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Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin.
Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument!
Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered?
On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.
As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:
Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie
Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier
Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal
I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.
HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.
tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.
Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!
On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason?
Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps?
Santa also updated his list on the way to America.
Nice:
Koshi Half the Sky Oatsmaster kitaman27 Damdred rsoultin froggynoddy kushm4sta sicklucker Alakaslam Vivax ObiWanShinobi The_Templar Xatalos LightningStrike liancourt batsnacks ritoky Fecalfeast Holyflare GlowingBear LoneMeow Trfel Tubesock KelsierSC
27ninjabunnies
Naughty:
27ninjabunnies
Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/[Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list
However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study.
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bats, I disagree. I can easily see someone agreeing with the intent of Bunnies' opinion on Froggy while not having an opinion on him himself, and then agree with HF that bunnies' list is not terribly good.
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On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin. Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.
As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:
Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie
Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier
Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal
I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.
HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.
tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.
Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow! On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: KoshiHalf the SkyOatsmasterkitaman27Damdredrsoultinfroggynoddykushm4stasickluckerAlakaslamVivaxObiWanShinobiThe_TemplarXatalosLightningStrikeliancourtbatsnacksritokyFecalfeastHolyflareGlowingBearLoneMeowTrfelTubesockKelsierSC27ninjabunniesNaughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/ [Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person.
There is plenty of information in that fluff.
Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully.
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On December 09 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.
this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored. Do you? I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is. You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/ I'm as blue as the sea + Show Spoiler + Santa realized that GlowingBear had colored himself a color that was not in the spirit of christmas. Did this indicate naughty behavior, or was he simply misguided or colorblind?
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On December 09 2014 09:44 Holyflare wrote: You actually just keep saying what im saying templar but then dont really comment on me being anywhere on your list, why is that? I haven't read your posts currently. You are right in that I probably should do so, but already there are too many people in this thread. This is the first game I have played that is not a mini.
Will be studying for finals taking place early tomorrow morning for some time. I will revisit this thread quickly and update you on the thoughts of Santa and [Not]SanTa later.
By the way, I wonder why people were so quick to confirm me as 100% town based on those posts I made. Here and here specifically. My posts were not remarkably townie.
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On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin. Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.
As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:
Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie
Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier
Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal
I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.
HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.
tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.
Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow! On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: KoshiHalf the SkyOatsmasterkitaman27Damdredrsoultinfroggynoddykushm4stasickluckerAlakaslamVivaxObiWanShinobiThe_TemplarXatalosLightningStrikeliancourtbatsnacksritokyFecalfeastHolyflareGlowingBearLoneMeowTrfelTubesockKelsierSC27ninjabunniesNaughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/ [Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully. plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads. this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you Why is the fact that GlowingBear is criticizing me important? Why do I seem too defensive? My second post (the longest one) in the Santa vein has several people that looked peculiar (kita, frog, ninjabunnies). I generally do not have a lot of reads.
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On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote: I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum The also town thing was already discussed. Which points does she make similarly to NB?
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On December 09 2014 09:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:51 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin. Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.
As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:
Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie
Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier
Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal
I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.
HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.
tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.
Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow! On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: KoshiHalf the SkyOatsmasterkitaman27Damdredrsoultinfroggynoddykushm4stasickluckerAlakaslamVivaxObiWanShinobiThe_TemplarXatalosLightningStrikeliancourtbatsnacksritokyFecalfeastHolyflareGlowingBearLoneMeowTrfelTubesockKelsierSC27ninjabunniesNaughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/ [Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully. plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads. this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you Why is the fact that GlowingBear is criticizing me important? Why do I seem too defensive? My second post (the longest one) in the Santa vein has several people that looked peculiar (kita, frog, ninjabunnies). I generally do not have a lot of reads. 1) context is everything, guy says "i haven't read the thread" and then criticizes you for posting fluff, is that really coming from a credible perspective worth giving large consideration to? 2) because the guy didn't read the thread then you posted this snark bark: "Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully." That's defensive as all hell. 3) If you don't have a lot of reads then why post a gigantic list on everyone in the game? Why not just post the 4 or 5 actual reads you have? seems like excessive clogging for no real reason. 1. He is important to me because he is calling me scum for fluff at the beginning of the game. This is the opposite of his normal "lynch lurkers" policy. 2. Admittedly, that is defensive. 3. That list is going to be updated.
