EPT##vote kushm4sta
Yet another coding fail. -_-
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
##vote kushm4sta Yet another coding fail. -_- | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
1. On November 29 2014 09:07 Breshke wrote: Could you explain to me why if meat flipped scum you think it would mean bats is scum or if you have already explained this you can just quote the post. bats posting style was similar to meatpudding's posting style and if one of them flips scum the other in my theory would flip scum too but it just a theory I have that's all. 2. On November 29 2014 09:30 Half the Sky wrote: Also Lightning, can you describe what you perceive to be the scumlike behaviour for Batsnacks, given your revised list? I had read the case from our dead Tracker Trfel and it made lots of sense to me. First batsnacks was policy lynching kushm4sta at the start of the game and tried to push for his lynch but failed. Second after a comment by Oatsmaster on that we will lynch everyday after I suggested us to no lynch and went straight to Oatsmaster without much of real reason and then later on swaped his votes like 3 times back and forth between Oatsmaster and Dicksmash McIroncock then when Trfel questions him about why he changed his votes without much reason he then swaped his vote to Tfrel claiming it just easy to switch votes which screams null or scum but I know acted like this in his last game as a power role but since they are no power roles left but then again rsultin said that about me but I told him that I was over aggressive my last game and tried to play it more passive because I got lynched for being over aggressive in my voting and never played with no power roles alive and I was pretty much clueless on how to scum hunt good. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
im busy d1 is enough to prove me town | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
What is your case on kushm4sta because I willing to change my vote if you guys give me a better case than the case on meatpudding as I got both them as my top scum. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals: - first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs- - asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post - tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke - changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted - gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post) - jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks - calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred) - says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats - says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town - repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?) less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push? that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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meatpudding
Australia520 Posts
On November 29 2014 13:53 LightningStrike wrote: Before I go to bed I got question rsoultin,Breshke, and meatpudding What is your case on kushm4sta because I willing to change my vote if you guys give me a better case than the case on meatpudding as I got both them as my top scum. If it;s kushm4sta and meatpudding that are your top scum you should definitely vote kushm4sta. Outlined the gist of it in my first post. The silence factor is a big deal. By being read town, he had very little motivation to say anything. The fact that he was being read town after doing next to nothing was my second concern. I'm not sure that I want to commit to saying that he's working with a partner, but I am suspicious. His D1 read like scum to me. Same with D2. So before he started voting on D1 there was this kind of interaction. On November 25 2014 18:50 Breshke wrote: Got any reads you want to share kush? I don't really like sicklucker at the moment but i can't really express why. I don't get why people make these "traps" and then he has come to almost 0 conclusions from it. Like the trap in itself is not alignment indicative because he set it up before he knew his role but he seemingly got nothing from it and it was just an excuse because of his bad initial post. On November 25 2014 18:58 kushm4sta wrote: breshke, what was scummy about sicklucker I think moreso than that he set a trap, was that he used it as an excuse to omgus you. On November 25 2014 21:17 Breshke wrote: yeah i think what i was trying to say is the same as you kush. What did he egt from that trap/ What was he hoping to get from it? Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time On November 25 2014 21:43 kushm4sta wrote: Probably town because he's acting pro town but that's a weak read. Granted I haven't read the whole game yet. Basically Kush is posting without giving too much away. I think if he didn't have any reads then he could have just said that? Like he is feigning interest in the game maybe. His posts are half jokes and banter, where the actual content of his reads are just flat lists with no justification. Then out of nowhere On November 26 2014 01:39 kushm4sta wrote: ##unvote ##vote damdred with the corresponding explanation On November 26 2014 01:55 kushm4sta wrote: I'm caught up. On my phone. Scum pile Rasputin very little content. I remember what's there being scummy. ls similar to above in that i don't remember precisely why he's scummy. Damdred-stronger read His tone reads like a know it all. His arguments defending his shit pushes make no sense. Oats I changed my mind on this one having read everything. His tunnel on bat is so superficial yet he's not letting it go. So he voted because "he's scummy but I don't know why" and then after this is going onto dicksmash. Then he rolls over, says he's too busy with half a day left to go, but he's obviously still in the thread. This alone isn't such a scum tell. But if he is scum, as I suspect, then there's no way he gets a free pass by continuing to be afk. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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meatpudding
