motive to gain towncred with it. I'm also giving another scum, lazermonkey, on a silver platter

On January 10 2015 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Regardless the theory you have of why mafia preferred lynching ritoky, it's obvious Superbia was hammered by mafia, which makes Lazer mafia.

Marv, it made sense a scum team of SL and Robik to me, after a Robik flip, it's weird that SL sheeped Robik if he is mafia.
I still don't know who the last mafia are. SL isn't under my radar. But I think there are better lynch targets.

Marv, I wouldn't flip my read on Lazer after a vote count analysis without being pushed just to gain towncred. Come one.
If I gain that much towncred I die at night. I only survive if I am mafia. And I'll e obvious mafia after that. You do understand how this is a town play and not a mafia play, I know you do.

So I'm not a strong scum read after all?


Nope. You're my best read, that's all, because it makes sense under my theory mafia didn't know Robik was really the cop.

Thats like... Not the impression you get from reading those posts.

And why would you base everything on the fact that scum didn't know Robik was the cop? I have already explained why I think this is an insanely unlikely scenario but even then, this is crazy wifom.


Best scenario through my POV

You are sure I am scum = best case scenario?

The backpaddel is real...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 20:13 GMT
#7469
On January 13 2015 05:12 Vivax wrote:
##Vote marvellosity

no, kill GB...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 20:15 GMT
#7471
Vivax, GB is 100% lying. He really got caught in a fucked up position. Him being town now is impossible. Go vote him. Marv might be scum but I'd rather kill guaranteed scum than possible scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 20:28 GMT
#7476
On January 13 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, would you lynch marv?
Palmar, would you lynch Artanis?

LM, would you lynch marv?
LM, would you lynch Palmar?

Artanis, would you lynch marv?

Damdred, would you lynch marv?

This depends on the situation. I'd rather kill you than Palmar, I'd rather kill Palmar than marv. I don't really feel like killing marv right now but if I had to chose between him and lets say Vivax, then I would lynch marv.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 20:37 GMT
#7478
On January 13 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:
What gives you the townie feels about marv LM?

Do you know his town reputation?Did you see the flipchart on D1 Artanis posted?

It was 6 months since I last played mafia but I have played with him before and I know that he is a very strong player. Like I said earlier, I don't think he is very good looking. But I feel better about killing GB right now.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#7487
watcha think about GB?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#7488
EBWOP: That was to marv.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 21:03 GMT
#7490
On January 13 2015 06:02 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I really think we should kill GB btw. Reposting this (EDITED the misstake in the post).

On January 12 2015 04:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Too many things about GB are pointing towards GB being scum atm I feel. There is no "SUPER SCUM MOVE" he has done but the at this point of the game I would expect scum to:

- not pushing superbia hard D1 and D2 (GB didn't do that)

- defend superbia (GB did that)

- vote ritoky over superbia (GB did that)

- Not having alot of strong town reads right now (GB doesn't have that)

This coupled with the fact that there aren't even that many people that could potentially be scum at this point (PoE basically) makes it very very likely that GB is scum.


##Vote: GlowingBear


I basically did all those things too.. well I didn't defend superbia more so than I called other lynches better.

Although I have a few townreads.

Still, I think this is a shitty reason.

Why are they shitty?

Also, what do you think of GBs play these last 2 pages?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 21:20 GMT
#7503
On January 13 2015 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Like is there a chance the mafia team is damdred/ksc/marv?

It's definitely possible.

I why is damdred scum? His push on superbia looks really townie to me.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2015 21:28 GMT
#7514
On January 13 2015 06:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 06:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 13 2015 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 13 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Like is there a chance the mafia team is damdred/ksc/marv?

It's definitely possible.

I why is damdred scum? His push on superbia looks really townie to me.

He hasn't really had a strong presence in this game.

Lazer you had me as potential scum earlier but now you think I'm likely town. What changed your perception of me?

I'm also curious on Palmar what in the JAT post made him consider me town as well.

Alot of that was based on the fact that I really never bothered to read. I never got a strong impression on you during the the game.

Your response to my points yesterday seemed fine though. I never went back and checked but I'm taking your word for it right now. Maybe I'll look into you later in the game. Right now I think you look good.
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