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On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote: Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town
So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in. You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all. Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier who else had the same train of thought? my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker. I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1 Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope? I believe it's because he tried to point out important inconsistencies/double standards in the post of HtS.
This is my last post before studying.
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On December 09 2014 10:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 10:20 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 10:17 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 10:15 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 10:14 KelsierSC wrote: Who has slam as semi/tentative/half chub town.
nb, dam... Who else i have slam as full fledged town Why? And what does Kelsier think of slam? On December 09 2014 09:52 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:49 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin. Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.
As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:
Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie
Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier
Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal
I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.
HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.
tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.
Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow! On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: KoshiHalf the SkyOatsmasterkitaman27Damdredrsoultinfroggynoddykushm4stasickluckerAlakaslamVivaxObiWanShinobiThe_TemplarXatalosLightningStrikeliancourtbatsnacksritokyFecalfeastHolyflareGlowingBearLoneMeowTrfelTubesockKelsierSC27ninjabunniesNaughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/ [Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully. plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads. this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you So ritoky, what do you think about what vivax said about you? Why aren't you pushing your scum reads really? don't have any yet. no1 has done anything blatantly strange imo, and that's where my day 1 scum reads come from. on another note, i think slam is like totally town. after seeing him as scum for the first time last game, he is nothing like he was. you even read bro? idk ask kelsier Nope, not at all. Just ask stupid questions. Better than stupid answers. Scum one game, and a game he pulled out of. Tsk tsk. For shame. Templar, where is that list? You mean that one I already posted? A few pages before
On December 09 2014 10:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:56 The_Templar wrote: ##Vote: KelsierSC ##Unvote ##Vote: Ninjabunnies Please explain. RNG into vote that I explained. Only included Kelsier because I had, in fact, voted him. Please try harder to bait further over-reaction.
Agreed that SL is a lot more mellow than he usually is as town. I do not know if this is a one-night thing or not.
On December 09 2014 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:33 Alakaslam wrote:On December 09 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 11:20 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 11:17 GlowingBear wrote: What is nl? No likey? Glowthebear. Slam and bats always town, or just special today? Dazzle me with glowing logic. Uhm, I've never called them town? I've called bats scum and slam only reveals himself as scum at later days. You won't have a read on him day one. Bats is scum for that wasted post on my entrance. Pointless and wishy washy (hey this guy is calling himself scum! Or color blind? Oh nevermind, SUDDEN REALISATION, BB code says blue) Slam, you're scum because you haven't post any insights yet. Defend thyself. Pffffffffffft Old tired claim What is there to insee? You tell me, bby. I feel you don't like me, slam. Personally. Maybe he's mad that you said it's impossible to read him now before reading him. Just a thought though.
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On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote: Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.
Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.
Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in. I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.
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On December 09 2014 11:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 10:23 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 10:20 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 10:17 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 10:15 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 10:14 KelsierSC wrote: Who has slam as semi/tentative/half chub town.
nb, dam... Who else i have slam as full fledged town Why? And what does Kelsier think of slam? On December 09 2014 09:52 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:49 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin. Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? [quote] On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: KoshiHalf the SkyOatsmasterkitaman27Damdredrsoultinfroggynoddykushm4stasickluckerAlakaslamVivaxObiWanShinobiThe_TemplarXatalosLightningStrikeliancourtbatsnacksritokyFecalfeastHolyflareGlowingBearLoneMeowTrfelTubesockKelsierSC27ninjabunniesNaughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/ [Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully. plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads. this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you So ritoky, what do you think about what vivax said about you? Why aren't you pushing your scum reads really? don't have any yet. no1 has done anything blatantly strange imo, and that's where my day 1 scum reads come from. on another note, i think slam is like totally town. after seeing him as scum for the first time last game, he is nothing like he was. you even read bro? idk ask kelsier Nope, not at all. Just ask stupid questions. Better than stupid answers. Scum one game, and a game he pulled out of. Tsk tsk. For shame. Templar, where is that list? You mean that one I already posted? A few pages before On December 09 2014 10:34 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 08:56 The_Templar wrote: ##Vote: KelsierSC ##Unvote ##Vote: Ninjabunnies Please explain. RNG into vote that I explained. Only included Kelsier because I had, in fact, voted him. Please try harder to bait further over-reaction.
