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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 12 2014 07:52 GMT
#1841
Na your getting roleblocked 100% if your town, no if ands or butts. So tell us what present you have or im voting you. Its the most townie thing you can do right now. Giving us the option to counter claim makes me see you as more town. Your present doesint matter. What matters is if theres a roleblocker and you will be able to use it. I see both presents as equally important anyway.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 12 2014 07:55 GMT
#1842
[image loading]

good night
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 12 2014 08:06 GMT
#1843
The beauty of mafia is recognizing how little I understand even myself, let alone others.

And how quickly folks here can make things pax- I am fully assauged and had no clue anyone in the industry hated it. That is deeply unfortunate but reminds so-

There is an old adage that reads "Be gone; get lynched". It is something that makes perfect sense so I will see what I can do to defense myself.

So.

I can be right and still be town. I can't actually think of a non-newbie game 27NB has been in that I haven't also been in, (which means nothing by itself actually lol- if I didn't play in it I probably wouldn't know if she did. I have been in a ton of games with her though; so I desuce she hasn't been in many I wasn't also in) But I have a lot to go on.

She was town, I did sheep Holyflare but then I lost confidence in his read over mine- especially as he was absent.

I still say lynch Kelsier. She agreed and Lightningstrike also.

And it is amazing thinking about this, we have too much similarity- I cannot be arsed to reread a post before putting it up, so I fall prey to double/lost meaning

This was happening to you and stronger than I have seen it happen to others; this is where the "pupil of chupazi" statement comes from. I have found that you can easily be somewhat effective without spending a year and a day on each post by intentionally encrypting your meaning in vagueness and semi-roleplay, along with random references that lead nowhere coupled with ones that are obscure, but appropriate.

This creates an enigma, so that people are no longer thinking they understood you when they didn't

Like

Oh yeah but you are probably not going to be quite the way I am XD

Basically I also really
REALLY

like jokes. And am easily offended by certain, specific, varied things :/

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the whole thing about phase change actually comes from trying to start dating an ardent Chemtrail truther. She had this video ready where the vortices from an Airbus condensed the humidity around them- so this "proved it wasn't from the engines and is activated by the pilot, who forgot to turn them off". This helped me realize, as smart attractive etc as she was, for me it would just be torture being in a relationship with her so her writing me off over that was for the best. But it was lol and reminded me of fighters at Miramar.

Those vortices can pull it off at 110 knots or less, it is some landing video that her argument came from. Like I say, obscure and randomized references...

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 12 2014 10:22 GMT
#1844
Counting from the beginning again

KelsierSC (3): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock
liancourt (1): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock
Tubesock (3): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast
ritoky (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
froggynoddy (1): Oatsmaster

Currently KelsierSC is set to be lynched. Ages until deadline.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 12:24 GMT
#1845
Slam is town.
Holyflare is mafia.

Ritoky's reason could be legit. I admit I tunnelled a bit after the present thing. I can, although with some reluctance, see his actions coming from a town perspective. More from a mafia perspective, but... I'll have to reevaluate his play in this game.

I want to lynch Holyflare today.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 12:25 GMT
#1846
Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog.
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 12 2014 12:42 GMT
#1847
On December 12 2014 21:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam is town.
Holyflare is mafia.

Ritoky's reason could be legit. I admit I tunnelled a bit after the present thing. I can, although with some reluctance, see his actions coming from a town perspective. More from a mafia perspective, but... I'll have to reevaluate his play in this game.

I want to lynch Holyflare today.


Why HF?

And no, don't think so. Ritoky claiming so we know how he died is BS. It would just increase the possibilities from mafia/vig to mafia/vig/present, making things more difficult to decipher, not easier. Claiming before use of the power renders the power useless because now mafia has a sure thing to disable/take out over a guess. It just doesn't make sense, and while town cannot make sense, his refusal to see that is ridiculous.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 13:02 GMT
#1848
On December 12 2014 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 21:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam is town.
Holyflare is mafia.

Ritoky's reason could be legit. I admit I tunnelled a bit after the present thing. I can, although with some reluctance, see his actions coming from a town perspective. More from a mafia perspective, but... I'll have to reevaluate his play in this game.

I want to lynch Holyflare today.


Why HF?

And no, don't think so. Ritoky claiming so we know how he died is BS. It would just increase the possibilities from mafia/vig to mafia/vig/present, making things more difficult to decipher, not easier. Claiming before use of the power renders the power useless because now mafia has a sure thing to disable/take out over a guess. It just doesn't make sense, and while town cannot make sense, his refusal to see that is ridiculous.


Yeah, that's a point. I agree with you.

The problem is: HF is giving me scum vibes and although I know he busses a lot, I find hard to believe that they would both make a case against each other.
I'm adorable.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#1849
On December 12 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog.

sounds appealing.

Er mainly its for the waffle around the policy lynch, not policy lynch shit that wasnt waffle but shouldve been waffle.
And the templar read.
Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads;
Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with)
Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active).

This is a super fluffy read that doesnt even show anything. Its super generalized and can be used for like half the players in the game. So its a contrived read that he did because he didnt feel comfortable doing something about nb and preferred to stay out of the spotlight.

