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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 03:32 GMT
#1486
This will likely be my 1 night post.

Rit I think you are wrong on HF. There wasn't much new to discuss about NB and lots of people were talking about it and to her. I was one of them. I pointed out the "iffy" and "needs to be looked into" discrepancy but I'm certain others saw it. But she didn't seem to have 1 town post all day.

If you think his behavior is scummy then push every NB voter.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 04:41 GMT
#1494
When your case is so strong that a RP claim without a counter claim doesn't save your target, how much more effort do you need? There were 2 votes in the last two hours. Both jumping on NB.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 22:55 GMT
#1584
On December 12 2014 05:47 ritoky wrote:
to whomever gave me this present, gonna open it. yolo, wish me luck.


Ritoky my 3rd 100% Nice. Too bad his "present" kills. This isn't that kind of present. Another Nice dies but it wont be FecalFeast, LightningStrike, nor I. We are too important for the Naughty Lynch.

GlowingBear bolds Damdred's meta lie, then sights his previous Arnold role and again sights previous game "Arnie's Got A Gun?". Sicklucker, the naughty friend later reveals he thinks he knows this Arnold.

Both GlowingBear and Sicklucker and NOW The_Templar appear!! Three Naughties and two lurking in the shadows.

Kushm4ster needs to Go West in his Holiday Lear. Somehow won't.

ALPA protects me ssson.

+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:


People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush



[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum[/QUOTE]

Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point.

On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role.

I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon.

Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.

The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.[/QUOTE]

[quote]The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold).
I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)[/QUOTE]
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 22:55 GMT
#1585
I will clean up the quote in the spoiler later.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 00:05 GMT
#1633
On December 12 2014 08:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who shoots Damdred/LM over Vivax/Holyflare?


Mafia think:

Damdred
      1. Calls The_Templar out on RNG but scums we should not follow. I don't know how to check the post ID but the numbers seems to work. Lands KeslierSC. Yes, follow this naughty train.
       2. Challanges GrowingBear. GrowingBear swipes him away with meta attacks. The scum are ok with this.
       3. You believe that he wouldn't NK/lynch Sicklucker or KelsierSC?? Easy to scum, but very few claimed to naughty.

LoneMeow
      1. Would lynch Sicklucker.
      2. Challenges The_Templar.
      3. I've seen 3 posts that suggested we should have bailed from the wagon. One by someone who is in a iron bird above, another who was attacked and a weak off hours wagon developed, and LoneMeow who was elavating.

Vivax and Holy Flare - They didn't start the wagon, but naughty sexy play SCAMFUSED and it took very little steering to help them lead the way and mafia was able to stand back. They did the work and had the muscle. Vivax with a little steerage introduced more scamfusion. Scum is afraid to Nice Holy Flare not for his current game actions but his reputation. SCUM.

There are only 2 Nice in this game. There is no elevator, we need to STEP THE FUCK UP.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 00:06 GMT
#1634
On December 12 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote:


If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam.


Fucking SCUM. READ HIS POSTS.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 00:18 GMT
#1640
On December 12 2014 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:20 ritoky wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:12 ritoky wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm gonna read this thread now. And I'm going to hammer mafai.

Btw, lynch ritoky. I gave him the present. But he claimed that he got the present at night, not caring for being roleblocked. Like, lol.


????? I got it at the change of phase, and claimed when I decided I was gonna open it????

what are you smoking? you should know that presents change hands at the end of day phase, it is both in the rules and i confirmed it with the mod lol.


The ability you earn can be roleblocked. I just thought you could use it night one instead of using it night 2.

It doesn't matter anyway, you just revealed to mafia that you have a role now, which makes no sense for a townie.


and opening something unknown that has a 1 in 3 chance to kill you (esp when you have a crap ton of kp) doesn't make much sense as mafia. i can wifom too broski



It's not WIFOM, rit. It's just looking through perspectives.
I can't understand the psychology of a townie who decides to claim he is going to open the present he received. You don't die night one, then BAM! You obviously got a skill and will be killed/roleblocked night2 if you're town.