Agreed that SL is a lot more mellow than he usually is as town. I do not know if this is a one-night thing or not. On December 09 2014 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 11:33 Alakaslam wrote:On December 09 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 11:20 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 11:17 GlowingBear wrote: What is nl? No likey? Glowthebear. Slam and bats always town, or just special today? Dazzle me with glowing logic. Uhm, I've never called them town? I've called bats scum and slam only reveals himself as scum at later days. You won't have a read on him day one. Bats is scum for that wasted post on my entrance. Pointless and wishy washy (hey this guy is calling himself scum! Or color blind? Oh nevermind, SUDDEN REALISATION, BB code says blue) Slam, you're scum because you haven't post any insights yet. Defend thyself. Pffffffffffft Old tired claim What is there to insee? You tell me, bby. I feel you don't like me, slam. Personally. Maybe he's mad that you said it's impossible to read him now before reading him. Just a thought though. Wow you're looking so mad. Are you okay? Thanks for being concerned. I am stressed out right now because this game started at a terrible time and I'm already investing more time than I have into it.
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On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.
this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored. Do you? I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is. You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/ And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child...
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I am back guys, but I am really wiped out from the exam + long car ride home. There being 20 new pages doesn't really help.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 20:42 Xatalos wrote:First things first, this really disturbed me: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:46 KelsierSC wrote: So i have noticed something with this set up. If you are scrooge just claim.
Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:55 KelsierSC wrote: Ah ignore my scrooge comment i misread one of the roles Something like this is really dangerous to say because it might actually out the blue role in the worst case. And the fast backtrack indicates that there wasn't any real thought behind this "plan". However, it appears that it was just a reaction test: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.
this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? It actually seems like KSC could believe what he's saying here. The way he goes after Fecalfeast after executing his "master plan" feels genuine enough. So I'd tentatively put KSC in the town camp. I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though. Moving on to more pressing issues, there's Half the Sky. Her posting has been somewhat suspicious from the very first post: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:52 Half the Sky wrote:On December 09 2014 08:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:Alright, so here is how it goes boys (and possible other girls?). You should be glad that I was rerolled into the game! You know why? Because I am amazing, and will lead town to an unbeatable victory! That being said. RNG is absolutely terrible. If you can't scum hunt, you don't belong in my game However, Templar is more likely town for that nonsense. Also, I have a hot date in an hour, and prob won't be back on again until the morning, so let's make some progress! Greetings everyone! 27NB, I'm also female, join the club and I drew town as well, so victory together! Good luck and have fun with your date. As for me, well, shopping for my significant other is done and dusted. Some years it's easier than others. Kelsier, can you please explain the Scrooge claim post? Agreed with HF, what are you seeing in this? It's almost a template Mafia first post. The first paragraph is purely focused on making friends and blending in ("you're town, I'm town, let's not lynch each other!"). As a minor point it's somewhat suspicious that she's immediately referring to another player as town. That would only truly make sense if Half the Sky is Mafia and 27ninjabunnies is town. The second paragraph is just fluff. The third paragraph merely asks some meekly toned questions without much apparent thought behind them (there's even another buddying attempt towards HF included). What's worse, I can't find anything related to these questions from her after her first post. Even though she responded to posts from KSC soon after. All in all: a completely useless post that appears somewhat useful, but in fact only furthers Mafia agenda (blending in, survival, gaining influence). Her following posts are mostly fluff (bad in itself when there's a post limit) or reactive answers to pressure. As she got some slight pressure on herself, she soon sheeped onto 27ninjabunnies (the easiest target) as her target: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote: So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?
Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.
What do you make of the froggy post and vivax? Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now. Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way. Then a very non-committal suspicion on Damdred: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:25 Half the Sky wrote: Damdred, regarding the list post...honestly that's a lot of reads for this early D1. For now though, take what I say on that with a grain of salt because I have not looked at too many of the people's posts she listed except Templar's story, etc.
I mean calling Kita iffy for just saying hey? Hmmmm....what is the norm for him? That seems odd at face value, and not knowing him at all. That's basically the extent of her contributions. I'd say that her posts so far have been mostly wasted fluff posts and some of them are actually pushing Mafia agenda (blending in, trying to appear useful without actually doing anything, and lastly spreading some very weak suspicion onto Damdred). So I think Half the Sky is quite likely Mafia here and seems like our best D1 lynch. ##Vote Half the SkyRegarding 27ninjabunnies, there are two reasons that make me think she might be town: 1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. 2) If Half the Sky is Mafia, I feel it's quite unlikely that 27ninjabunnies is Mafia as well. Pre-flip association, I know, but I don't think scum Half the Sky would easily pile on a scum 27ninjabunnies wagon or that she would first start casually discussing with 27ninjabunnies and refer to her as town. So I don't really think 27ninjabunnies is a good lynch for these reasons. Another Mafia candidate I feel would be LightningStrike. This is basically her whole contribution so far and it's a pretty useless listpost: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back and here my current reads Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky Scum: sicklucker sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that. As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people. sicklucker is the main scumread and the reasoning for that is very, very weak. Not to mention there are many townreads without any reasoning whatsoever. About this #PresentGate... sicklucker seems very town from his confused claim. I don't think I've ever seen Mafia claim their role early on D1, especially in such a badly executed manner.
While the underlined portions show some lack of reading the entire thread, I mostly agree with this post. I don't think there were enough votes on NB to make it likely she was town (barely half the town was voting her). I think Half the Sky, if mafia, would be trying to make herself look good through someone else whether or not this other person was mafia, so I don't think that's a very great tell.
Your mafia reads seem reasonable to me.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 20:57 Koshi wrote: Here are some things I noticed, and now explain using as little words as possible. Getting noticed by me is pretty good. It means you are doing stuff and can call yourself a participant of this game. If you are not in my list and thought you were doing things you didn't do your things correctly.
Sadly I lost most of my interest after the IRL events of the last 24 hours. I will try to keep playing though.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote: The problem I have with 27ninjabunnies lynch right now is that some of the people on the wagon seem pretty shaky themselves. The_Templar
I find it hard to understand the exact reasoning why he thinks 27ninjabunnies is scum from the roleplay posts. Can I get an "ELI5" version please? No verdict yet.
I was one (of the first) of the voters for NB because I felt that she was trying to look more involved in the game than she was with her fluffy, contentless posts. However, I am still reading through the thread and I see that she has made a few recent posts, so I may change my mind.
As for sicklucker, I have a hard time believing that, as mafia, he could be bold enough to do the weird joyful child + presents thing. I haven't read him yet, though.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 20:57 Koshi wrote: Here are some things I noticed, and now explain using as little words as possible. Getting noticed by me is pretty good. It means you are doing stuff and can call yourself a participant of this game. If you are not in my list and thought you were doing things you didn't do your things correctly.
Ritoky townread for attacking people that think Alakaslam is possible scum. The reason this is towny is because ritoky is lost without his Alakaslam read. And is using this 1 read he has to create more reads. Also his stuff on Lightening is superb.
Kelsier townread for the batsnacks thing. And the rsoultin read.
Templar is paying attention.
Alakaslam keeps slipping that he is a ghost. Probably is.
Damdred actually understands wtf Kelsier was talking about in the post with hts and nb duds. Must be reading the thread.
Holyflare is doing some minor positive things. However, I don’t understand why he protects hts against Kelsier. I don’t understands why he doesn’t push GB after making that observation.
