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someone gimme a summary on whats happened so far
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##vote holyflare
just cos i can
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oh wait i need to paint this
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i'm bussing u HF :D
to get that sweet town cred :D
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no such thing as reasoning on day 1
u go with the chupazi lol
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what is this "tactic" evryones talking about?
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On November 20 2014 18:39 Holyflare wrote:
lian do something productive please
no. i aint reading through past shit. never helped me in the past and no one listened to me anyway so fuck it lol
i'm tunneling u for sweet town cred
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On November 20 2014 14:38 Chezinu wrote:
wtf is this vote for
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On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6nl9cSB.png?2)
really wtf is with the votes
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stop voting for bloody mafai i'm telling you to bus HF like we had that chat in the quicktopic goddamn it.
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On November 20 2014 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 16:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:56 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:52 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:50 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:49 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 15:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
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I'm not a hypocrite. There's a very STARK difference between what I'm accusing Hopeless of, making contentless posts to appear contributory, and what I'm doing, which is making a read on someone based on my observation of their play.
There's literally nothing mafia about what I've done in the thread so far, you're either butthurt about the last game or you're mafia. I'll accept either one, but I'm voting for Hopeless because he claimed mafia first. claims town -> hey guys this is my mafia meta -> does exactly what he says his mafia meta is. you can believe your read all you want, but seems more like you just waiting to take a shot at one of the early posters trying to get a cheap "gotcha" moment. whether that's from a town mindset or a mafia mindset at this point i am unsure, but i think as of now it leans more scummy to me. certainly more than anything anyone else has posted. you shouldn't bring up last game cuz then i will have to dig up your reads and we will see how little we should believe this read of yours. This is LITERALLY what you just did to me. I didn't "gotcha" anything about Hopeless, he did some things, and I explained why I thought they made him mafia. I didn't "catch" him doing anything. You're the one who is saying I'm mafia for doing this, and YOU are doing this. What does that make you ritoky? and i think your description of how you formulated a read on hopeless is the exact same process as to how i formed a read on you. doesn't really matter now though, i am less skeptical of you just making crap up after hopeless overreacted. Why do you say I overreacted? On November 20 2014 15:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well there's a vote for you and a link to your filter. That's case enough for me, for reasons I provided. If you WANT to, I GUESS you could answer MY points.
What value is there in "deciphering" chez's snowflake or figuring out what the blue thing is on Chez' first picture? I wanted to know what the painting was in the first one, and then wondered wtf the snowflake was about. On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Is that going to help you get a read on Chez? Not really. On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think it's more likely that you just wanted to appear contributory. You even throw in a "we" there talking about the special snowflake, implying that you're a part of town. "Implying?" What the fuck is this VE, you have no grounds to call me scum and yet already you're turning confirmation bias bullshit. bolded part is a massive overreaction to someone calling you scum for a shaky reason at best 1 hour in. to me overreactions imply a person has something to hide. He took an already shaky premise and twisted the word "we" into a scumread. That is fucking ludicrous and I will not stand for it. then advance the game in a more positive direction rather than just sitting there whining about it and being defensive? that falls in the OMGUS VE category. But you don't think I'm mafia Hopeless, and if you do that PROVES you're mafia. Because you're a good player and you know that this is how I play as town. As mafia I'm totally different, I lurk hard, and I come in with big posts and then play defense. That's my style, and that's how I win. OR lose.
what kind of logic is that lol
i think ur mafia, so i must be mafia too lmao
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On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote: really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?
stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions?
There is no reason to vote hope
the votes are bad
same thing
LOL
What was the point of your question mafia?
i change my vote
templar is mafai
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On November 20 2014 18:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah this has been pretty productive.
In summary:
I think Hopeless is mafia based on interactions/reaction.
I think Holyflare is mafia based on him defending Hopeless at a weird time (right after he reacts poorly to my pressure) for a weird reason (apparently feigning contribution to appear contributory is NOT scummy?), and under weird circumstances (he agrees that the reaction to his only other scumread is scummy). On top of everything else, he just keeps trying to discredit everything I do and say as senseless when I've been very clear about everything I've done this game.
I think Chez is town because he drew a very cool picture of me. Also he pointed out Hopeless and I agreed with him.