I can never see town doing that.


On December 12 2014 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
Shit this is horrible I can confirm I sent dandred a present and thats probably why hes dead..


On December 12 2014 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T


Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious.


Naughty boys. Still reading Sicklucker Nice?

On December 10 2014 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Lian, SL is town. Let him alone.



Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 00:46 GMT
#1650
On December 12 2014 09:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:11 Trfel wrote:
I still don't see very much reason to lynch Fecalfeast. Yes, his play hasn't been amazing yet, and I disagree with many of his reads, but I can still see where he is coming from. I would rather give him some more time before looking back at that lynch.


Did you read what lonemeow/kita/me wrote about him?

Yes, I have. I have also filter read his posts multiple times.

If you would like, I can elaborate, but unfortunately I will be really busy for a bit. In summary, his play is mostly fluff, but that doesn't incriminate someone (see Alakaslam, batsnacks, for example). And in the remaining posts, while I disagree, I see little reason to believe that those are his honest opinions after searching for scum.


You are wrong about Alakaslam this game. His posts are pretty short, except for the first several. Those he was fishing for information. Fishing for people who would put in the effort. He spent time on templar and when templar stopped giving him what Slam wanted he moved on. He wanted to FITE. Fecal tried but was unable to interpret anything. GlowingBear also tried and dropped some meta read on him (understandable) and Slam deemed him worthless. The conversation would only add to confusion. It would not have been finding scum, channelling Bamcis or using the eyes of Chupazi. None of the things Slam wants.

Find another person who was less wavering in Ninjabunnies lynch than Alakaslam. I think his first post on her was to indicate he was suspicious. It was early in the wagon. Then later he said:

On December 11 2014 00:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:
So yeah.
Please spend time talking about 27nb.
Look at her filter. Look at what she says make sense. Convince me she is town.

Even if you don't believe it yourself. Can somebody make a towncase on her?

She certainly did not mind posting and drawing attention

Hello

But I would have thought HF knew what he was doing. I have rescinded that.



Here, Koshi is trying for a read from anyone thinking Ninja was Nice. His response and reasoning is "She didn't mind posting and drawing attention." Certainly town, and turns out he was right.

Then "HELLO" asking the rest of us why are we disgarding this information. Other people brought it up. One was the target of a wagon, and another was night killed. If you won't put in the effort to find out who I am talking about then you are not worth any Naughty hunters. The rest are scum.

He then scum reads HF. This is significant. He is wrong, HF is merely scum as are the 18 of us nice still alive. Slam is the ONLY person who refused the naughty case on Ninja by post AND vote. He was the ONLY person 100% right.

Go back, research yourself. Then tell me WHY I am wrong.

I am scum until Alakaslam comes and confirms.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 00:59 GMT
#1662
On December 12 2014 09:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 09:18 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:20 ritoky wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:12 ritoky wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm gonna read this thread now. And I'm going to hammer mafai.

Btw, lynch ritoky. I gave him the present. But he claimed that he got the present at night, not caring for being roleblocked. Like, lol.


????? I got it at the change of phase, and claimed when I decided I was gonna open it????

what are you smoking? you should know that presents change hands at the end of day phase, it is both in the rules and i confirmed it with the mod lol.


The ability you earn can be roleblocked. I just thought you could use it night one instead of using it night 2.

It doesn't matter anyway, you just revealed to mafia that you have a role now, which makes no sense for a townie.


and opening something unknown that has a 1 in 3 chance to kill you (esp when you have a crap ton of kp) doesn't make much sense as mafia. i can wifom too broski



It's not WIFOM, rit. It's just looking through perspectives.
I can't understand the psychology of a townie who decides to claim he is going to open the present he received. You don't die night one, then BAM! You obviously got a skill and will be killed/roleblocked night2 if you're town.

I can never see town doing that.


On December 12 2014 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
Shit this is horrible I can confirm I sent dandred a present and thats probably why hes dead..


On December 12 2014 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T


Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious.