GlowingBear ignored HF when HF called him out. Instead GB asked an incredible dumb question to Damdred. Started the game with drawing attention to him twice. Need to check meta if that is alignment indicative, scum tends to not do that. But meh.
Half the Sky is not reading and thinking, Kelsier was painfully obvious talking about her. Looks like scum being paralyzed by the pressure of replying, and tried to brush the pressure of with the “I know nothing I am from Barcelona” reply. Also, who replies with: “I am also town” at the start of the game. Town shows paranoia early game. Scum doesn’t.
LighteningStrike his list shows that LS is good at knowing who the thread thinks is town. He made a mistake putting OWS on his townlist. FF as well. The mistake is made because he is scum wanting to “contribute” and not only rehearse what is in the thread. Anyway, his townlist was made so that people would like him.
27ninjabunnies is posting horrendous. Please shape up. I can’t even blame people having her as only scumread because her posting is so scummy. Is playing scum 101. People who have experience playing the game would only play this scummy as town not paying attention to their own scumminess. I would still lynch her as a policy lynch. Not acceptable play.
Obiwan might be scum that didn't want to do nothing and then decided to pretend that he was doing something. Sadly for him his pretendcontribution claimed town and now scumObiwan ist just in idgaf doing nothing mode.
Both kita & Vivax going solely after 27nb bores me. KOSHI!! "Templar is paying attention" is an awful way to say someone should be in your list.
Those aren't town reads. If you had read the rest of the post, then you would probably realize that. This is pretty obviously tunneling me at this point.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 21:48 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 21:40 Xatalos wrote:On December 09 2014 21:33 LoneMeow wrote: Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented. I think sicklucker is highly likely town. It'd be very weird for scum to claim a role during early D1 without any kind of reason or strategy for doing so. Especially in the manner that he did (confused / almost accidental). Templar also claimed here: On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.
this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored. Do you? I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is. You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/ And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child... I think that's also more likely a towny claim than a fakeclaim. He did apparently breadcrumb it too, though I couldn't read everything in his posts because they were so long. Right, the claims. Not sure what to make of that, sicklucker's is probably the easier to believe claim due to the confused way it happened and timing. I don't quite see why The_Templar claimed when he did but the breadcrumbs do make it at least somewhat believeable. Not lynch targets for D1 anyway I suppose.
I claimed because I was being dumb and, after including too much fluff in my original posts, I wanted to be noticed. I hadn't seen the post that said "don't claim" until after I posted. However, anyone can claim joyful child, as it literally makes no impact on how they are viewed, role-wise. I could be a mafia pretending to be a joyful child just as easily as a joyful child.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim. By claiming joyful Templar verified this: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote: Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.
Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.
Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in. So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded. 3 confirmed town is ezpz.
I am pretty sure there aren't exactly three joyful children confirmed by the host through presents. That would be silly.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote: Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
Why does my ability to tell a few paragraphs of a story lead you to believe that I am town? Unless there is information within those posts, they are useless, and you should be on the lookout when people make posts like that. Saying "wow, The_Templar is clearly towny today, great story pls more" is not a good read and I believe at least two people did this.
Your other reasonings are not particularly great. HF can do that as either alignment afaik, OWS is weak meta, Damdred is an assumption that only town can play with a strong town player (according to you). 27NB and HTS are female, and it seems like you want to say they're scum but you didn't. What are the good aspects of their posts? You don't have ANYONE on the scum list except SL (which isn't terribly unreasonable).
I see that other people are defending this as your meta, to read into a meta of one game. I don't buy it.
Currently on page 37. I have to leave for a bit, but will be back soonish to finish up.
Currently, the naughty list is Ninjabunnies, GB, and LightningStrike from what I've seen.
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On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions. The amount of people sadly counterbalances this. ;;
On December 09 2014 22:54 LoneMeow wrote: Honestly if I see one more post from LightningStrike with the word "meta" in it my brain is going to explode. I fear the same will happen to me.
