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Okay, kush. I get you haven't been around, and yes there is way too much shit here to read. I get that. Maybe just read what's been written since the day started? I'd like to hear what you think. What everyone does, honestly.
Oats...what bugs me about you is I can't follow your logic a lot. That might be a fault with me just being slow in the head, but, eh...I will say though that as far as kush is concerned although he's been an almost non-entity since the beginning and his reads are weak, mr. passive over there is a better lynch for not contributing anything.
I'm still stuck on his trying to push a no-lynch on day 1. Yeah, we hit town. Okay. But I feel that the no-lynch option is better reserved for end game and watching what people are doing with the vote is too valuable to discard. Seems scummy.
Also this I played too aggressive last game so I'm not this game seems reasonable on the surface, but as vanilla town, what do you lose getting lynched? Yeah, you don't want to, cause that hurts your team and it's annoying to get lynched when you're innocent. Got that. However he's willing to basically not play at all in exchange? Doesn't take any experience at all to realize you don't win as town without probing for scum.
I'm shelving you for now, kush. Oats hasn't convinced me, but lightning is a better lynch imo. Especially if he's changed how he plays so dramatically and keeps using last game as his excuse for trying to hide in a corner. Scum hides. I didn't get too aggressive with him earlier cause I thought he might possibly have a town role again (which he seemed to be hinting at, an especially bad move while playing rabbit)...
##unvote kush
##vote lightningstrike
Sorry dude. Just don't buy this helpless scared act from you. Was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but...that's done now.
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[B]On November 30 2014 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
completely untrue.
You know what, im gonna stay on this just because half the sky takes no personal responsibility towards his voting and actions.
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Wrong. LightningStrike pushed me earlier on why I drove the push for DMSI. I took responsibility for voting him, absolutely but I explained my rationale for doing so.
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On November 30 2014 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred: Because your rationale (or use of meta) is inconsistent. My rationale for going after both was not without checking each of their reasons for voting the way they did. My methods weren't flawless but they have been consistent.
If I posted with no explanation, then you have a case.
Oats: It is equally probable that Kush is staying low to make you think he's not scum.
How is my use of meta inconsistent, I have a good meta read on bats overall and his play this game looks decently in line with his usual town play.
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EBWOP - quote messed up, code fail
On November 30 2014 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
completely untrue.
You know what, im gonna stay on this just because half the sky takes no personal responsibility towards his voting and actions.
Wrong. LightningStrike pushed me earlier why I drove the push for DMSI. I took responsibility for voting him, absolutely but I explained my rationale for doing so. [/QUOTE]
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Okay I woke up and been reading the cases brought by rsoultin and meatpudding and honestly I still scared and honestly I don't really buy the case on kush and my vote will still stand on meatpudding until Breshke can give me his reason for wanting to lynch kushm4sta.
rsoultin let me ask you had you read my filter from my last game and looked at how that game ended? If not then looking in that game might be the clue you need to figure why I am so scared.
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Damdred: What I'm trying to say is that you can't say someone cannot use meta and then use it yourself. If you want to agree to disagree that is fine.
Meta arguments either way hold nothing to me personally but that is besides the point.
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On November 30 2014 01:57 Half the Sky wrote:EBWOP - quote messed up, code fail Show nested quote +On November 30 2014 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
completely untrue.
You know what, im gonna stay on this just because half the sky takes no personal responsibility towards his voting and actions.
Wrong. LightningStrike pushed me earlier why I drove the push for DMSI. I took responsibility for voting him, absolutely but I explained my rationale for doing so.
I can confirm I did push you for driving the push for DMSI and you did take responsibility for voting him and you did had a good explanation in eyes for the push.
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No, I haven't. I won't. I don't meta-play. Maybe that's a mistake on my part, but I go by how people are playing now. And I go with logic (which also might be a mistake because not everyone plays logically).
However all you have to lose ls is you get lynched. If you're vanilla town that might help mafia win, but you have no role. If we all played like you no one would ever be lynched (not entirely true cause we'd all get mod-killed, but what, random voting based on nothing but instinct?) and we'd just be picked off one by one by mafia.
The point is you have no reason to be too scared to play. Plain and simple. No matter what happened last game. This is a game, you're not really going to die lol.
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2) Breshke (filter)
7) Meatpudding (filter)
10) Damdred (filter)
11) alakaslam (filter) replaced by Hopeless1der (filter)
scum's in here somewhere?
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On November 30 2014 02:05 rsoultin wrote:
No, I haven't. I won't. I don't meta-play. Maybe that's a mistake on my part, but I go by how people are playing now. And I go with logic (which also might be a mistake because not everyone plays logically).