Naughty boys. Still reading Sicklucker Nice?

On December 10 2014 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Lian, SL is town. Let him alone.





Decipher your suspicion here, please


Absolutely! Finally, someone who sees this as a credible threat. Because you are naughty.

GlowingBear you DEFEND Sicklucker with "Lian, SL is town. Let him alone." Yet, you are using plays on schemes and roles to discredit Ritoky and gain confusion. Tell me how Sicklucker is so Nice, you tell Lian to lay off. You defend Sicklucker and not just once but use what he's doing to go after a CONFIRMED Nice (RIP Damdred). Tell me why and how Sicklucker is NICE.

##Vote: GlowingBear


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 01:31 GMT
#1690
On December 12 2014 09:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok I see tube sock now

Tube mah man you see not with the eyes of Chupazi to know that I am the king of the hitleric uncanny knowledge; for though I cannot see scum, indeed the town is illuminated to me as each alignment. Indeed it is slower as town but it develops like film


If you are not Alakaslam, do not bother to read this, you can not comprehend it. You are the savage down below.

On December 09 2014 08:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Better than food and alcohol is speed (not te drug)

Exceeding 200 MPH and messing with gravity, making dirt and rubber play nice and creating clouds from thin air off your wingtips via speed and phase change causing the ignorant to rail about conspiracies

Yes


It is merely happenstance this post spoke to me. I read this and immediately labelled you a Gucci Pilot. Worthless, talentless and garbage. Later you scummed me, Rsoultin or perhaps Ritoky who really cares, and LightningStrike. You told him, you ASKED him to step up, to elevate or he will never understand. You scummed him but Niced him. There is a difference. I see that. It's not nulltown, null, or iffy. There is only Nice, Naughty and Scum. Nothing else. I knew then I was the savage in the trees looking at the iron bird in the sky. I went back and filter dove you. I LOVE speed, I know it. 200 MPH??? That my friend is slow, it's rare you see a bird with "phase changes" that only go 200MPH. I know of none that can and I am Proffessional. I then saw the dirt and rubber. Ah, it is not asphalt and rubber, it is merely 200 which may seem fast.

I thought I could play your game. Dropped a Go West reference, a Lear reference, an ALPA reference. If you don't know these it tells me you are not Professional, but you are amateur but we are NICE.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 01:37 GMT
#1696
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 02:41 GMT
#1751
On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:
Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully.

I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though...

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.

5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote


Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon.

4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No.

Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM????



Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 02:51 GMT
#1757
On December 12 2014 11:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:
Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully.

I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though...

On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.

5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote


I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game...



Oooh, so so beautiful. Now we have something. NOW you decide to distance yourself from KelsierSC?? What about your ##Vote: Tubesock???? And Templar JUST came to your rescue to add pressure. Please don't go.

Ooh, now tell me naughty one, why is KelsierSC naughty??? Bring yourself closer, or separate yourself. Say something that isn't unproveable claim bullshit and I'll LOVE LOVE to respond. Prove I'm NAUGHTY.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 03:27 GMT
#1790
On December 12 2014 11:42 The_Templar wrote:

Sassy. Answer the damn question.


In your first three naughty or nice lists. Tell me HOW you changed the reads. I'll even buy the bullshit "RNG" landing on your buddy there. He responds with "Oh oh make it Christmassy", now you can notClaim Santa write a beautiful cheerful and fluffy post. I mean you WERE just humoring KeslierSC, right? This I can forgive, as you do need to push the thread. Fish for information.

What does KelsierSC do...Hmmm. He says "WOW beautiful post!!! 100% TOWN MAN IDGAF!" Tell me as NICE that this response is Nice? Why why oh why oh why? Slam read you Naughty. He likely new it immediately. how much attention did he give you? Not much. You sold out your pretty little naughty buddy too. He saw you Null after a big "Oooh, I'm totally going to stay ##Vote: KelsierSC till he PROVES me Nice."

Your ##Vote: KelsierSC sure lasted a longtime. He even fished for Scrooge for you for a convenient short term.