On December 09 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote: Everybody is allowed and even adviced to completely ignore Kush. There is no use talking to him. We will have to deal with him D2 or D3. This is a dangerous thing to assume. If he actually is scrooge then he probably dies night one.
I'm actually really annoyed. As I said earlier, I believe that Scrooge is vital to this game, as he is the primary target of four different roles. He is almost certainly in this game, even if it's not kush. Unfortunately, if Marley is in this game we are probably sunk if Kush is, in fact, Scrooge.
At the same time, if Scrooge dies, we have three useless town roles that could claim.
On December 09 2014 23:29 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, why Templar "paying attention" is something so relevant to you? Why is this so important to you?
On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:Holy Moses. I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata. Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's? Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP: Show nested quote +On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:Setup Information All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role. It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0. Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?
There will almost certainly not be 6 mass murderers. MM is a mafia role, and there can only be as many MMs as mafia. Plus, the game is presumably balanced, so if there are 6 MMs, there is enough town power to compensate. There was a scrooge claim because someone said there should be a scrooge claim.
On December 10 2014 00:21 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT.
Bye. So, you're claiming a role. Great. Why?
*yawn, yawn, skip through a bunch of useless posts around page 43*
On December 10 2014 02:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm laughing so hard right now. Like so hard. I love the votes on me, I really do. Im doing a bit of rereading, but I won't br able to make a huge post until after my final today.
That being said, I noticed some things after I left for my date (which went amazing btw. I got serenaded. So fucking hot)
So people were curious as to why I put 2/3 town who were jumping on the froggy scum thing. That's because I was reading then town for posts they said that werent in regards to froggy at all. The reason I put froggy as iffy was because, 1. I said his post wasnt alignment indicative, but that doesnt mean I have a read on him. He hadnt said anything else up to the point I posted my reads, so I put him as iffy for not having a read.
Im only up to page 21, so I have a long way to go, but Ill try and read through quick and posts thoughts along the way. If you have questions for me Ill be more than happy to answer.
Keep in mind you are lynching a town here. Im hoping to be able to redeem myself.
To victory boys and girls! looks like a mafia post, although this may be my intentionally-not-christmas-color tinted glasses. I don't think so. It has the same tone as the post you made before there were 9 votes on you.
On December 10 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:10 Tubesock wrote:On December 10 2014 02:04 Vivax wrote: Why do you scumlist froggy, tube? Crap, I didn't. I think he's null. Shit, I totally meant I scum 27NB for her posts that were wishy washy on Froggy but later scum lists him and continues talking about her boobs being too big for bras. I should have put quotations. Sorry, It's 3 am here and I'm fading. But can't sleep cause this stupid game is consuming me. On December 10 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote: Well tube do you believe template role claim? No, I am discarding his Santa "claim" and I think I saw another but I didn't give it any credence. I need to go back and reread that. I don't think he ever made a Santa claim at all... He did make a joy claim though I put myself into the role of Santa before realizing that I was probably claiming for doing so. I may or may not be Santa.
On December 10 2014 02:26 Damdred wrote: Meh we asked template for a story he delivered I wouldn't lynch a claimed named vt today I believe.
kush did this stunt in the anime mafia game as town as well....so there's that Joyful child isn't a named VT as far as we know. Elf could just as easily be the named VT.
On December 10 2014 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote: 300posts to read after sleeping. Can someone give me the death present please? Give it to me pls ;;
On December 10 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote: Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS: Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification) and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading... .....Becasue it is double speak. Don't policy lynch, lynching lurkers is a form of policy lynching, in a big game a good scum strategy is to lurk and they are a ok lynch? Reading up on the Froggy posts.