Rayn will explain his thoughts and then I'll give my read on rayn.
I have no idea what lian is doing. But he's voting for HF so we can be friends for now.
Templar's post is bad, but I don't think it makes him mafia. It's an awful big post and a lot of effort for mafia to go to. IF he's mafia then why does he make that post? Like, I'm not the lynch today in any world, ever. If he wants to fight me about that fine - but why does he do that as mafia?
Yes I've exaggerated a bit about how sure I am of my reads, but the reasoning is in the thread - if you disagree with it fine, just say why.
Yo Mafia is bussing each other like hard ons
ve hf hope templar mafia
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On November 20 2014 19:01 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote: really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad? stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions? There is no reason to vote hope the votes are bad same thing LOL What was the point of your question mafia? i change my vote templar is mafai Those are completely different. I am not active, because you said I'm not active, so I won't bother to answer your post now. Maybe if you remind me later I will
ur reacting like a mafia who's been caught red handed
u arent reacting to pressure very well = mafia
u are fucking off and ignoring what players say = mafia
temp[lar = mafia
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On November 20 2014 19:03 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote: really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad? stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions? There is no reason to vote hopethe votes are bad same thing LOL What was the point of your question mafia? i change my vote templar is mafai why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him?
LOL
what is there to read stop trying to over analyze everything
LOL
analyze me
LOL
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On November 20 2014 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm going to bed, liancourt seems scummy to me. I'd unvote ve but im on my phone.
fucks off and gives no reason why i'm scummy just flinging shit around = mafia
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On November 20 2014 19:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:07 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 19:03 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote: really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad? stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions? There is no reason to vote hopethe votes are bad same thing LOL What was the point of your question mafia? i change my vote templar is mafai why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him? LOL what is there to read stop trying to over analyze everything LOL analyze me LOL You know it's possible to catch mafia day 1 because of analysing, you've been in several games where mafia has been lynched day 1 because of actual analysis. So why are you telling people to stop analysing when it only helps to find mafia? You are being very very strange.
stop trying to lynch hopeless he hasn't done anything
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i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck
does this make me mafia?
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On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck
does this make me mafia?
i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck? i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded. and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary.
put ur money where u mouth is
i quivering in my boots
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On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:
So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.
VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.
I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.
liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.
Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player. I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.
put ur vote where ur mouth is
stop beating around the bush
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On November 20 2014 19:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:39 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck
does this make me mafia?
i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck? i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded. and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary. put ur money where u mouth is i quivering in my boots All you are doing is making the thread a worse place by antagonising people intentionally. Please stop or just claim mafia.
i thought i just claimed mafia in my first post
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i'm playing the be the biggest dick in the thread so that everyone votes me meta
is it working guys?
has my douche persona reached ur darling hearts?
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On November 20 2014 19:44 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:43 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:
So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.
VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.
I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.
liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.
Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player. I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant. put ur vote where ur mouth is stop beating around the bush I'm busy right now working on the LR for the Hot6ix cup. I'll vote later
all words with no back up
ur afraid to vote me first because u know i'm town arent u
mafia want to bandwagon their votes and u want to bandwagon me when there are a few votes on me.
My lynch hasn't gotten traction yet and ur making excuses to postpone ur voting so u dont look suspicious when u vote me
Everyone is shitting themselves because they really have no fucking idea what the fuck I'm doing and u are shitting bricks
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u dont even know whats so scummy about me
u just dont understand why i'm doing this so u vote me lol
no wait...ur voting me because i piggy backed on someone calling u salty
stop being salty and play the game
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On November 21 2014 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
I find funny that people are ignoring my scumread on both VE and Rayn. Lol
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On November 21 2014 08:48 GlowingBear wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cNwZl5N.png)
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i'm contagious 
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damn straight
i first accused you and now ur accusing me of things that are universally true.
not that hard to make a case on me lol
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maybe i already am, and i caught u
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On November 22 2014 14:22 Alakaslam wrote:^^ should have lynches this guy ^^ It always bites my anus to mistrust my initial impressions Hijole But this one has deep fangs
hijole
chupazi
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On November 22 2014 14:23 Alakaslam wrote:
Why killer had to disappear. At least say something.