And yet, if the lazy don't check the time stamp when KelsierSC rescinded his "trap" and cmpare it to when Templar posts another long beautiful naughty or nice list and funnily enough lists KelsierSC as 1 of the 3 longtime Nice then Naughty really deserves to win.

Defend this. Tell the NICE I'm wrong.

Good luck on your next test. It is FINALS season you know.


And for you people not reading my last several posts. You better start. Focus on what matters. All this, "well so and so was this in a game and so that is my bullshit stupid wasteful read." You make it easy to lynch Ninjabunnies. If you don't understand what I say here, you are not putting in any effort. Don't be lazy. Meta reads are only barely useful when you have NOTHING IN THE CURRENT GAME.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 03:54 GMT
#1804
To All of you who are Actually Nice: We lost 6 people.

Clearly our D1 strategy is not working.

I'm putting in effort to CHANGE MY PLAY.

Filter Dive yourself. Tell me you don't think you are scummy??? I saw Alakaslam read me scum. I saw a couple others say I'm worthless. I Filter dove myself and holy hell, I sure made things easy. D1 Tubesock is SCUMMY SCUM SCUM. I would have lynched myself.

Now, continue your debate on scummy defenses and not reevaluate your focus on what actually matters.

If you think talking to someone who is trying to add in points that are listed in the scummy side of play in the freaking TL Mafia guide (meta reading, nitpicking, fluff, spamming etc) and you allow that to base your decisions, Nice already lost. Lynch me now so I don't have to wait around till mafia NK's me.

D1 consisted of almost nothing but meta reads and I feels. SHOCKING a Nice died. Let's focus on behavior.

Don't agree, you better wagon the fuck out of me.

Too lazy to READ for my votes??? Ok, I'll make it easy.

##Vote: The_Templar
##Vote: Sicklucker
##Vote: GlowingBear
##Vote: KelsierSC


When my 5th show's you'll know. I already mentioned by name these 4. My last night post had the top three. Kelsier I have said was Scum for a bit. I even asked GlowingBear about it. He didn't respond to me. Huh.

Want to talk about someone not on this list? Or if I fucking care if there is 5 or 6 or 19 Mafia?? Who the fuck cares??

Step up.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 04:14 GMT
#1812
On December 12 2014 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, if I am wrong I will not apologize for calling you an idiot.

You should be flattered that I'm not dismissing you as one, actually.


Take notes people.

rsoultin, you know if you are town. Say there are 3 people in this hypothetical game. Fred, you and Velma. Fred comes at you with "well you claimed this our last game or you did this or that." and since there are 3 people left it's 2 towns versus 1 mafia. Why would you respond? He has NOTHING. If he did, you'd be cased. If you think you need to respond how should you?

      A) By "You should be flattered"

or

      "Hey, you towned Velma yesterday, Velma AFK'd/did something scummy, why didn't you scum him?"


And Fred responds, "well I really like Velma."

With 3 people in this hypothetical game, do you lynch Fred or Velma?

Why are you giving creedance to people who's sole reads are consistent of "in last game he..." or "well, he soft claimed and last game he did this".

So, do this. Start a few pages in after the pushing of threads. Then disregard EVERY POST with a scummy explanation. See those who have real arguments. Read them. Judge them. See who is right on D1 and everyones relationships and "setups" are stupid obvious.

I will say again, Alakaslam was the ONLY one to be 100% correct. All of us doubted something or were 100% wrong. Then read his posts and find out where he tried to say something. There were like literally only 2 posts he offered up that had any meaning to the lynch. Very easy.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 04:58 GMT
#1817
On December 12 2014 13:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:31 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok I see tube sock now

Tube mah man you see not with the eyes of Chupazi to know that I am the king of the hitleric uncanny knowledge; for though I cannot see scum, indeed the town is illuminated to me as each alignment. Indeed it is slower as town but it develops like film


If you are not Alakaslam, do not bother to read this, you can not comprehend it. You are the savage down below.

