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On December 15 2014 17:24 Vivax wrote:
I hope I can bring some fresh wind into all this present and night action bullshit wifom, why don't people fucking look at the plays ???????
I have about gb and ritoky -.-
I don't agree with your xatalos case though because like he said he was talking about the lesser of 2 evils for the lynch on me/kelsier and ended up on mafia anyway so there's that.
Do think we should lynch oats though.
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Listen to rsoul (hehe sounds like arse hole) about gb, he's pretty smart. Gb didn't want to shoot me last night at all despite being so sure that I'm mafia. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention that his "point by point breakdown" of all my defenses NEVER happened. There is no rebuttal from him because he was wrong and he pushed lies and he's trying to save face. Even today he's said "oh hf is mafia unless he claims vet" what the bs is that? Who puts a qualifier on a mafia read before that person has even returned to the thread to explain things? Then when I still wasn't around and after saying I could be town if i claim vet HE'S STILL ONLY PUSHING ME AS MAFIA. 3 days later and he's still pushing his 1 terrible mafia read without ever saying he's wrong but giving loads of reasons why he should be wrong.
Tldr of everything;
Made a case based on lies and things that don't make anyone mafia
I'm his only scum read this entire game and am town and he should be cautious reading me after being so wrong about me last game
Admitted he couldn't find evidence for his case after i almost got lynched
Said all my defences are shit and he will attack them but never has the entire game
After admitting his points were wrong still continues to call me mafia and no other reads still on d3
Didn't want his mafia read shot
Said i could be town today if i claim a role but then said I'm scum and to lynch me straight after
Tried to deflect a mafia wagon onto a town yesterday
I mean the list is endless tbh and i don't even think off the top of my head these are all the main points
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On December 15 2014 17:49 Vivax wrote:
It's really tiring to go through your filter tbh. It's like you're at war with the thread and when I try to look for some nice synopsis of why GB and ritoky are scum I don't find it. If you really want to get your points across clearly you should try doing something like a bullet list, cause I still can't figure out what makes GB scum except your claims that he's misrepresenting you. Yes, people are lazy and don't see things as easily as you do.
I am basically at war with the thread because everytime i call someone scummy and give actual reasons people ignore me, call me mafia and then argue about presents. I'm also on holiday on a phone wasting my time defending myself because i don't want my death to be pointless
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Yes I thought that too but I've seen him tunneled before and it was never to this extent. It's more telling that he admitted his case was wrong/based on things that never happened but almost nobody in the game has pointed that out (apart from rsoul/someone else). Most disappointed in you of all people vivax for sheeping it.
Oats is probably mafia for all his defences of these town people and crazy lurking. Really don't like your xata point of defending me because the case was so wrong against me that it needed looking into.
Really don't remember anything templar has done since his day 1 santa posts will look at later. Froggy came into the thread and agreed with gb's case and was agreeing with gb despite gb basing a lot of connection being me mafia with froggy. I feel like if he was town he'd immediately jump on this false logic and the case was also bad so kind of biased against anyone that liked it. Been pretty afk most of the game too.
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On December 15 2014 19:42 sicklucker wrote:
Gb has been totally open about the possibility of hf being town. He doesint want to vote him today and didnt want you shot if I recall. I feel like its the other way around your not considering that your both town. If you were more involved in this game it would be easier for me to be on your side.
I really don't think you're reading the same game
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Ok well I read templar and I'm really not enthused. He spent all of day 2 not particularly doing anything (i also noticed he said he liked kelsier but also gave the caveat that he hadn't really read the thread at all) and gave no input into literally any of the wagons at all. He was so heavily focused on Tubesock and all of his posts but never really with anything else at all. For someone who read the thread he just jumped onto my wagon with ease based on not even gb's case but a small post gb made.
If he hasn't been reading the thread he shouldn't know whether any of the case is true or not and if he did read the thread he'd know it wasn't. He also never bothered to read me at all, never bothered to even check anything about anyone but instead only attacked tubesock for voting on mafia instead of his main read which is so fucking irrelevant when the lynch was between me/ff/kelsier that i find it hard to believe he even cares who he is voting as long as it isn't kelsier.
It's really scummy that he has no real thoughts of his own and was quite happy to sheep onto a mislynch with no real work behind anything other than going after tube.
Tubesock, you crazy.
I said that reading me as town after those santa fluff posts was bad unless you had reasoning. I saw NB was worse than Kelsier so I switched to her.
It's also super outrageous that templar says this and then the post he sheeped gb on and agreed with to vote me was saying that i had no reason to be on nb
His filter is also littered with useless comments like when froggy returns with a list post he just ignored any of the content in it and instead just asked an irrelevant "what do you think about x" question
This dude is super scummy.
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On December 15 2014 22:18 GlowingBear wrote:
If you're not mafia, I've never seen your town play lacking this consistency, HF.
I remember pretty well you going against Rayn and other players when you thought they are mafia, and you're not doing it this game. Instead, you were picking on ritoky just the way you were picking on obi on hearthstone mafia. You're pushing people because they are "lying", the same excuse you used with obi in that game.
Now, really, you say 3 people are terrible for wasting their votes, does not go against them, scumreads me and ritoky, drops your vote on FF, who was soft confirmed town by Santa.
A scum who was dying wasted his vote instead of trying to survive and kill you.
You don't think all the facts are against you?
Do you think i could lynch you with 0 posts left im the day?
Do you think i could lynch ritoky with 0 posts left in the day?
