Anyway, the most weird thing was that Vivax wasn't protected and he was, I believe, the top town.
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Anyway, the most weird thing was that Vivax wasn't protected and he was, I believe, the top town. | ||
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On December 22 2014 00:31 Xatalos wrote: Well, my playstyle fluctuates too. A heavy factor in this game is that I can't just spam the thread when I have a post limit. Again, I'm not talking about level of activity. I'm talking about the way you're writing your posts or the way you're approaching the game, which is different from the way I'm used to see you doing. | ||
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On December 22 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote: On a slightly unrelated note...I'm beginning to get the feeling that HF, the ultimate townie of awesome, can't be bothered to give a shit unless he's being pushed and in danger of being lynched. For someone so determined to figure out the game... To early to state this. I was already going to push this later in the day, when it comes really clear that he doesn't give a shit to the game in LYLO, the exact same behaviour he says he has when he is scum. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:09 LightningStrike wrote: I had scum read both tbh with you, To tell you the truth I thought we weren't going to get enough on templar in time so I went with my other scum read which was Tubesock that why my voted swap from Templar to Tubesock. Poor excuse, Templar was leading the votes if I remember correctly and if it wasn't for Tubesock ridiculous shenannies, he would probably be lynched. | ||
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This is a post he had on his second page of filter: + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2014 19:17 Xatalos wrote: Damdred -1 Pretty forgettable posts so far instead of awkward like last time.... scum(my)? raynpelikoneet -1 Robik made a funny point about the way how rayn would have stayed up as town (and he even said that he would stay for the deadline too??) haha - started really aggressive after that, nothing really special to say about that, just a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with the not posting at night despite apparently staying up around the deadline... and somehow his reads feel a bit too certain/forced? let's just say null with some concern for now Hapahauli 0 justanothertownie 0 Onegu 0 VayneAuthority 0 IAmRobik 1 Casually townreading people etc. just feels a bit towny, probably KelsierSC 1 "tryhardish" opening post that is actually fluff - and the theme continues.... :/ ugh so awkward, but also confrontational, so maybe just awkwardly tryhard? - really eager to lynch "useless" people ugh..? what is this... well continues to antagonize people so prolly town maybe? dunno... well seems so tryhard that I guess town maybe yamato77 1 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? turtlevine 2 obvious smurf... pretty funny/constructive opening post, townish feels I guess GlowingBear 4 a LOT less awkward than in the Arnie game IMO, so town? yeah seems pretty natural at posting overall, and constructive, so towntown WaveOfShadow 4 Reveals willingly which players he's confident in reading and responds to Kelsier in a pretty casual/townish(?) way - really casual posting style so town lean for now You see, he is someone who has reads on a lot of people and contributes with discussion by exteriorising them. More than that, he takes original stances on people. Here is another post by Xatalos on day 1: + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote: KSC - yeah probably town, really feels like he believes his own ideas and pushes them strongly without care for how he's viewed as a result jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here Robik - not as sure as last game but yeah leaning town for being pretty active and posting stuff you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you WOS - my earlier townread on him was a bit faulty so I don't really anyhow heavily townread him anymore, why is he scum though? GB - I don't necessarily think he's town anymore, his weird connection read on me+WOS, curiousness about someone townreading him, and overall awkward posts lately don't look good... could be scum I guess You see, he is already giving reads on a lot of people. But more than this: he is contributing without being asked to contribute. Take a look at the nested quote. Rayn isn't directing a question towards Xatalos. Xatalos is posting this because he wanted to contribute, he wanted to discuss his reads. I'll go ahead into later days to show you that he keeps the "solving the game" stance throughout the whole thread: + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote: Still weird that he refused to vote for Robik when 1) he claimed to follow jat's lead and jat voted for Robik 2) he didn't have any real opinion of Robik (except "Robik being Robik") and didn't exactly townread me, but agreed with me a lot and didn't seem to at least suspect me. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2014 02:17 Xatalos wrote: Actually I just had a thought. In the Arnie game Damdred constantly asked me these little questions to share my reads more / make me more readable. Damdred's play here reminds me a lot of that. So yeah, I don't want to lynch Damdred today. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2014 02:50 Xatalos wrote: Here are my "condensed" reads >.> VayneAuthority -2 not really a fan of his posts so far, I think someone said that he's pretty serious as scum and trolly as town? serious so far... seems to focus only on survival + made a rather dubious roleclaim claimed JOAT early on D2 "to survive" Onegu -1 AFK and still catching up :/ - entered the game constructively and tried to figure out the game, probably town... Hapa made good points about him being reckless to push rayn as scum + showing suspicion towards a Mason claim haha - well hasn't done much lately so dropped points - rayn flipping town puts him into worse light especially since he just threw his vote on rayn and disappeared Damdred 1 Pretty forgettable posts so far instead of awkward like last time.... scum(my)? - actually his more recent posts mirror my thoughts so town? - rayn made a decent(ish) point about him perhaps being SK since he's a bit forgettable/passive??? and also looked for bluetells earlier... but still not a D1 lynch - worst D1 deadline vote, not good - actually his little questions to me remind a lot of the Arnie game so rather wait and see than lynch for now, feels like potentially town Hapahauli 2 entered with great posts on rayn & me, quite confident that he's town - then dropped rayn suddenly, weird, possible scum after all? dunno, doesn't feel like a good D1 lynch anyway - went on to lynch Mafia GF which makes him a lot more towny - possible SK still considering rayn NK? KelsierSC 3 "tryhardish" opening post that is actually fluff - and the theme continues.... :/ ugh so awkward, but also confrontational, so maybe just awkwardly tryhard? - really eager to lynch "useless" people ugh..? what is this... well continues to antagonize people so prolly town maybe? dunno... well seems so tryhard that I guess town maybe... yeah I guess so - well he's been defending rayn and pushing me with very forced reasons so not confident about him being town anymore (though he'd be very stupid if he's scum with rayn) - well more likely town still, very fearless if scum WaveOfShadow 3 Reveals willingly which players he's confident in reading and responds to Kelsier in a pretty casual/townish(?) way - really casual posting style so town lean for now - really active/chatty in Championship as scum though so could be scum too - but he's still pretty happily participating in the discussion and felt genuinely frustrated at some point so town after all? - away for a lot of crucial discussion which drops his points by one - well he's come back to the thread and his posts seem pretty good lately - his thoughts resonated with my thoughts around deadline quite a bit which is good yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all Look at how he has opinion on everybody and shares it with everyone. Look at how he tried to see things from people's perspective. Look at how he has a thought and posts it in the thread to share his opinion with everybody. This is town Xatalos. ************** Mafia Xatalos is determined by suing the necessary, asking questions, and not really having original thoughts and stances. Moreover, he doesn't have an overall view of the game. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote: Kushm4sta, by the way, I hope you're planning to play this game seriously. I've witnessed several games that you've partly ruined by lurking or worse. If you're scum, you can get policy lynched. That's fine. High level of certainty/aggressiveness, uncommon on his townplay described above. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 07:43 Xatalos wrote: Well, that game is special in the sense that it started during night and nights were PM-only within given Houses. I definitely put pressure on gumshoe and Grackaroni during the night, I'd say. And I was relatively aggressive during the first day, as well. Probably not as aggressive as here, I agree. Do you mean that passive = townish and aggressive/proactive = scummy? Or what? I can't really see myself playing like this as scum. It'd have to be pretty carefully crafted at least. Too defensive when inquired, lacking deep reads on people. + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 08:09 Xatalos wrote: These are definitely some good points. It's surely premature to declare Corazon as today's lynch, but it would be a good pick in the current situation. I dislike Artanis's dismissal of Corazon's play as well, but I doubt Artanis and Corazon would be scum together. It would seem risky to make a connection like that. That's WIFOM, though. Commenting others ideas without actually bringing his own to the table. Says something wishy washy without risking himself with his reads ********* Xatalos is playing much more like his scum game than his town game here. This is specific and out of context, but illustrates what I'm saying: + Show Spoiler + On December 18 2014 23:31 Xatalos wrote: Yeah I agree. For both of those the scum motivation is strong and the town motivation is non-existent. I like Templar as scum too, though. But at least he hasn't actively pushed scum agenda. ##Vote GlowingBear This is Xat agreeing with an idea which is not his own, going against a townie, which he had no deep read or strong push. He also doesn't have any list post like I've brought from Guilty Mini Mafia. (Town game: Guilty Mini Mafia Scum game: Titanic II)( | ||
