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TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 9
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HF us maya so is foggy so focus. | ||
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Wowowowowowooww | ||
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HF ISMAFIA THATS ALL LYBCH HIM | ||
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oats us nukll | ||
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I just threw up. I may breed a hospital In drinking Gatorade | ||
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Se your guys tonirrurv | ||
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My head. It hurts | ||
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Mafia is unlikely to give presents to town + Show Spoiler [Why?] + They have 66% chance of giving a important power to town. That said, if a mafia holds a present, he is most likely to give it to a partner and not opening it until they can see if the present town holds is the death one. Town, in the other hand, will give it to anyone day1 and the townie will most likely open it because they have a very good chance of opening a power present. This means: If damdred opened a present and flipped town, sicklucker is most likely town. If ritoky claims he's got a present and that he is opening it, he's most likely town, because mafia would hold it and give to another partner to see if that was the death present or not. There is no motive for mafia to say they will open it, since that, if they open the death present, they will flip mafia anyway, so ritoky's explanation actually looks fair. That's it guys. Btw, no mass claiming. It was a bad idea of mine. I've just realised mafia will have problems with so many possible powers against them. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462188-iv-titanic-mafia-it-has-been-a-privilege So, really, scumreading me for that is silly. | ||
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On December 14 2014 00:52 froggynoddy wrote: This is obvious. I think my head matches yours... If that was so obvious for you, why didn't you intervene to disrupt the discussion abou SL and ritoky being mafia? If that was so obvious, why didn't you say I'm likely to be town for that, considering I am been scumread a lot? | ||
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On December 14 2014 01:00 rsoultin wrote: Nice recant. Took you long enough. I'm not the first one to say no, that's stupid, just one of the first to scumread you for the mass role claim. You're still ignoring my comment that Mafia is fully capable of fake claiming the opening of a present (and what was Ritoky's main excuse, that it would be dumb to open a present as mafia if it could be the kill present?), claim that he had a KS, then follow through because mafia does have a KS. That said, I'm comfortable waiting to see if he dies tonight, if no one else who was scumreading him Day 1 feels inclined to do the same today because they think he's a stupid (or crafty) town. I'm not ignoring it, I'm considering probability. Mafia can do whatever they want to do. But it is likely that they do that? I don't believe so. He obviously received the present because I sent it to him. Unnecessary to claim it as mafia. Also, I know the setup was open on titanic v, but the thing is that a lot of vts died, the probability of we having a lot of power roles alive is high and if we all claim, we will be able to narrow people and discussion. We will narrow our lunch targets a lot. Anyway, it doesn't matter now because it is a better idea to not claim. Masons are confirmed to each other, aren't they? Because if they are, we will have another confirmed town without a power role. Do you understand why claiming masons is okay? | ||
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On December 14 2014 02:19 Alakaslam wrote: If SL is Mass Murderer he would possibly start with the death present. Presents are unknown to holders. It's in the OP. | ||
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I want you to say mafias motivation for things you call me scum for. | ||
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On December 14 2014 03:42 Tubesock wrote: You also use your part 2 to talk about presents when that implicates KILLING DAMDRED??? You are a scapegoat. Tube, sicklucker claims he sent damdred a present Damdred dies and flips town You can assume it was the death present Mafia is unlikely to give present to town day1 Therefore, SL is town | ||
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On December 14 2014 03:45 rsoultin wrote: I've made my case on you multiple times GB. Unlike you I am not under scrutiny. I've explained what I think and why I think it. As for the gut feel that is contributing to it...what have you really done for town? Falsely brought up mass-claiming like that would be helpful. A bunch of jokes. A bunch of partial reads you have to be prodded on. Many promises you fail to carry out. (Your HF case is still unfinished.) Ritoky you were pressuring a little until others started...which, if you're town, why are you pressuring the guy you think is town (cause you're not going to send anything to mafia as town) then flip right back onto HF as soon as others start pressuring Ritoky? There's something wrong about how you're playing, and the scenario with both you and Ritoky as scum works. It is ballsy like Xata said...but assuming that mafia would never play ballsy...lol. If this is the way town thinks, that's the perfect way for mafia to play. Either way its WIFOM as shit. You're so focused on this matter that you fail to properly evaluate what I've brought for holyflare. What do you think of the case? Of the arguments? Why do you think mafia would make a case on one of the strongest players in the game? Do you see ANY mafia motivation behind it? I thought ritoky was mafia. I reevaluated it after putting more thought on it, mostly when I've realised HF is sure to be scum. I'm saying people are town based on gut feelings and probability. I have experience with some players here and I feel comfortable after I see some patterns. Like batsnacks, his townplay is like this. Slam also. It's hard to explain why, because it's more of a feeling than logical reads. I've townread you for the way you evaluated the present thing on sicklucker. I'm still reading you as town. I want you to get out of the tunnel you're currently in. | ||
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Triforce isn't looking good, Templar isn't looking good, Vivax isn't looking good, froggynoddy isn't looking good, HF is scum. That's where I'm at. And I want HF lynched. I'll finish the case on him soon. I know I'm promising things and not fulfilling them, but I've been very busy as I said and I'm not feeling well today to really put effort in that case. I may do it later today, before deadline. | ||
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On December 12 2014 08:06 Palmar wrote: Day 2 Oh wait... that's not snow, that's corpses... LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead It is now Day 2. Night comes in . Good Luck Lonemeow: killed by mafia Kush: visited by Marley Koshi: killed by mafia Kita: killed by mafia (3kp already) Damdred: ? Do you think there are 4 mafia kp dude? Seriously? | ||
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On December 14 2014 04:02 rsoultin wrote: I've already responded to your case GB. Your town reads I'm not arguing with, in a general sense. Your points aren't very strong to me. Sorry. I did consider them. An entrance post and a different read on 27nb than vivax doesn't scream scum to me. I feel like you're mostly basing your HF read on the fact that he wasn't killed first night, and going from there. I'm not the only one with tunnel vision. Yet I am willing to back off you for now to pursue another possible scum, so...-shrugs- We could both be town firing away erroneously, but I still don't think so. I don't understand town giving someone they think is mafia a present, dude...you should want to give it to one of your strongest town reads. You yourself have made this point multiple times. Anyway, Trfel. What do you think of that push since we're probably not going to agree on this. Dude, I gave it to someone I thought was null at the time and that I can't properly read, so, if he was town, he would have a power and if he dies, it doesn't matter because it's less one in the game I can't read. I was going to change the target but I couldn't make it until deadline. That's why my vote is wasted. By the way, STOP VOTING TUBESOCK BECAUSE HE IS TOWN | ||
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