However all you have to lose ls is you get lynched. If you're vanilla town that might help mafia win, but you have no role. If we all played like you no one would ever be lynched (not entirely true cause we'd all get mod-killed, but what, random voting based on nothing but instinct?) and we'd just be picked off one by one by mafia.
The point is you have no reason to be too scared to play. Plain and simple. No matter what happened last game. This is a game, you're not really going to die lol.
Fair enough I guess but my inexperience in TL mafia is showing pretty damn well T_T. Okay I will try to play more agressive and I had to ask you, meatpudding, and Breshke on your guys case on kush so I can compare that to my own and my conclusion was it was still a weak case overall. Unless Breshke gives a better reason for his case on kush I keeping my vote to meatpudding as it stands since I believe it's one of the stronger cases we got here although my bias for bats might be him driving my lynch last game and this game he wanted to live which is kind of odd I would say.
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Kush, two questions.
1 Why are you scumlisting Breshke? He claimed he was hit with RB. Are you counterclaiming? Has anyone?
2 Why are you scumlisting someone who has just entered the game? (Hopeless)
Alakaslam in my eyes was a pure policy lynch. And you said it yourself to me when you brought up DSMI. What prompted the change?
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I think hopeless is an excellent lynch.
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On November 30 2014 02:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred: What I'm trying to say is that you can't say someone cannot use meta and then use it yourself. If you want to agree to disagree that is fine.
Meta arguments either way hold nothing to me personally but that is besides the point.
I think i've made it abundantly clear that i disagree with his meta case....if they hold nothing for you w hy are you making a big deal about it
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I too am reluctant to point the finger at Hopeless when he just took over for an AFK player who was taken out by the mod. Unless you saw something scummy from slam's filter (I didn't, but I'm not perfect by any stretch)?
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What's your case on meat, ls?
That Oats likes meat for it? Cause to me that is about as weak as it gets, if that's all you've got.
Damdred you're ignoring me. You shouldn't be ignoring me. Makes me cry. More to the point, ignoring me and not others to argue around in circles rather than answering a new question...This is not the first time you've dodged questions from me.
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On November 30 2014 01:36 rsoultin wrote:
That I'd buy if SL had actually said that. It took him three (plus) times of saying it was just a slight initial read leaning toward town for you to pay attention and accept that he wasn't crawling into bed with HTS (and dude, first time he mentioned it that's exactly what he said slight). Just seems very weird there Damdred for you to pick that bone to worry at, and finally accept it after he said the same thing he'd been saying.
Is wishy-washy unusual right out the starting gate?
Is SL reading scum to you for any reason but that?
Is HTS for that matter?
Otherwise, the circular reasoning is staggering. HTS is scum because SL is scum because HTS is scum? Lol. Dangerous way to look at things, that.
There comes a point in every fight where you just won't get anything else, at the end especially with the bresh i was hoping SL would just make up a read instead of repeating what he was saying as it is a general trap he could fall into. But he didn't, and i didn't think someone as spammy as him d1 should of been the lynch so town pile for the first day wasn't the worst move.
Whats their generally to be wishy washy right out of the gate? Most early votes are jokes or pressure votes, and to try to stay so much in the middle is still strange to me.
SL is just crazy, i think he might honestly be more insane then bats with all his "math" and weird associative reads. I could see him being scum but i wouldn't say i'm sold on that tinfoil hat yet even if i just said it for post game cred.
HTS is scum for readons including that and besides that.
I'm not going to declare that associate read till one of them flips mafia
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On November 30 2014 02:29 rsoultin wrote:
What's your case on meat, ls?
That Oats likes meat for it? Cause to me that is about as weak as it gets, if that's all you've got.
Damdred you're ignoring me. You shouldn't be ignoring me. Makes me cry. More to the point, ignoring me and not others to argue around in circles rather than answering a new question...This is not the first time you've dodged questions from me.
Not dodging was posting
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On November 30 2014 02:22 Half the Sky wrote:
Kush, two questions.
1 Why are you scumlisting Breshke? He claimed he was hit with RB. Are you counterclaiming? Has anyone?
2 Why are you scumlisting someone who has just entered the game? (Hopeless)
Alakaslam in my eyes was a pure policy lynch. And you said it yourself to me when you brought up DSMI. What prompted the change?
add HTS to the possible scumpile. These are potentially scummy questions.
1 PoE mostly. Scum could have held back or forgotten RB then used that opportunity to claim it. Or there could have been a town rber.
2 Nothing this slot has done has indicated towniness even a little. So what if he just entered the game? I'm pretty sure it's been more than 5-8 hours since he said this.
On November 29 2014 06:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
sry gotta go. will finish reading today, 5-8 hours max and then I'll be able to do stuff.
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eh nvm hts is off the scumpile just filtered him a bit
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What did you see that was so towny kush
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