I feel like I have both failed and been failed.
slam why are u trying so hard this game?
why arent u trolling with the chupazi and hijole?
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On November 22 2014 14:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Well this is a lesson
The one time I really actively push a lurker lynch with some cojones it bites them in the bloo
So activity really is not alignment indicative.
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Butthijole.
why are u beating yourself up?
you never do this slam. The most I see you write after a mislynch is
hijole!~ the chupazi was bad~
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i mean what does a guy have to do to get lynched on day 1 around here hijole~
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i even played scummy as fuck
i even lurked on the second day
do u know what this means?
I'm town because mafia (temp, hopeless) had votes on me but switched to killer.
Temp had votes on me at the beginning saying he was willing to switch to ve and thought that I was town and not playing the game. LOL Did he switch to ve? Nope. A pressure vote to make me play LOL Excuses Excuses No reason why I am scummy. Trying to look like he's actually doing something.
Hopeless came in at some weird ass time and randomly votes me with absolutely no reason at all. Then proceeds to switch votes to killer. LOL What was that all about? It's like your just sheeping temp for some reason. Are you playing the game or are you just playing sheep the vet game? Both scum.
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i have the power of the chupazi in my palms
and it says shoot temp
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ok so slam fucked off when i began to question him.
i'll add him to the scum list slam temp hopless.
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he always does that
asks questions tries to mediate shit
thats his town meta
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he doesnt do shit on day 1
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On November 23 2014 03:38 sicklucker wrote:
Your calling people scummy for not sheeping you but only liancourt sheeped you of 13 other players. You spent alot of time arguing about people not sheeping you .
Wtf
i was the one to call out temp as scum first
Ray sheeped me
Get ur facts straight
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On November 23 2014 04:36 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 04:16 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 03:38 sicklucker wrote:
Your calling people scummy for not sheeping you but only liancourt sheeped you of 13 other players. You spent alot of time arguing about people not sheeping you . Wtf i was the one to call out temp as scum first Ray sheeped me Get ur facts straight Your reasoning was horrible though, so you don't count.
Scum talk
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Discrediting me wont do you any good temp
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Sarcasm doesnt suit you well either
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ff salty after last game
looks like everyones salty after last game
did mafia both win last game LOL
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On November 23 2014 05:53 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 05:51 liancourt wrote:
ff salty after last game
looks like everyones salty after last game
did mafia both win last game LOL For SL and FF, "last game" ends in 68 minutes as it is LYLO there.
you reply to this but ignore everything else...scum
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because you are scum
i'm only stating facts
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you're ignoring content that is unfavorable for you to reply to...scum
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Are you trying to make an excuse to call me scummy again? OMGUS Deja Vu
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On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 00:50 The_Templar wrote:DamdredOn November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:On November 22 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i complained about thefact templar has\had no reads, YET HE DID NOTHING TO CHANGE IT!!
If you dunno who is scum you find that out, he didn't even try. That's the fucking point. I am amazed you can't see this and instead throw some crap on me. Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:On November 22 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote:On November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:On November 22 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i complained about thefact templar has\had no reads, YET HE DID NOTHING TO CHANGE IT!!
If you dunno who is scum you find that out, he didn't even try. That's the fucking point. I am amazed you can't see this and instead throw some crap on me. Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. Can you be a bit more specific? on phone so quotes will be limited Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going. You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process. so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.
Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.
Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy. Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case. Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active).
Why are you berating someone calling you town?
I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing?
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On November 23 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:11 liancourt wrote:
Are you trying to make an excuse to call me scummy again? OMGUS Deja Vu
Nah, I'm just pointing out the gaping holes in your arguments
what argument? I'm calling you scum because all you've done is acted like scum.
There is no argument. For an argument there needs to be 2 ppl in it.
You're not in an argument because you've ignored everything and didn't choose to reply to anything condemning towards you.
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really what are you doing temp? why are you berating damdred for calling you town?
You're making nonsense by trying to look like you're crtically thinking abou tthe game but all I am seeing is:
Stop calling me town damdred if you don't have any reasons
Really what are you doing?
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On November 23 2014 06:17 Chezinu wrote:
mod kill this guy cos he dont have keyboard
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On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 00:50 The_Templar wrote:DamdredOn November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:On November 22 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i complained about thefact templar has\had no reads, YET HE DID NOTHING TO CHANGE IT!!