On December 10 2014 04:10 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote: Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? On December 09 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote: Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
So what you're saying is policy lynches are terrible but if it all goes sour you want to policy lynch?? On December 09 2014 08:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote: Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
-5 town points for this post, going into the bad boy category tonight ##Unvote TemplarStory shows awesomeness On December 09 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 KelsierSC wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote: Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? i like how you can already split your town and tentative town Cause i'm comfortable puttinng hf rit and templar into a pile, slam is slam so i'm not comfortable putting him with my other new town toys yet. Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote: Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? Curious on your thought process here hun. What did Froggy do, or not do, to be put into your scum pile? Cause he made a pretty bad post that boiled down to, lets agree lynching lurkers is a bad thing but i'd be ok with lynching lurkers. Ok, perhaps I should explain things a little more simply. My statement can be broken down as follows 1. ANY policy (including lurker lynching) is bad because it stops people from scumhunting;2. Lurking is still a valid criteria to lynch on, however it is just one of many criteria and should be given its appropriate weight; 3. It's DAY1, therefore we are not going to have much evidence/criteria to go on. Furthermore, this is a relatively large game. As such its an easy scum tactic to lurk whilst town lynches someone who is involved in the thread on very poor evidence (again because this is the nature of day 1 lynches), therefore lurking is a decent criteria to justify a lynch at this stage, just not one that warrants a policy. I shall read rest of the thread now... So, I got from this that scum hunting is important, but that day 1 lynches are based on poor evidence and therefore shouldn't be done because scum will be lurking, HOWEVER lynching possible lurking scum completely prevents scum hunting. Wahaaaaaat?
However, I am OK with his read on me, despite it being one of the most negative ones in the thread. This is, of course, the only reasonable thing I have seen. It has, so far, taken him 6 hours to not come up with a read. He said he was reading through the thread and didn't really give any evidence of this.
Adding to naughty list for now.
On December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +low content game they said
how wrong they were
3~4 filter max they said
already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1
total ragnorak they said
do u want to build a snowman? I'm disappointed by how much everyone is spamming too. It's like me on other areas of this site.
My mother is leaning over my shoulder and asking why I'm spending so much time on one post. Speeding through thread...
On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote: So i need to sleep and conserve posts.
I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.
I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.
its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags. I must have missed it, who said your posts were fluffy? I think they are pretty short but on-topic. You really need to slow down your posting though, you're going to reach the limit soon. And yes, a lot of your posts are one-liners. Some are two lines.
On December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote: Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS: Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification) and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading... Also, how jerky is this? I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me. What is this shit? Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you. ? I do this too. Just because you say he's town doesn't mean he has to recuperate. Stop expecting gifts from people. More coal in your stocking.
On December 10 2014 10:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay Templar I forgot to answer your questions and I will answer now Within those stories there were reads, also possible questions for other players. Also you had some good questions trying to lead a discussion in this game for a bit so that why I town read you. Damdred is more of a meta reason why I think he is town because his posting is pretty similar how was in Student Mafia which I played with him. OWS again meta reasons that I think he town since his play seemed to mimic his town play on Russia Today game for his Day 1 stuff. I also changed my views on sicklucker after learning his shenanigans was the present claim I concluded that he is in fact his normal self for town which have mix of wacky shenanigans to force early town reads and some non sense it just how he is. Your answer on why you considered my posts towny. Other people seem to think I was restating a lot in the thread and didn't have original content. What parts of my posts do you think were thought-provoking?
Damdred/OWS: I know you seem to like to compare people to how they were in a recent game you played, but I don't consider this sufficient evidence. One game, unless it is the entirety of one's play or it's very distinctive (see S1CKLuCk3R), could, from my experience, be outdated evidence or an outlier unless it is in line with other games.
On December 10 2014 10:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 10:04 rsoultin wrote: Yes, yes, see his post count. See how he plays. LS is clearly new too. @27NB The sarcasm is real in this one Lol, 2000 plus posts. Yeah not new. Okay... So yeah, kita... GG Where is the relevance in the LS read ? Or where you said that why isn't FF reading Tube and LS the same, when they aren't both new? I have 34,000 posts. Would you like to guess how many games of mafia I've played on TL?
On December 10 2014 10:53 GlowingBear wrote: Cool, townslam.
I think this game is going to be easy. How has his play differed from when you read him scum?