On December 09 2014 08:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Better than food and alcohol is speed (not te drug)

Exceeding 200 MPH and messing with gravity, making dirt and rubber play nice and creating clouds from thin air off your wingtips via speed and phase change causing the ignorant to rail about conspiracies

Yes


It is merely happenstance this post spoke to me. I read this and immediately labelled you a Gucci Pilot. Worthless, talentless and garbage. Later you scummed me, Rsoultin or perhaps Ritoky who really cares, and LightningStrike. You told him, you ASKED him to step up, to elevate or he will never understand. You scummed him but Niced him. There is a difference. I see that. It's not nulltown, null, or iffy. There is only Nice, Naughty and Scum. Nothing else. I knew then I was the savage in the trees looking at the iron bird in the sky. I went back and filter dove you. I LOVE speed, I know it. 200 MPH??? That my friend is slow, it's rare you see a bird with "phase changes" that only go 200MPH. I know of none that can and I am Proffessional. I then saw the dirt and rubber. Ah, it is not asphalt and rubber, it is merely 200 which may seem fast.

I thought I could play your game. Dropped a Go West reference, a Lear reference, an ALPA reference. If you don't know these it tells me you are not Professional, but you are amateur but we are NICE.

I am disqualified from flying. I would appreciate not being reminded of this.

Really.

I am disqualified by my pocketbook, food allergies, and physique. I have enjoyed airline rides as a child, went up in a significant jet at an airshow. Spent 10 years of my life trying.

Call me Gucci pilot but I can still drive and will drive fast. Maybe not 200, maybe not 100 on dirt, but this is what I enjoy and what I wish I could do.

Stuff your negative disdain and play mafia. I make the best of my situation, you thank god for yours damn it.




How to get back in this game really.


I'm sorry. It wasn't clear enough. My initial read of your flying post and your first posts were the same. WRONG. But, to verify my thoughts and my reads in the game I saw an easy way to do it. After I read this post I picked it apart to see if it's telling. It was very telling. It told me you are not a jet pilot, you would be a private or general aviation pilot. One who does it for the love not the $. So many airline pilots hate flying, they like the lifestyle, the partying, the easy girls. They dress up in their fancy shoes and fancy coat while struting along with that stupid hat. All they actually do is read the paper, twist some knobs, type in some buttons and talk to air traffic. Nowadays, the airlines all fly themselves. It's horrific and who deserve my disdain and they are the ones that are worthless etc.

You didn't respond with any indication of what Airline Pilots Association (ALPA), or Going West (aviator speak for dying) which told me that you were not a Gucci Pilot. I thought you were a general aviation pilot, but I'm happy enough to know we both share an equal love of flying and speed. I don't know your pain yet, but I will. The time will come when I can no longer keep my medical and won't be able to pay the fines for flying anyway.

I'm truly sorry.

Back to the game.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 21:18 GMT
#1932
On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:

Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Setup Information


All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role.



It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.




I haven't seen any post that gives the ratio of mafia to town for this game. But I'm assuming since the two newby games that peaked my interest were 10/3 and we have 26 we have 6 mafia in this game. I have 5 scum that I will gladly take a lynching to show that maybe I am on the right track. I've called out 3 of them at the end of night one. They all appeared and instead of ignoring me like I feel many were, they took it more seriously. Sicklucker is really pushing this 5 thing. Templar too. Sicklucker tries to vote me to pressure but I ignore it till Templar does comes to lend a hand. If my thoughts on this are correct then Templar thought I was a strong enough threat to support Sick in pressuring me. To me this solidifies their relationship.

On D1 I saw that Damdred lightly called bs on Templar's RNG. I don't know how you would rig it, but I am sure a smart person can. It seems he would only have 20 minutes to be able to figure out who to rig it to, how to rig it, and how to generally take advantage of this. Later in the game, on one of my first few posts I questioned GlowingBear on what I thought was strange behavior of Templar's list. If he responded I didn't see it.