Australia520 Posts
On November 29 2014 18:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Kush isn't scum. Can you give an idea of why you think that? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 29 2014 18:59 meatpudding wrote: Can you give an idea of why you think that? It's so bad for scum kush to react like this to pressure. Because shit like what you guys are doing happens. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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meatpudding
Australia520 Posts
On November 29 2014 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote: It's so bad for scum kush to react like this to pressure. Because shit like what you guys are doing happens. Well yeah... but are you really saying that going afk under pressure confirms town? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 29 2014 19:19 meatpudding wrote: Well yeah... but are you really saying that going afk under pressure confirms town? No, I'm saying the shit he said makes him town. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 29 2014 06:39 rsoultin wrote: 1. People who aren't consistent. You ask them a question and it doesn't match up with their previous posts. 2. People dodging questions entirely even after they're asked multiple times. 3. People who breeze in, post some, then disappear again. 4. People who seem to be posting a lot yet I can't remember what they actually said, because that means their posts had no new or significant substance to them. Neither individual is helping the town agenda (both have promoted policy votes over scum votes for example). Looking at both Bats and Kush (as my current vote is on Bats) and using the above as a checklist for Kush: #1 - Check. I had pointed out the D1 argument on page 51, but why does Kush expect any of us to think that D1 makes him a townie? Reads with the exception of the one Kush did on his phone have been weak/unsupported. Bats' voting D1 was a problem, but the gap between voting Damdred and then jumping to DSMI is even worse given the arguments he used to try and sell that vote. He pushed that vote well before Damdred did. #2 - Check. Bats has dodged questions from three people this game (Oats, Breshke, myself). Kush isn't saying much of anything to begin with, but he dodged Oats on the Damdred read. #3 - Check. Kush is way more sporadic than Bats, Thanksgiving is forgiveable, but afterwards, even Bats hasn't afked. #4 - Check. At least I remember Bats for being overly defensive. Kush's filter on the other hand, I have had to filter dive three times in the last 12 hours. I'd say he's topped Bats in the scum category. ##unvote ##vote kushm4sta | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Can you explain what made you conclude Oats as townie? I'm not disputing it but want to see your thought process. You previously said this: Some defensive posting. seems to say a lot without saying a lot. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Updated reads after more filtering: SL and Breshke for sure town. Pretty confident about Rasputin too. SL been erratic at times but generally he appears town aligned. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 29 2014 22:18 Half the Sky wrote: Neither individual is helping the town agenda (both have promoted policy votes over scum votes for example). Looking at both Bats and Kush (as my current vote is on Bats) and using the above as a checklist for Kush: #1 - Check. I had pointed out the D1 argument on page 51, but why does Kush expect any of us to think that D1 makes him a townie? Reads with the exception of the one Kush did on his phone have been weak/unsupported. Bats' voting D1 was a problem, but the gap between voting Damdred and then jumping to DSMI is even worse given the arguments he used to try and sell that vote. He pushed that vote well before Damdred did. #2 - Check. Bats has dodged questions from three people this game (Oats, Breshke, myself). Kush isn't saying much of anything to begin with, but he dodged Oats on the Damdred read. #3 - Check. Kush is way more sporadic than Bats, Thanksgiving is forgiveable, but afterwards, even Bats hasn't afked. #4 - Check. At least I remember Bats for being overly defensive. Kush's filter on the other hand, I have had to filter dive three times in the last 12 hours. I'd say he's topped Bats in the scum category. ##unvote ##vote kushm4sta Dude what is this nonsense. Completely overexplained. Points are used superficially without thinking about the reason behind the points. This looks like a whole lot of you looking for scummy behavior to fit inside a checklist rather than looking for scum ##unvote ##Vote HTS | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
That said...if I understand you correctly, Oats, you're saying that the primary reason you don't think kush is scum is because he's not making the effort to not look like scum? Is that right? Your vote of HTS looks pretty reactionary (though I don't remember your 3 scum reads to be honest, so he might have already been reading scum to you), and frankly yes, I do not want to lynch town, with 2 already dead, but if kush is town why does he care so little? He doesn't seem like he's been trying at all the entire game. (Thanksgiving holiday I could take for the latter part, but the whole time?) | ||
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