If you dunno who is scum you find that out, he didn't even try. That's the fucking point. I am amazed you can't see this and instead throw some crap on me. Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:On November 22 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote:On November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
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Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. Can you be a bit more specific? on phone so quotes will be limited Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going. You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process. so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.
Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.
Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy. Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case. Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). Why are you berating someone calling you town? I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia?  It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it.
who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things!
voila~
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On November 23 2014 06:31 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:27 liancourt wrote:
really what are you doing temp? why are you berating damdred for calling you town?
You're making nonsense by trying to look like you're crtically thinking abou tthe game but all I am seeing is:
Stop calling me town damdred if you don't have any reasons
Really what are you doing? I'm proving that you aren't reading my posts
i'm proving all your posts are scummy
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On November 23 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:22 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:14 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 00:50 The_Templar wrote:DamdredOn November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
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Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:
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on phone so quotes will be limited
Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going.
You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process.
so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.
Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.
Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy. Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case. Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). I didn't just say Hey this guy is town and go about my day though, I said he looks better after reading his filter.Disagreed with rayn that you hadn't done anything up to that point when it was clear that you had been doing things and at that point HF said basically the same thing I did but you jumped on me instead of HF. Im not sure why its important that when a town read of mine isn't being lynched i need o continually post that they are town. I think ritoky is town does that mean when i'm posting cases or trying to i need to get that in? That whole part makes no sense you defend your town reads when its necessary otherwise you look for scum i'm not sure what you mean on that part. Agreed I wasn't terribly active was a rough week at work, I have reads but I generally hate lists posts and try not to make town cases overall I tried it and just don't like it. I asked HF questions to try to figure out his alignment and he really felt like I was pulling teeth but he gave his thoughts. I agree I didn't follow up with Rayn with his read on hopeless but I did give my thoughts on hopeless answer which was his answer was pretty bad in my mind. Questions help me find alignments and find motives behind whats being said and help me build reads. I went after you and not HF because you didn't do anything at that point in the game besides say "Oh, Templar could be town". HF changing his mind on me was also more important than you mentioning it because he actually made an effort to get people to unvote me, which sounds a lot less like a mafia trying to come in afterwards, saying "See, I told you he was town". You do not need to continually post that I am town, but instead give examples and say why. You can say it one time for all I care, if you explain what your reasoning is (with quotes!). Last paragraph: Fair enough, but I would prefer you giving your thoughts on the answers to your own questions more often than you currently are. Since day 2 begins on a sunday, I expect you to be contributing a fair amount more than you did in day 1 HF for most of d1 (I still love you HF) was extremely lazy and played like he was going to the dentist to get a root canal. I disagreed with some statements on you and you jumped on me instead of people who did the exact same thing... Your sentence about the mafia coming in afterwards makes no sense, if you had been lynched and I did that your example would make sense but since you did not it really doesn't as I get no such credit from you being alive?I did explain reasoning you disagreed with my reasoning and somehow feel like it hinges on quotes? It won't change the reasoning behind the townread at that point, i felt like the train of thought,activity, defense etc was towny. Sure i'll humor you and spam quotes next time but it won't change the end result. Bolded: I was likely to be lynched when you made those comments so it was relevant. It "hinges on quotes" because you haven't provided any specific examples of me doing what you say I'm doing. You're saying things without any proof.
What are you getting out of this as town?
Are you calling him scum? Are you calling him town?
You're berating him for calling you town...like wtf are you doing? This is absolutely unproductive and you're shitting out posts which look like crtical thinking to the untrained eye, but my god there is absolutely no content. You're arguing for the sake of arguing with damdred because it isn't hurting you. It makes it look like you're active and posting shit but it's so unproductive you are boring me to death.
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On November 23 2014 06:34 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:33 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 00:50 The_Templar wrote:DamdredOn November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
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Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:
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on phone so quotes will be limited
Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going.
You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process.
so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.
Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.
Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy. Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case. Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). Why are you berating someone calling you town? I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia? It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it. who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things! voila~ LOL, if it was hard for him to find good reasons to find me town then he would probably have not read me town.
what are you saying man? why do you think damdred called you town then?
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On November 23 2014 06:37 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:33 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 00:50 The_Templar wrote:DamdredOn November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
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Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:
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on phone so quotes will be limited
Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going.
