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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 13:40:16
December 07 2014 06:50 GMT
#103
/obs /IN

Yesterday I discovered the glory that is Mafia. Binge read the Student Mafia IV thread and then 3 of the advice threads. Seems like a wildly fun game. I figure I should probably wade in via /obs instead of diving in and ruining everyone's life with my noobness.

In the dive.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 07 2014 07:47 GMT
#106
On December 07 2014 16:09 Fecalfeast wrote:

I dove right in to a non-newbie game but I agree that /obs will teach you more



I'm not opposed to just jumping in. I do think that this type of game isn't something you can prepare for.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 07 2014 08:07 GMT
#108
it helps to understand not to learn from me


Why do I think a lot of people will say this?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 07 2014 10:31 GMT
#113
What the hell.

/IN

As the game hasn't started I'm assuming I can go back and edit my first post?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 08 2014 10:29 GMT
#181
On December 08 2014 17:24 rsoultin wrote:


Our game inspired you, Tube? Glad you're onboard.


Yes. These games are such great drama. Even if I'm so bad I won't want to play, I'm going to /obs for the pure emotional rollercoaster value.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 08 2014 18:54 GMT
#206
On December 09 2014 01:14 kushm4sta wrote:

Tubesock
smurf cause his name is retarded



Would you like it better if I had a number in it, like "Tubes4ck"?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#214
On December 09 2014 04:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 03:54 Tubesock wrote:
On December 09 2014 01:14 kushm4sta wrote:

Tubesock
smurf cause his name is retarded



Would you like it better if I had a number in it, like "Tubes4ck"?

I hope you're happy with your new nickname, Tubesack



There are certainly worse. "Tubes4ck" maybe too in kushm4sta's pocket which would hurt my newfound WIFOM reputation. Or does it?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 15:10 GMT
#787
Holy Moses.

I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata.

Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's?

Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:

On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Setup Information


All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role.



It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.

Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?



Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 15:13 GMT
#792
On December 10 2014 00:10 liancourt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
obi has a stiffy for hf


So? How can you not be stiff for someone who reps to be able to bus his entire mafia team?

More por favor
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 15:35 GMT
#818
On December 10 2014 00:25 Vivax wrote:

This post looks very mafiaish at this stage of the game.

Tube summarizes some stuff about the argument revolving bunnies and then HTS (which I still have to read atm), and asks another player "stuff" about it as if he couldn't judge it on his own, apparently cause it conflicts with his own reads (what are his reads???). Guessing from the post it would be that he's scumreading 27nb but not HTS, cause he's asking Koshi if he should give more priority to HTS instead of 27nb.



I read 27NB as pretty scummy. I read HTS as null to town. I'm asking Koshi because his assessment isn't the same as mine. From your posts while the argument was happening I feel we agree so I don't think I'll gain anything from repeating it with you. I don't think you read HTS as scum but there's arguments from others who do.

I don't want to ask Lightning because I'll get some random meta call from other games. I don't want to ask Sick because I'm not super impressed with his weird gift claim.

What reads of mine do you want?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 15:59 GMT
#845
On December 10 2014 00:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb just said hes a role for no reason. Wtf man do not open that present.

As a present owner. You should know that you don't know what present you hold.

So why did you think that Gb his present is bad?


Also, no one on the first day and do anything with the present other than gifting it to someone. And then the recipient can't do anything with it till the next DAY. Either open or gift it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 16:01 GMT
#846
On December 10 2014 00:58 liancourt wrote:


Do you have anything to contribute? reads? Anything but wasted posts?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 16:08 GMT
#851
On December 10 2014 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok now tubesock is doing useless setup speculation.
I had so much faith.


I was trying to get Sicklucker to read the gift mechanic better and realize that the presents are random and he's focusing on the wrong thing.

Apparently, so am I. Ugh.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 16:33 GMT
#859
On December 10 2014 01:28 sicklucker wrote:

The person who I sent it to totally knows its from me. same with the person gb sent it to because we sent them at different times.


You don't think they will all receive them at the end of the day/beginning of night?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 16:49 GMT
#862
GlowingBear,

Can you elaborate more on why Templur is scummy?

I read him acting very towny. He started and continued the thread for a good while. While his posts were long, you can certainly argue they were time wasting, they mostly had reads in them. I will be going back and rereading the timings of his posts with the ideas in them to verify your/HF/Ritokey's idea that he just repeated everyone elses read. But when you guys first pushed him I felt like he was the one feeding people the reads and they reacted to him.

Some things I'll ask him later or hopefully he responds to is why list Kelsier to null then later bold town? It didn't appear that Kels did anything to warrant a change. I still have Kels null to scum since he didn't post anything other than constantly talking to 27NB about bras and slippers. Then Kel fishes for scrooge as a "trap" but gets boldface town for it? Do you see that as scummy too or at least very unproductive (naive town)?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 17:00 GMT
#865
On December 10 2014 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
All notifications are done at the start or end of day/night.
Come on guys, this is simple.......

ANYWAY ITS COMPLETELY RANDOM WHAT THE PRESENTS ARE, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

Tubesock, whos scum?


Strongest scum is 27NB - mostly wishy washy Froggy is ok but I'm scum listing him. Then 9 pages of my boobs are too big.

Kelsier but I'm not very confident on him. His scrooge claim irritates me, along with it took a long time for him to have a post of substance or attempted substance.

Alakaslam - mostly I feel he just fishes for people willing to put in the effort for his weird ass posts. I go back and forth between thinking every letter matters and has meaning with him or not. He claims he made the snowman which I assume is his way of saying he figured it out, but uh, how is that remotely possible? Oh and he's a ghost he says. Among many other things. He just wastes so many peoples time. Also, there is bias because I realize I'm too stupid to comprehend what he's actually saying.

I'm pretty intimidated by a few of the players. They just seem like all they have to do is put up a big post (Templur) and bam I feel they are super towny. There's 1 thing about Temp that I am hesitant about otherwise I would strong town him. Which I then WIFOM myself and think he's trying too hard and is mafia thinking/realizing he can easily manipulate us newbies into chaos and mlynching.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 17:10 GMT
#869
On December 10 2014 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Why do you scumlist froggy, tube?


Crap, I didn't. I think he's null. Shit, I totally meant I scum 27NB for her posts that were wishy washy on Froggy but later scum lists him and continues talking about her boobs being too big for bras. I should have put quotations. Sorry, It's 3 am here and I'm fading. But can't sleep cause this stupid game is consuming me.




On December 10 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote:
Well tube do you believe template role claim?


No, I am discarding his Santa "claim" and I think I saw another but I didn't give it any credence. I need to go back and reread that.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 17:18 GMT
#872
On December 10 2014 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is it possible for it to be 3am but you are in the United States?


I live in Alaska but am currently in Papua New Guinea (same time zone as Brisbane, Australia).
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 17:22 GMT
#875
Damdred, I didn't know if you meant since he was writing as Santa. I reread his joy claim but I disregarded it. I feel like he was fishing to see if anyone was reading closely enough and cared enough to point it out. I missed it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 09 2014 17:23 GMT
#876
On December 10 2014 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:
From what I recall, kush claims that the easiest way to figure him out is whether or not he is actually bothering to read filters, since he is incapable of doing so as mafia. Seems like that would apply here.

I can't seem to find the quote myself though. Thought it was in the Doctor Who 2 quicktopic but apparently not.


I've seen that from him or posted about him in either Campus or the other Student IV threads. Those are the only other two threads I've tried to read. I'm pretty sure it's in Campus.
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