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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 19:47 GMT
#1182
Not HTS, lol.

I'm not going to consolidate just for the sake of consolidating right now. Some haven't been online. Kush and Hope are supposedly still reading. We have over 24 hours before EoD. If people want to make their case for why they're voting for who, I'm down for that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 20:28 GMT
#1191
Just feels too easy. The case against him is minimal. Everyone is way too willing to jump on it. HTS isn't a huge town read for me, if at all, but at the same time it seems weird that so many people would be eager to push him based off so little. And eh, bugger, you're right about the time. I was reading the time the mod said was left but it obviously wasn't updated.

I really, truly believe lightningstrike is the best lynch here, but if I have to go with one of the two pushes we have moving now (kush or hts) I'm going for kush.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 20:39 GMT
#1194
Already did, Damdred. I've stated why I think he is several times.

His only significant contributions have been pushing dicks (a couple times in all caps), crawling up bats' ass and...not a heck of a lot else. Oats says no, no, he's making it too easy, mafia wouldn't do that. Maybe Oats is right.

And the three people on kush are HTS and the two who haven't been in the later part of this convo when people started swinging votes to HTS. So that point, Damdred, is invalid. Plus, I'm gonna be frank here, you are a scum read for me lol. I don't trust you as far as I can spit. And Oats' near godlike treatment as the oracle of all sits uneasy with me too. I get that he's good at the game but does that mean he's above all suspicion always?

##unvote lightningstrike

##vote kushm4sta
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 20:46 GMT
#1202
You may be right bats. -shrugs- But as usual you're not backing up your claims so, okay?

On November 30 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Kushm4sta (3): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky
Half the Sky (2): Oatsmaster, Damdred
meatpudding (1): LightningStrike
batsnacks (1): sicklucker
Hopeless1der(1): batsnacks
LightningStrike (1): rsoultin
No Lynch (1): Hopeless1der

Not Voting (1): kushm4sta


Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


@hopeless
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:02 GMT
#1210
For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#1234
Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.

Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote:
Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.

Has yet to do so.

Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.

I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.

As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.

Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.

You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...

And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.


And you conveniently left out the context for the list...

On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.

Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)

less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?

that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats


Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:25 GMT
#1238
Kinda interesting to me that the leads on this are bats and damdred. Just saying. Y'all can remember that when I flip town if they get this lynch rolling.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:34 GMT
#1248
-shrugs- I have.

I still would lynch lightningstrike for playing the frightened rabbit I don't want to get lynched as a vanilla town so I'm not going to participate card, I still don't like how easy it was for Damdred to convince all the currently present players to flip on HTS and then claims it wasn't by citing the absent players still on kush as an example.

I could keep pointing fingers or repeating myself, but I've made my opinions/reads pretty clear throughout the game. SL and breshke are still my strongest town reads. Why would I have a read on you already? lol Slam was completely null other than the AFK, which apparently was for personal reasons. Anyone trying to push you right now would be odd to me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:38 GMT
#1250
On November 30 2014 06:27 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.

Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote:
Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.

Has yet to do so.

Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.

I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.

As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.

Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.

You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...

And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.


And you conveniently left out the context for the list...

On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.

Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)

less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?

that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats


Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.


So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?


Bats, gonna dropkick you again. The post that you edited parts out of is about kush being scum. The list that you chose to quote without the rest of the post was what content I could glean out of the 3 pages of posts in his filter at the time of the post.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:41 GMT
#1252
Fine and fair enough, Damdred. Perhaps it was just bats who was the eager beaver who voted HTS as "definite scum". I'm not going back through the thread right now, but it seemed like there were more eating it up.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:43 GMT
#1253
You just made my point, bats? List, not a list of scummy behavior. Post was saying that having so little content was scum. Now you're boring me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 00:48 GMT
#1342
i'd have no reason to hammer him if you believe hts is town and i'm mafia. I wouldn't put myself out there fighting over 2 vanilla towns -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 00:57 GMT
#1350
Lol, I said that because Damdred has HTS as town, bats. I honestly don't know anymore.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 01:03 GMT
#1352
Yup, I'm at a loss. I honestly wanted ls and just didn't think it was hts over kush...damdred and bats coming after me had me almost convinced they were the scum team lol. Now I'm not sure if we're just all off our rocker and scum is sitting back and laughing or what. Meh.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 01:07 GMT
#1355
Heh, at this point nothing would surprise me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#1359
Man...I think SL is right. Maybe this will make more sense in the morning.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 01:41 GMT
#1369
Eh, honestly SL can't think of a reason that wouldn't make sense, me and HTS...except kush was a mod-kill, but even then, if we were mafia partners neither of us was in a position to get enough votes to lynch someone other than one of the three of us. HTS or myself flipping scum looks bad for the other one. Lol, the only defense I have means nothing to anyone but me, the only other defense being I wasn't going to vote kush originally, but that doesn't really prove anything either so...

Eh. HTS is scum and I'm not he has no reason to not vote me. Im scum and he's not I shouldn't have been voting a likely mod kill in the first place.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 01:46 GMT
#1374
LS...unless I'm remembering wrong...voted me simply because I was voting him before lol. At least I don't remember him having another reason. The switch back to HTS was just generally following the lynch mob since they didn't have enough votes to kill me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 02:38 GMT
#1387
That is certainly the truth.

And I'd still bet anything that LS is scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 30 2014 17:23 GMT
#1393
Heh, well...my first instinct is the lynch mob shenaningans last night and squabbling was mostly town fighting town with maybe 1 or 2 scum jumping in to take advantage of the confusion.

@bats, what's the deal with only using parts of my posts when you're quoting me? maybe that's common but it feels scummy as hell, especially when what you're badgering me about is explained right in the text of the posts that you conveniently left out of your quotes

@ls...still think you're scummy, dude, but I did see that you claimed to be convinced by bats, damdred and hope that I was scum and weren't just voting cause I had voted for you, so my bad on that score

yeah, breshke could be false claiming, but there was still a role out and about night 1. doubt mafia was so sure of trfel that they didn't bother to rb, unless rber was afk or something
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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