You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process.
so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.
Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.
Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy. Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case. Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). Why are you berating someone calling you town? I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia? It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it. who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things! voila~ So glad i know how you truly feel about me now lian
no that was my douchebag persona talking
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On November 23 2014 06:44 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:41 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:22 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:14 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:
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Honestly your case is a whole bunch of nitpicky things that really don't add up to me being mafia in the grand scheme of things or hell they don't even make me scummy.
Your first couple of points against me basically amount to, he did not post enough words which btw is most of your case.
Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist. To move on when i clarified and what you call as i say you are playing the game isn't what it is at all. As mafia generally the train of thought is more fragmented and you can't really see how person got to point a o point b, you can somewhat see it and to me i looks like you are critically thinking about what you are doing. Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null. I'm no sure what it has to do that I stop talking about someone who is a town read when they aren't going to be lynched at that moment, this whole part doesn't make sense to me. I move from someone I think is own o someone who I think is pretty scummy.
My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with your last part, I wanted to make a case on sl I was unable to do so and when I was able to do so I did so. Its only an EXCUSE when you can't deliver on a promise, and not sure wha tyou mean about not doing things even though i'm around.... How do you know when i'm here or when i'm not.I was here after my case but the only people in the thread were ff who was on my scum read and Hopeless there really wasn't much to do at that point.
You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then? Overall i'm not exactly sure what you are doing here, it doesn't quite feel like a scum read and the conclusion feels like is missing... I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). I didn't just say Hey this guy is town and go about my day though, I said he looks better after reading his filter.Disagreed with rayn that you hadn't done anything up to that point when it was clear that you had been doing things and at that point HF said basically the same thing I did but you jumped on me instead of HF. Im not sure why its important that when a town read of mine isn't being lynched i need o continually post that they are town. I think ritoky is town does that mean when i'm posting cases or trying to i need to get that in? That whole part makes no sense you defend your town reads when its necessary otherwise you look for scum i'm not sure what you mean on that part. Agreed I wasn't terribly active was a rough week at work, I have reads but I generally hate lists posts and try not to make town cases overall I tried it and just don't like it. I asked HF questions to try to figure out his alignment and he really felt like I was pulling teeth but he gave his thoughts. I agree I didn't follow up with Rayn with his read on hopeless but I did give my thoughts on hopeless answer which was his answer was pretty bad in my mind. Questions help me find alignments and find motives behind whats being said and help me build reads. I went after you and not HF because you didn't do anything at that point in the game besides say "Oh, Templar could be town". HF changing his mind on me was also more important than you mentioning it because he actually made an effort to get people to unvote me, which sounds a lot less like a mafia trying to come in afterwards, saying "See, I told you he was town". You do not need to continually post that I am town, but instead give examples and say why. You can say it one time for all I care, if you explain what your reasoning is (with quotes!). Last paragraph: Fair enough, but I would prefer you giving your thoughts on the answers to your own questions more often than you currently are. Since day 2 begins on a sunday, I expect you to be contributing a fair amount more than you did in day 1 HF for most of d1 (I still love you HF) was extremely lazy and played like he was going to the dentist to get a root canal. I disagreed with some statements on you and you jumped on me instead of people who did the exact same thing... Your sentence about the mafia coming in afterwards makes no sense, if you had been lynched and I did that your example would make sense but since you did not it really doesn't as I get no such credit from you being alive?I did explain reasoning you disagreed with my reasoning and somehow feel like it hinges on quotes? It won't change the reasoning behind the townread at that point, i felt like the train of thought,activity, defense etc was towny. Sure i'll humor you and spam quotes next time but it won't change the end result. Bolded: I was likely to be lynched when you made those comments so it was relevant. It "hinges on quotes" because you haven't provided any specific examples of me doing what you say I'm doing. You're saying things without any proof. What are you getting out of this as town? Are you calling him scum? Are you calling him town? You're berating him for calling you town...like wtf are you doing? This is absolutely unproductive and you're shitting out posts which look like crtical thinking to the untrained eye, but my god there is absolutely no content. You're arguing for the sake of arguing with damdred because it isn't hurting you. It makes it look like you're active and posting shit but it's so unproductive you are boring me to death. I scumread Damdred and explained why, and now he's telling me why he's not scum. I don't really see a problem with this.
and yet u lynched killer LOL
very good work
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On November 23 2014 06:47 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:43 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:34 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:33 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 04:44 The_Templar wrote:
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Damdred, I'm saying that your soft reads of me as town suddenly disappeared entirely as soon as it was clear that I was not the main lynch target. You never provide actual examples of what you're talking about even though they exist.