He scum yo.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 12 2014 13:06 GMT
#1850
On December 12 2014 22:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
On December 12 2014 21:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam is town.
Holyflare is mafia.

Ritoky's reason could be legit. I admit I tunnelled a bit after the present thing. I can, although with some reluctance, see his actions coming from a town perspective. More from a mafia perspective, but... I'll have to reevaluate his play in this game.

I want to lynch Holyflare today.


Why HF?

And no, don't think so. Ritoky claiming so we know how he died is BS. It would just increase the possibilities from mafia/vig to mafia/vig/present, making things more difficult to decipher, not easier. Claiming before use of the power renders the power useless because now mafia has a sure thing to disable/take out over a guess. It just doesn't make sense, and while town cannot make sense, his refusal to see that is ridiculous.


Yeah, that's a point. I agree with you.

The problem is: HF is giving me scum vibes and although I know he busses a lot, I find hard to believe that they would both make a case against each other.


I agree, so why is HF "giving you scum vibes".

I will take evidence over feelings every time, so what is it that makes you think HF is scum?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 13:10 GMT
#1851
I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him.

His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 13:12 GMT
#1852
On December 12 2014 22:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog.

sounds appealing.

Er mainly its for the waffle around the policy lynch, not policy lynch shit that wasnt waffle but shouldve been waffle.
And the templar read.
Show nested quote +
Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads;
Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with)
Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active).

This is a super fluffy read that doesnt even show anything. Its super generalized and can be used for like half the players in the game. So its a contrived read that he did because he didnt feel comfortable doing something about nb and preferred to stay out of the spotlight.

He scum yo.


Frogs entrance is horrible, but I'm okay with this read on Templar. I don't see it like too fluffy.
I'm adorable.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:13 GMT
#1853
On December 12 2014 22:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him.

His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me.

explain pls.
Im not feeling it.
No gg, No skill.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 13:14 GMT
#1854
On December 12 2014 22:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 22:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him.

His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me.

explain pls.
Im not feeling it.


Ok, give me an hour so I can eat and get to my pc before going to work. I'll bring examples and get deeper in what is making me read HF as scum.
I'm adorable.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 12 2014 13:17 GMT
#1855
Froggy's read on me isn't terrible. It shows a pattern at least.
Slam is town based on what I've heard on him.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:38 GMT
#1856
On December 12 2014 22:17 The_Templar wrote:
Froggy's read on me isn't terrible. It shows a pattern at least.
Slam is town based on what I've heard on him.

a pattern of what?

Its like bad, dunno why you are calling a scumread on you good for no reason.

I really dont like it when people do that.
No gg, No skill.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 12 2014 13:40 GMT
#1857
On December 12 2014 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 22:17 The_Templar wrote:
Froggy's read on me isn't terrible. It shows a pattern at least.
Slam is town based on what I've heard on him.

a pattern of what?

Its like bad, dunno why you are calling a scumread on you good for no reason.

I really dont like it when people do that.

It shows a trend of my posts having less effort as I've become less busy. I think, though, that that's sort of misleading because that doesn't really indicate being scummy.
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froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 12 2014 13:50 GMT
#1858
[Am reading through the thread and responding to what I see - hence disjointed structure]

I don't like the ritocky vote. When the NB wagon was going he was the only one to really try and pressure two other players. This feels town to me (as NB flipped town herself). Declaring he was opening the present is stupid, not scummy (as far as I understand the mechanic of preseent opening.

--------------------------------------------

On December 12 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Who was masoned with kita?

Time to claim.


This has already been answered in the thread. I don't like that you are asking this straight up. I personally think its way too early to role claim. We need to lynch properly and then consider day 3.

--------------------------------------------

The templar is definitely scum. All his posts so far have been sensible yet have given nothing of value. He has not pushed or. Oats would also be a good lynch but would prefer templar.

--------------------------------------------

On December 12 2014 11:05 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.



Holy slip batman!

##Vote: Tubesock







'better still, a satisfied man'
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 12 2014 13:52 GMT
#1859
EBWOP

re Templar: ... or contributed anything original to finding scum. Again seems like town without actually helping town.
'better still, a satisfied man'
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 12 2014 13:53 GMT
#1860
On December 12 2014 22:50 froggynoddy wrote:
[Am reading through the thread and responding to what I see - hence disjointed structure]

I don't like the ritocky vote. When the NB wagon was going he was the only one to really try and pressure two other players. This feels town to me (as NB flipped town herself). Declaring he was opening the present is stupid, not scummy (as far as I understand the mechanic of preseent opening.

--------------------------------------------

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Who was masoned with kita?

Time to claim.


This has already been answered in the thread. I don't like that you are asking this straight up. I personally think its way too early to role claim. We need to lynch properly and then consider day 3.

--------------------------------------------

The templar is definitely scum. All his posts so far have been sensible yet have given nothing of value. He has not pushed or. Oats would also be a good lynch but would prefer templar.

--------------------------------------------

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 11:05 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.



Holy slip batman!

##Vote: Tubesock

What do you think about Tubesock's recent play concerning me?
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