Imperial Mafia - Page 13

On January 13 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:

You're absolutely self-aware enough to do this Palmar. C'mon.

On January 13 2015 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
You know I can't possibly answer that question...

On January 13 2015 00:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I've expanded on this in an earlier post. It feels to me like you arbitrarily decided he was town halfway through the case when you couldn't find enough to incriminate him with a fairly meaningless post in "I suspect half the players". I find it hard to imagine that you find it hard to imagine for a scum player to say it as much as to go from scumreading to townreading someone, especially after you criticized him for creating a fake tone earlier. After that you suddenly view his posts in a townie light and do a decent job at that, which I suspect is because you know his alignment. I don't doubt that it could be forged.

On January 13 2015 00:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I think you're right in that he's mostly been in the background. He's been a question mark for me most of the game. He played a good Day 1 where he drew conclusions (albeit the wrong ones initially, town on ritoky/scum on Dr.H), asked a lot of questions and seemed to be on the hunt for information. On Day 2 he was on the right lynch as well but he hasn't been very impactful, no, and that leaves him in the question mark area. He was the second person to get on Superbia after me when there was no idea if it was going to take off or not.

On January 13 2015 00:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Of course I doubt it, because I think there's a good chance you're scum. I was on the wagon reluctantly because I felt he was a better lynch than Vivax and it looked like Superbia wasn't going to get lynched when I went to bed.

On January 13 2015 00:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm curious how you have an opinion on Damdred but not on Lazer, whom Damdred has been talking about ever since Superbia died.

On January 13 2015 00:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Obviously if you're scum you want as many potential lynch targets as you can which would explain starting with trying to paint him off scummy. Reading through his filter, you figured TownPalmar would not be able to justify scumreading him so you changed your intent to look townie instead.

As for GB always being town, that depends. If you're scum, I agree. If you're town however, I can see a scum GB being cheeky and making comments like that. With how often he's done it this game it could definitely be a deliberate strategy.

On January 05 2015 09:17 Damdred wrote:
Lynch superbia the anger at the cop claim is so bad do it vote him

On January 08 2015 04:58 Palmar wrote:
Like I was wrong on geript. I'm partly mad at myself being wrong because I read him again and there were definitely signs that he was town that I ignored. I'm also partly mad at geript for being completely shit when about to be lynched. Like I had more respect for him as a player than to think he'd go down without giving us something to work with.

IMO it's the responsibility of people who are being targeted for a lynch to step up and actually do things. Because it reveals the reasons people are on their wagons, and can often help filter townies from mafia on town wagons.

So after I got him lynched I seriously lost most of my motivation for the game. I feel like I have no dots to connect and that I'm lynching blindly into a bunch of people that could possibly be mafia. Hell even my two townreads from day 1, artanis and drh, now feel like they could very well be mafia.

The lynch today is probably either gb or ritoky (please don't lynch sicklucker, there's just less chance he does something like he did as mafia. Like I don't think he's gutsy enough to do the whole claiming shenanigans as mafia). Both of them could be mafia, and I'm sure on neither. I don't even know which one to go after.

If marv is mafia, which I highly suspect, based on that one post he made in the night, then that doesn't even say much, because with both these targets, marv has soft pushed them and then not done anything with it (ritoky on day 1 and gb on day 2). JAT was about the only player this game I sort of enjoyed interacting with, but that's probably more on me than anyone else. Well I guess I like Vivax too.

If Vivax is mafia I'll just applaud the effort. I've liked a bunch of stuff he has posted.

I've also ignored laz0r because of the sicklucker thing on day 2 and I just haven't had the cares to catch up on him. I probably should.

Someone in this game got really mad at something at some point that I thought was really strange. It might have been superbia, but idk. Maybe we should lynch him? What happened to people wanting to lynch superbia?

On January 13 2015 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar do you understand how your play this game hasn't really fitted into either your usual town or mafia frameworks?

On January 13 2015 01:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Like Marv said, he's pushed Superbia on D2 and he's been pushing LM ever since. Speaking of which, I'd still like to hear your opinion on LM. I'd also like examples of questions from Damdred that you feel were pointless or without followup.

On January 13 2015 01:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I always feel like there's two narratives for every person; a Town narrative and a Scum narrative. If you try hard enough either can fit. The problem is that with your filter and approach to the game I feel a scum narrative is more likely to be the case. I'm trying out both lenses but to confront you with the town narrative for your actions wouldn't really help establish my read on you any better.

On January 13 2015 01:08 Palmar wrote:

Yes, sort of.

In fact, on the surface there is one trait that (can be reasonably explained) that should make me 100% mafia this game by a certain metric I know you use.

On March 27 2014 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
Mainly Palmar is not playing the game at all. He has 6 pages of filter, but he's literally not playing. The big problem is that he is pretending to play. You'll find quotes littered from me across various games giving 3 scenarios for Palmar:

1) he tries hard and he is productive. He is town.
2) he blatantly doesn't give a shit and doesn't hide the fact he is not productive. He is town.
3) he looks like he's playing the game a bit but in reality is unproductive. He is mafia.

On January 13 2015 01:19 marvellosity wrote:

yup, and that's the townside.

it's the half-hearted, intermittent giving of fucks that is more the issue. oddly to anyone else i guess.

On January 13 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
is the answer going to be illuminatingly alignment indicative in some way?