Oats, I had drawn a few conclusions before I went to bed last night. I pointed to the inconsistency in Kush's D1 post when I made my top three scrum reads with Kush being one of them. I had bought in to Kushs argument based on the urgency from DSMI. After DSMI was proven town, I revisited his post and made the comparisons.

As for the overexplained part, I am making sure I can follow the logic used by others to go after Kush. I might not be the first one posting here but I failed to probe harder when Kush made his pitch for DSMI. I did not want to make the same mistake again for a vote on Kush. I spent more time filter diving for a reason.

I am scrum hunting and checking what is already being put out is right.

Which is why I used the above checklist as a guide. Does this make sense?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 29 2014 16:04 GMT

#1122

On November 30 2014 01:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Oats, I had drawn a few conclusions before I went to bed last night. I pointed to the inconsistency in Kush's D1 post when I made my top three scrum reads with Kush being one of them. I had bought in to Kushs argument based on the urgency from DSMI. After DSMI was proven town, I revisited his post and made the comparisons.

As for the overexplained part, I am making sure I can follow the logic used by others to go after Kush. I might not be the first one posting here but I failed to probe harder when Kush made his pitch for DSMI. I did not want to make the same mistake again for a vote on Kush. I spent more time filter diving for a reason.

I am scrum hunting and checking what is already being put out is right.

Which is why I used the above checklist as a guide. Does this make sense?

dude no way you are town.

get lynched.

Kush is town.
#blazeit

rsoultin, thats exactly what Im saying. scum would be more aware of their image.
kush dont give a shit

Half the Sky

Germany9029 Posts

November 29 2014 16:05 GMT

#1123

EBWOP - Autocorrected. Should be scum hunting.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 29 2014 16:08 GMT

#1124

This shit is like covering his ass.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 29 2014 16:09 GMT

#1125

Not sure I agree with you on kush, Oats, but I can understand why you'd come to those conclusions.

Now why are you after HTS?

Damdred

15669 Posts

November 29 2014 16:15 GMT

#1126

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469267-fantasy-football-mafia-mini-2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia

Look at these games and tell me why Kush is town in them?

This is not giving an excuse not to lynch kush but when Kush is busy he actually really does afk, look at what hes posted and see if it looks towny or looks scummy. Thats how you really tell, is kush super combative or trying to figure the game out when hes present and participating thats how you really tell.

We have roughly 6 hours to figure out the best lynch and i'm not sold on a kush lynch based on this misinterpretation of his meta that some people are putting out their.

Damdred

15669 Posts

November 29 2014 16:19 GMT

#1127

##Vote Half

Look guys at his filter. He spends most of his time discrediting people for the push yesterday, spends a great amount of time on me but then never talks about me at all once he votes bat and doesn't even put me in his top scum list. I'm not even sure exactly why hes off of bats and unto kush besides that its the vote gaining the most traction.

Hes probably scum here

Damdred

15669 Posts

November 29 2014 16:19 GMT

#1128

Post game cred, scum team half, SL and Hopeless

Half the Sky

Germany9029 Posts

November 29 2014 16:24 GMT

#1129

Damdred, you used meta to discredit Trfel's case against Bats and you're using the same rationale in defence of Bats?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 29 2014 16:26 GMT

#1130

So from one quarter (Oats) over-explaining the vote change, and from another quarter (Damdred) a reason can't be found.

Damdred, I've still got a bone to pick with you. Your initial argument with SL, you scum-read HTS practically right out the gate without an explanation. Care to enlighten me?

Damdred

15669 Posts

November 29 2014 16:28 GMT

#1131

Trfel has never played with bats, there are some merits to that case still. But there are other factors that play into bats alignment for me that he did not cover that go into my general read of him every game that are correct generally.

And why are you asking about my read of bats when you bandwagon'd on kush just like you did on dick? So you can blame the main pushers and discredit them some more?

Damdred

15669 Posts

November 29 2014 16:29 GMT

#1132

On November 30 2014 01:26 rsoultin wrote:
So from one quarter (Oats) over-explaining the vote change, and from another quarter (Damdred) a reason can't be found.

Damdred, I've still got a bone to pick with you. Your initial argument with SL, you scum-read HTS practically right out the gate without an explanation. Care to enlighten me?

I think i've said before that I did not like how SL was giving htl a free town pass for something he didn't do. Basically a town read for nothing when htl was playing the middle ground to well and being wishy washy.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 29 2014 16:33 GMT

#1133

On November 30 2014 01:19 Damdred wrote:
##Vote Half

Look guys at his filter. He spends most of his time discrediting people for the push yesterday, spends a great amount of time on me but then never talks about me at all once he votes bat and doesn't even put me in his top scum list. I'm not even sure exactly why hes off of bats and unto kush besides that its the vote gaining the most traction.

Hes probably scum here

dude you cant sheep me without saying you are sheeping me/.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 29 2014 16:36 GMT

#1134

That I'd buy if SL had actually said that. It took him three (plus) times of saying it was just a slight initial read leaning toward town for you to pay attention and accept that he wasn't crawling into bed with HTS (and dude, first time he mentioned it that's exactly what he said slight). Just seems very weird there Damdred for you to pick that bone to worry at, and finally accept it after he said the same thing he'd been saying.

Is wishy-washy unusual right out the starting gate?

Is SL reading scum to you for any reason but that?

Is HTS for that matter?

Otherwise, the circular reasoning is staggering. HTS is scum because SL is scum because HTS is scum? Lol. Dangerous way to look at things, that.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 29 2014 16:38 GMT

#1135

yeah maybe tahts complete bullshit from damdred.
Mannnnnnn.......

Half the Sky

Germany9029 Posts

November 29 2014 16:39 GMT

#1136

Damdred: Because your rationale (or use of meta) is inconsistent. My rationale for going after both was not without checking each of their reasons for voting the way they did. My methods weren't flawless but they have been consistent.

If I posted with no explanation, then you have a case.

Oats: It is equally probable that Kush is staying low to make you think he's not scum.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 29 2014 16:43 GMT

#1137

On November 30 2014 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:

Oats: It is equally probable that Kush is staying low to make you think he's not scum.

completely untrue.
You know what, im gonna stay on this just because half the sky takes no personal responsibility towards his voting and actions.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

November 29 2014 16:43 GMT

#1138

hi oats.
ok you are town because i see no reason for scum to come out of no where with a townread on me, especially when your opinion holds so much weight, being probably the most familiar with my meta.

The problem is I have no scum reads. Scum is try harding and I have to read filters which I don't have time for. Flip is at 5 pm today I think, and the likelihood that I will get to read filters is slim to none.

Also to the people saying "You had time to write this post but no to form scum reads??"
I respond with writing this post is taking about 2 minutes. Forming scumreads would require probably 1 to 2 hours of close reading filters.