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Attempting to think critically is not a town tell. That just means activity, which is usually null.
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My problem isn't just that you moved away from me, it's that you did so without ever explaining your ideas. When we asked for clarification, you were busy, so quotes would be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing those quotes now, though.
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You made a case on SL, which was perfectly good. A few minutes after you did this, you fished for comments on your vote and made a comment on someone's joke, a time period that lasted about 15 minutes, instead of looking at any of the 11 players that you've barely mentioned at all today. You asked for opinions earlier on a few people, so you definitely had some interest in them, so why didn't you care then?
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I'm reading you pink for hinting you had ideas about things (asking people about other people, reading me town), without specifying things for a long time, until you came out of the blue and scum read SL. I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really. Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly. I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking. I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked. Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). Why are you berating someone calling you town? I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia? It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it. who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things! voila~ LOL, if it was hard for him to find good reasons to find me town then he would probably have not read me town. what are you saying man? why do you think damdred called you town then? Because I did towny things? Damdred is scum because he called me town. But I did towny things so its ok for him to call me town but i'll still berate him
exactly
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On November 23 2014 06:49 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:47 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:43 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:34 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:33 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:07 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:
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I'm sill not sure what i'm supposed to do with a town read on someone when they aren' currently being talked about for lynch. Maybe i should of quoted more on you when I got home thats a fair point but their really wasn't a whole lot and i'm not really trying to make town cases really.
Eh, Activity might not be a total tell but being able to see how someone got to a conclussion can be towny and thinking critically while evolving along with the game to me is towny overall. Our opinons will differ I think in this as I think town generally evolves over time while mafia generally can only stagnate or have very fast shifts suddenly.
I'm not sure which parts you want quotes on though, your list post of reads while several people don' generally like it I don't mind a all in that context as you actually showed a few quotes especially about me that showed you were thinking.
I think we approach EoD very differenly, EoD to me is about pushing your TOP scum lynch not throwing all your reads into the thread to mess up what was going on. The activity at eod was generally very bad and my lynch target had three people and eiher everyone was asleep or not moving, so i'm not sure why my early d1 questions should impact me that i should go off someone who i think has a great chance of being scum and yes i menioned him before and HF actually talked about him for a bit which Iliked.
Really hard o defend yourself against really vague null stuff in your post. You're supposed to clarify your controversial reads, and just saying I am probably town without reason is never good. Just because someone's not in immediate danger of being lynched doesn't mean that you can't read them as town, even at EoD. Agreed that activity is important, but only in order to clarify your ideas. You didn't really do this, but you weren't terribly active either. I don't really have a specific approach to EoD but yours makes sense, I suppose. The early day 1 questions wouldn't be important, except you never followed up on them, which made it look like you were inflating your filter (trying to look active). Why are you berating someone calling you town? I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia? It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it. who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things! voila~ LOL, if it was hard for him to find good reasons to find me town then he would probably have not read me town. what are you saying man? why do you think damdred called you town then? Because I did towny things? Damdred is scum because he called me town. But I did towny things so its ok for him to call me town but i'll still berate him When I said I obviously meant That's just nitpicking me.
if you understand that damdred is reading you town because in his POV you did townie things then why are you berating him?
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On November 23 2014 06:54 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:49 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:47 Damdred wrote:On November 23 2014 06:44 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:43 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:34 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:33 liancourt wrote:On November 23 2014 06:23 The_Templar wrote:On November 23 2014 06:15 liancourt wrote:
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Why are you berating someone calling you town?