Later I challanged Kelsier on his flirting with Bunnies. His response to me I thought was strange telling me to grow up. I guess I expected a "I'm pushing the thread" or an "I'm gathering reads from...". Nope, he says I need to grow up. Huh.

I noticed a pattern with Templar and Kelsier that I didn't really notice with others. GlowingBear and Holyfire challenge Templar a little on his reads and not hunting. Templar responds with "I do have reads, see: Kita, Ninja, Froggy". 6 minutes later, Templar asks Kelsier about something, and Kelsier responds with "I don't like the explanation." 2 minutes after that Templar defends Kelsier again and leaves.

Damdred dying led more credence to his RNG claim. Without that, it's pretty ridiculous. I'm certainly not smart enough to do it, but is Templar and the rest smart enough? If someone looks at the RNG claim, it's pretty easy to see that there is a relationship with Templar and Kelsier. Demdred and I are the only ones with any breadcrumbs that lead to a Templar and Kelsier relationship. Who would be more important to kill to stop that trail?


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1942
On December 13 2014 06:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 06:18 Tubesock wrote:
On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:

Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:

On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Setup Information


All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role.



It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.




I haven't seen any post that gives the ratio of mafia to town for this game. But I'm assuming since the two newby games that peaked my interest were 10/3 and we have 26 we have 6 mafia in this game. I have 5 scum that I will gladly take a lynching to show that maybe I am on the right track. I've called out 3 of them at the end of night one. They all appeared and instead of ignoring me like I feel many were, they took it more seriously. Sicklucker is really pushing this 5 thing. Templar too. Sicklucker tries to vote me to pressure but I ignore it till Templar does comes to lend a hand. If my thoughts on this are correct then Templar thought I was a strong enough threat to support Sick in pressuring me. To me this solidifies their relationship.

On D1 I saw that Damdred lightly called bs on Templar's RNG. I don't know how you would rig it, but I am sure a smart person can. It seems he would only have 20 minutes to be able to figure out who to rig it to, how to rig it, and how to generally take advantage of this. Later in the game, on one of my first few posts I questioned GlowingBear on what I thought was strange behavior of Templar's list. If he responded I didn't see it.

Later I challanged Kelsier on his flirting with Bunnies. His response to me I thought was strange telling me to grow up. I guess I expected a "I'm pushing the thread" or an "I'm gathering reads from...". Nope, he says I need to grow up. Huh.

I noticed a pattern with Templar and Kelsier that I didn't really notice with others. GlowingBear and Holyfire challenge Templar a little on his reads and not hunting. Templar responds with "I do have reads, see: Kita, Ninja, Froggy". 6 minutes later, Templar asks Kelsier about something, and Kelsier responds with "I don't like the explanation." 2 minutes after that Templar defends Kelsier again and leaves.

Damdred dying led more credence to his RNG claim. Without that, it's pretty ridiculous. I'm certainly not smart enough to do it, but is Templar and the rest smart enough? If someone looks at the RNG claim, it's pretty easy to see that there is a relationship with Templar and Kelsier. Demdred and I are the only ones with any breadcrumbs that lead to a Templar and Kelsier relationship. Who would be more important to kill to stop that trail?

I can rig RNG pretty easily. That's not very important at this stage.
I haven't paid any attention to Kelsier except that he is friendly and I treat him in a friendly way.


It's clear I'm batshit crazy, but I don't really know how to respond.

If the RNG is rigged, it plainly shows a strong relationship with you and Kelsier, and a strategy to fish out for some town who's willing to be a distraction and possible wagon target?

Are you saying Kelsier is town? If so, can you elaborate? I don't see much town in kels play. Anywhere, and I don't think many do.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#1943
On December 13 2014 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Just vote HF. He will flip scum.

I've just got home and I'm tired. Don't force me into making a full case on him.


Can you make a case on anyone? Why'd you give up on your Templar push and then go after Koshi so hard when Koshi said that Templar is paying attention?

I don't understand. That and your defense of Sickluckers play I just don't get.




On December 09 2014 23:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, why Templar "paying attention" is something so relevant to you?

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