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On December 10 2014 11:34 LightningStrike wrote: @Templar mainly your reads on KSC because I would of policy lynch him for the shit he pulled in the Campus Mafia game when he counter claimed me on Cop and turns out he/OWs who replaced him after Day 2 or 3 was Town but now that he seems lurkier than his town game I played with him on Campus Mafia I do have a concern he possibly could be scum but I don't have enough evidence to confirm if he's scum or not. My stuff on sicklucker was from recent games no worries on that part of him Templar. Damdred was trying to get a Discussion going along with HF and I see that as towny because scum normally don't try to get a Discussion going and he led it towards town side, OWS case was similar to his Russia Today game which was only ended a week ago I think but it recent enough to not raise my alarm just yet unless there is something. The reason I didn't pull the trigger on KSC because I had little reads on him until your post about him in one of your many stories. I only referred to him initially by saying he wasn't a bad person and that I had no actual evidence besides the great Gods of RNG. Unless I'm reading this run-on wall of a post incorrectly, I do not think you can really gather enough evidence from my early-game posts to make a conclusion like that.
On December 10 2014 11:35 LightningStrike wrote: Also @Templar I guessing you played like 100 TL Mafia games knowing you from ABL and you guys there talking about TL Mafia there in the past.
This is my 5th game.
I'm going to bed soon. I will be back probably at 6 or so hours before deadline, and I will be there for about half of that.
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I looked at X4t4105 and his reasons for reading ninjabunnies scum are completely different than his reasons for reading her town. I don't believe he ever clarifies why his original reasoning was no longer as valid.
Short opinion of liancourt's filter: extremely annoying to read. Lots of fluff. I like his more "serious" posts though and his reads seem fine too. Why is he so scummy?
This is pretty much his only useful post that I can see....
On December 10 2014 08:50 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:38 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote:On December 10 2014 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 10 2014 08:27 liancourt wrote:On December 10 2014 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 10 2014 07:57 liancourt wrote:On December 10 2014 07:51 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +low content game they said
how wrong they were
3~4 filter max they said
already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1
total ragnorak they said
do u want to build a snowman? + Show Spoiler +I assume you're still going for the low-hanging-fruit play but why spoilers? oh is that what it looks like? low hanging fruit meta? + Show Spoiler + am i playing that meta right now though? How am I supposed to know? Sicklucker go suck an egg. because u are playing the game do i look like i'm playing the low hanging fruit meta? a simple yes or no would suffice Yes until you ninja'd me saying your spoiler posts are fluff. No, I do not think you are playing your LHF meta but I did. i wouldnt say they are fluff, they were good bait for ppl like LS and HTS who thought i was scummy for it. Calling my spoiler posts annoying/odd doesn't mean they're scummy, but they took it that way then back tracked when i called them out about it. i'm surprised you even thoought it was scummy knowing the fact that I play like this early in the game. This isn't even a particular meta. It's just me fooling around the first 24 hrs of day 1 trolling ppl. And by observation only the new ppl fell for it while others just ignored it. Howeverm you are not new. You've played with me before and you shouldn't think this as scummy play and yet you say you did think it was scummy until I pointed it out it was all troll/joke. I think it was pretty obvious all the spoiler posts were joke posts and yet you stumble upon it and think it was scummy. Did I find another scum ...and 90% of it is a defensive post. In fact, the only part of his post that isn't defensive is accusing FF of being mafia because of how he interacts with him.
There's something else interesting about liancourtyboy that I want to look at, but I have to leave again.
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On December 11 2014 02:26 Xatalos wrote: Short comment on phone. Vivax, where did I townread bunnies? Where? I only thought that she *might* be a bad lynch when there was no resistance and HTS looked worse. Then HTS looked better and bunnies looked worse in comparison. What's not to understand No, you said that bunnies might be town and definitely wasn't a good lynch.
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Ninjabunnies, what is your Naughty/Nice list right now?
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On December 11 2014 06:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 06:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Is that really a soft too?
Is there a role you didn't softclaim? MY VIDEO WASNT A FUCKING SOFT QUIT READING INTO THINGS THAT ARENT EVEN FUCKING THERE. seriously This is why you don't POST OFF-TOPIC all game. Seriously.
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