Did i think fecal had a great chance of being mafia?
Only 1 of those questions has a yes answer. I was also going to check my present at night to see if ritoky actually opened it and whether he was just lying so that's why i didn't push him about his present but you fucked with everything gb.
This game is perfectly different because I'm limited by posts and not only am i on holiday and being forced to fucking post every 5 minutes just to defend myself from your bull shit but it's hard to really follow on when I'm trying to enjoy time with my gf on a romantic trip, I've done what I can and I've pushed DECENT things. Ritoky has a great fucking chance at beinf mafia now that he claimed rb while obi most likely did too but you ignore it. You push all this useless shit. You have no idea what makes me town and what makes me mafia just like last game where you thought i was 100% mafia so different insta lynch and I wasn't. You are literally just dwindling away my post count for your own gain. You haven't done anything you said in regards to my defence. You rescinded your points about me and froggy. You made up bs about me pushing things i would do normally etc. I researched the peoples votes and made extra reads on them when you asked me to and then somehow evolving a read on those people makes me scum but so does my stale vote on bunnies and so does my present sending (which apparently you use a heuristic to town read yourself. Yeh fuck that) nothing you say makes any sense.
I suggest you drop everything. You leave me the fuck alone. You play the rest of the game in a little corner and either do absolutely nothing and admit you are mafia or post reads about actual people that could be mafia. I'm so tired of your useless shit. I'm not responding to you anymore.
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Yes i already posted about that and it was in a fit of rage that i wasn't really thinking about the game and more how gb ignores everything everywhere to just return and say I'm mafia. It probably is true he was jk'd but it doesn't necessarily affect his alignment i think
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On December 15 2014 16:27 Holyflare wrote:
Although if ritoky is mafia then his vig present claim is pretty ridiculous because why wouldn't he use it last night as mafia for a free kp? Especially if they are rbing obi that would just auto set him up today to be lynched by claiming to be rb'd because obi looks super obviously like the vig to them with the lm comments.
There's also the chance that he didn't open the present but if that were the case he super gambled that he got the vig shot and that the other present was the role check.
I dunno what's going on here.
Probably means he WAS jk'd
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You don't have to look at meta to see oats is scummy. No idea why you only have a tiny bit based on his content and those things aren't even the things that make oats scummy.
However, bunnies didnt explain shit on her change which makes me think it is really bad. So too scum to be scum.
On December 12 2014 22:13 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 22:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him.
His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me. explain pls. Im not feeling it.
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
It's things like this where he tries to shut down wagons (on conveniently town wagons (pending ff isn't gf or something) based on really just nothing. It's worse when he tries to shit on the ff lynch because of his post count and not the content especially as there were lots of content cases on ff at that point and i don't think it was till after vivax called him out that he started adding more reasons why the lynch was bad (the nk analysis things etc).
He is just uninvolved and downplaying lynches to end up only lynching lurkers.
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On December 15 2014 23:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I think we have a roleblock in mafia and in town it would be a small chance of that happening and that why we got so few kills last night. There is no medic our set up but we got a roleblock who can save a person life in Nigella Lawson who roleblock and prevents people from dieing when she roleblocks people. There is chance we got her in our power roles left and mafia could have a Patronising Prick who just roleblocks.
We've already made that conclusion :p
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On December 15 2014 23:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:19 Holyflare wrote:On December 15 2014 23:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I think we have a roleblock in mafia and in town it would be a small chance of that happening and that why we got so few kills last night. There is no medic our set up but we got a roleblock who can save a person life in Nigella Lawson who roleblock and prevents people from dieing when she roleblocks people. There is chance we got her in our power roles left and mafia could have a Patronising Prick who just roleblocks. We've already made that conclusion :p I was just stating since obviously I didn't see anyone make the conclusion but like I said it's possible but like 1 in a million both scum and town got a roleblocker.
Huh? You think it's unlikely??? So you think ritoky is mafia and lying about being rb'd then?
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On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.
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On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.
Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me.
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On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. why didnt rit vote HF to save kel???? HF mafia please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes vote HF kill rito tomorrow
Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky.
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On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it.
Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious.
He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before.
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How obvious would it be if he went against everything he had just said earlier and lynched me over mafia??
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On December 16 2014 08:04 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. why didnt rit vote HF to save kel???? HF mafia please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes vote HF kill rito tomorrow Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky. i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information rit flipping now will tell me nothing
Just play the game and lynch obvious mafia??? It's not difficult to split your reasoning into if i flip town and if i flip mafia is it? Me dying changes absolutely nothing but 1 mislynch closer to losing because you don't want to lynch confirmed mafia first.
Stop spamming the same useless nonsense please i know you're better than that
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On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before. Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't. Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious.
I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time.
If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.
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On December 16 2014 08:21 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
How obvious would it be if he went against everything he had just said earlier and lynched me over mafia?? then how do u explain what truffles did he went against everything he said, he even made a case on mafia and yet voted you in the end but was actually the seer some people just dont act rationally you need to die today and flip so i can anlayze day 2 votes. I'm thinking a world where mafia thought they had it good with majority votes on tube and was pretty lenient with how they played and was raped in the ass when votes moved off of tube. The train going on ff failed and went back to kel and mafia had to decide on which mafia to bus. They picked kel because HF prolly has a better role than him. In this instance rit and xat look scummy as hell. But to confirm my suspicions HF needs to flip. Vote HF kill rito tomorrow.
Yes because town aren't super paranoid about being inconsistent and looking scummy. Mafia always are.
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