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In here it's 13, and it's low considering the posting restriction could be something around 25 pages (5 days x 5 pages of filter each day) Posting restrictions isn't an excuse. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:22 rsoultin wrote: I wanted to see LS' response, too. However, GB, faulty reasoning or not (and I think it had more to do with me calling for the shenannies than anything) if there's one ghost in the game, there's probably more than one. LS is less likely to be scum than even FF. WIFOM. I could say that I'd there are 2 ghosts in the game, there is more likely to be three, and the third hasn't claimed yet. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:23 Alakaslam wrote: ##Vote: TheTemplar Stay the course you fools. Wrong on 27nb, wrong on Tubesock. I would think you would listen to me. Xata Is A Question mark It's impossible to listen to you when you're this detached from the game. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:30 Alakaslam wrote: Lol Well, detached or not I have been right twice Well, I've being right on my townreads, also. I also didn't see anything particular scummy on NB but was to busy to follow the game at the time And I'm saying Xatalos is mafia Ta-daaaa! | ||
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I can't understand how you're reevaluating your read on me, doubting holyflare's towniness because he isn't active, thinking my meta case is decent, but still believing Templar is the best lynch. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:48 Alakaslam wrote: Templar best lynch! Look We need to stay the course Xata maybe tomorrow? Too much question mark Templar was active early Then started to lurk late Then returned only when pressured Templar is not town You can say the same about HF. Why are you not going against him again? | ||
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On December 22 2014 22:15 Half the Sky wrote: SL, I did not actually town read Tube. He was all over the place, but I was going to give him more time before concluding anything on him. Also at that time, I felt more strongly about others and focused on them/reviewed cases. At EoD, we did not have enough votes for GB, so we consolidated. But when we consolidated on Templar, Rasputin had second thoughts about Templar, given how easily the wagon piled up. At the time, it made sense given the 27NB wagon D1, and not wanting a repeat of that, second-guessed myself which is why I got my vote off Templar. Tube had not posted in awhile, and that's why the decision was made. This is horrible excuse. You're deflecting responsibility to rsoultin, and you're saying that the wagon on templar was built fast. If it was built that fast on Templar, what to say about the wagon on tube? Light speed? This is EXACTLY what I said about the wagon on Tubesock. Exactly. And you didn't back up. Why this double standards? | ||
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On December 22 2014 23:20 rsoultin wrote: ...I actually agree with GB and lian on HF. Why do I agree with GB and lian on HF? - He has an excuse for everything. Literally. Everything. Keep telling the teacher your dog ate your hw, dude. - His push against bunnies (and I know most of you sheeped it) was not a strong push. It was a Day 1 push and could have been by a town, true, and most of town agreed with him, but it all started with a list post? And cause she posted some fluff? There was no reason for that wagon to be as crazy strong as it was. - His other case was against...Templar. Look at his case. Reread it. Read my critique on it. He is clearly misrepresenting some of the facts, which at best says that case was haphazard, and at worst that he was doing it intentionally. And tell me what Templar has really done other than lurk. Tell me that isn't a policy lynch. - Most of his filter is him screaming at people for scumreading him and going on about how he is going to win this game. Rofl. Seriously? For those of you who have played with him before, is this your great town leader? Bunnies and Templar and rage!fitting? What has he contributed to the scum lynches we actually got? KSC he had nothing to do with, ritoky he barely pushed at all. I haven't played with him before. Maybe he is always hot air. But that doesn't explain those of you saying he's an amazing player... - Look at when his activity slacked off. It's been almost 48 hours since his last posts when he promised to start actually playing and bringing reads. Do you see any? And why has his activity slacked off? Oh, sure, it may be Xmas... OR IT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST DAY THAT HE IS NOT BEING PUSHED FOR LYNCH SINCE DAY 2 I wanted a scumread on him before I pushed him. I now have it. Do what y'all want, but to me, this is better than an oh, Templar hasn't really been playing push. ##vote HF + Show Spoiler + ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() GOD FINALLY SHED LIGHT INTO THE PIT OF DARKNESS | ||
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Nonetheless, what I said remains correct. You're still too busy defending yourself than actually putting your thoughts on the thread and actively scumhunting. | ||
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