On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote: 2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-
Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.
Ls looks not bad to me, dunno why people are hating on him giving all the meta when loads of other people do the same. Ritoky seems angry for some reason because of this??
Obi still being useless, just because he was useless last game (russian) as town doesn't stop him being able to be useless this game as mafia. It just means he's useless which increases the odds of him being mafia.
Kush.. Meh will resolve itself i think
Gb hasn't really done anything but hasn't done anything outrageously wrong like I'd expect him to as town but his picking on solely koshi and like nothing else is wearing thin and is pretty scummy
I dunno feel kinda iffy about hts after reading the things about kush feels a bit too flippant
New list oats, obi, (gb?) bunnies Mehhhhbe/mehhhhbe not: hts, kush
By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT.
On December 10 2014 00:01 GlowingBear wrote: Whoops text and drive isn't only dangerous, but also makes incomprehensible texts.
"That's why I want to understand why Templar paying attention is something memorable to you"
I guess I could have spend more words on The Templar. He was the first to combine some thread actions into one post. He didn't do anything that made me frown later on so I didn't revisit him and didn't add any more words behind his name.
I don't understand why you are still spending your time on this. Something about me putting Templar on my list because people not on my list look bad? I don't want Templar to look bad because I am his scumbuddy? Dafuq. Really. Dafuq.
Templar obviously looks okish in my eyes. Not lynchable D1.
On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote: Holy Moses.
I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata.
Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's?
Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:
On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Setup Information
All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role.
It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.
Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?
Going to start with the easiest: Palmar didn't rng his set-up. He made a set-up based on the amount of people playing this game. He choose how many of each powerrole exist in this game, but this information is not known to the players. This is a normal game, don't expect crazy things.
About Sky & 27nb: From what I can see 27nb is playing pretty scummy. You can read HF/Vivax/Kita their reasoning to get an idea why. I am conflicted about 27nb because it seems a bit too scummy to be scum. But Vivax rightfully points out that if it smells like scum & talks like scum, it could very well be scum.
Sky her posting style is confusing like hell. It might be because she is new to the game. She starts out calling 27nb "also town" which is not smart to do. But then after reading the thread she agrees with HF that 27nb looks scummy. But then she somewhat reproduces 27nb vision on froggy (I read this somewhere) but still calls 27nb scum:
On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote: So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?
Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.
What do you make of the froggy post and vivax?
Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now.
Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I
Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way.
And then she ends with calling Vivax null. While I found Vivax his suspicion on 27nb easier to read and more convincing than Holyflare his suspicion on 27nb.
It just looks messy. I don't know if she is scum though. Might just have had a bad start like she claims now in her newest post.
He is one of my early scumreads and you simply don't want to lynch him because he is paying attention. I want to understand better why you think he is paying attention and how that's so memorable to you. It's simply as that. You're making a whole problem that I'm asking you a simple question.
It's pretty clear why I'm focusing this. It's because if he flips red at any time of the game I'll probably go against you. You really don't understand my reasoning here? You really think that calling him "memorable" because he is "paying attention" is reasonable? Like, lol.
You're just saying that he condensed the thread in one post. So he isn't lynchable because he has the power of summarizing things. And you call this "memorable"?
On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote: one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me.
On the topic of policy votes, Trfel has yet to post D1. In fact his only post in his filter is his /in post.
thank you for pointing this out, I don't know what to make of it but the only option we have now is lynch gb
On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote: Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about: Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town) GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought. Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me.
I actually laughed out loud because this was such a funny suspicion :D Note that there's a post limit here so I need to reduce spam/fluff so that I won't hit the post limit long before deadline. Hint: it usually becomes clear if I'm scum or not around D2-D3. Not really worth using more posts on this topic now though.
On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote: Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum
Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point.
On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role.
I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon.
Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.
Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.
The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.
The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold). I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)
On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote: Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about: Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town) GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought. Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me.
I actually laughed out loud because this was such a funny suspicion :D Note that there's a post limit here so I need to reduce spam/fluff so that I won't hit the post limit long before deadline. Hint: it usually becomes clear if I'm scum or not around D2-D3. Not really worth using more posts on this topic now though.
On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote: Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum
Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point.
On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role.
I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon.
Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.
Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.
The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.
The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold). I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)
What are you on about GB I didn't even bring up arnold. I already explained that the game i refernced was titanic mafia the one hour game. Also your showing of a game that is against what i'm saying is not correct in the fact that the game had 0 lurkers after I subbed into the game, and bfeore i subbed in you had a light scum read on Elvis and then it went away once I started posting.
So yea i'm not lying at all, and you still aren't doing anything except trying to paint things as scummy that aren't so.
You can start telling what things I'm painting as scum and why they aren't scummy.
I'm saying that the only game I went after high profile players was on Arnies Got a Gun, in which I pushed Rayn early on. I also did it as town, so it's not alignment indicative for me. That's why I'm bringing Arnie up.
On December 10 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote: @ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people.
oh i guess kita did, missed that; doesn't change that i think the reads are crap lol.
Maybe you could add to your case that FF responding to kitaman in the way he did is not consistent with his "idgaf" attitude toward others. If FF doesn't have strong reads, wouldn't it be more consistent of him to just say "fuck off" rather than spending so much time writing weak reads?
On December 10 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: And seeing as I'm being completely ignored at the moment (Seriously what's the point of me defending myself if no one is even going to interact with me?)
I'll leave you with a video of my college choir singing Christmas Music. This is us singing Carol of the Bells
Are you the girl in red?
I'm gonna read what you've post because I feel sorry for you
On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote: Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum.
On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game.
On December 09 2014 17:46 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah LS is scummy as heck
It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?
SILENCE EVERYBODY, THIS POST IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT.
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