I know mafia sometimes defends town to try and look active while doing jack shit, but berating him for it...What are you doing? What, I'm not supposed to scum read everyone that calls me town and town read everyone that thinks I'm mafia? It's not him calling me town, it's how he's doing it. who cares? he's a bad player, he pulled this shit last game by hard defending town. It's hard for him to find good reasons to find you town because all you've done is scummy things! voila~ LOL, if it was hard for him to find good reasons to find me town then he would probably have not read me town. what are you saying man? why do you think damdred called you town then? Because I did towny things? Damdred is scum because he called me town. But I did towny things so its ok for him to call me town but i'll still berate him When I said Because I did towny things? I obviously meant Because, to him, I did towny things? That's just nitpicking me. So basically what your doin to everything I post? I'm not nitpicking your choice of words. Just provide examples where I did these towny things you speak of. Why is that hard?
you didn't do anything townie
it's like finding a needle in the pacific ocean
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On November 23 2014 06:58 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2014 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
you 2 are both arguing pointlessly, do something else I'm going to go eat something. You're right, this is 100% pointless
then wtf were you doing for the past hour?
scum
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you're avoiding everything that condemns you to scum
and reflecting questions back
i have been proving your scummyness
what have you done except berate damdred for calling you town??? hmm?
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so mafia seems to have won 2 of the last games. Town playing so bad. So much salt in the thread to be had it will
Hijole~
Shoot temp believe in the chupazi~
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I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum
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Exactly temps scum he only comes in when it benefits him
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I come in when i want
and i saw 2 egos having a who has the biggest dick contest
Why did u come in? Just to play with me cos u have a hardon LOL
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Wtf did medic do?
lynch temp
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Me rayn hf read temp scum
hf is dead. Temp scum
He knew hf could lead a lynch on him so he killed him. I betting some hfs reads were correct so they killed him. Hf and rayn were also saying that i wasnt a good lynch on day 1. Temp now wants to lynch me again and got rid of hf who was reading me town. Temp scum
lynch with fyre
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Temp fucking off midst allegation against himself.
bye scum
You always seem to fuck off when things get bad for you
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Ve rit rayn town
gb damd sl null
temp slam ff chezinu scum
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On November 23 2014 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got shot.
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On November 24 2014 07:00 The_Templar wrote:
Really liancourtyboy, it took you 17 hours to decide on lynching me?
low and behold you turn up when i post
you aren't trying to figure the game out, you are just deflecting whatever i say discrediting me by being condescending.
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On November 24 2014 07:08 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 07:04 liancourt wrote:On November 24 2014 07:00 The_Templar wrote:
Really liancourtyboy, it took you 17 hours to decide on lynching me? low and behold you turn up when i post you aren't trying to figure the game out, you are just deflecting whatever i say discrediting me by being condescending. yes, because there was so much going on that I should have been involved
you're so funneh I'm going to lynch you! hijole~
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On November 24 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 07:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Are you even reading the game, temp? No, I'm doing a project right now
scum excuses
lynch him
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On November 24 2014 07:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Please lynch slam.
Pls pls pls.
after temp dies
can u vote temp
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forgot rito was even playing
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On November 24 2014 07:52 The_Templar wrote:This also confused me. By the way, you only put red/green/blue names once they're confirmed.
I'll do as I please with my colour scheme thank you very much scum!
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"Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today."
@GB
Elaborate on how your scum read on temp evolved to a town read on him
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On November 24 2014 08:07 ritoky wrote:
@lian can you explain the chez mafia read? cuz i str8 up don't even know what that guy is doing.
i would put him in null but felt obligated to fill that 4 man scum cell
and he really hasn't done jack shit at all and if he thinks he can coast through playing god awful then fuck it I can read him as scum
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On November 24 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:05 liancourt wrote:
"Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today."
@GB
Elaborate on how your scum read on temp evolved to a town read on him
Ok. Motives I have scumread Templar1) He is too passive, he is not really pushing the game forward 2) He says he hates meta reads but posts a meta read and says it was on purpose (lol?) 3) He wasn't hesitating to town read me (or at least to be suspicious of me) when he knows I'm capable of look townie when I'm scum. 4) He is parroting some people at some times (parroted me on VE, parroted damdred on sick lucker) Motives I am now townreading Templar:1) He is putting effort in the game (he has one of the biggest filters, he is interacting and giving reads) 2) He is taking genuine stances (he parroted people, yes, but he posted reads trying to push town to a different direction when he felt someone is scum) 3) I'm an easy lynch for mafia. He is not trying to lynch me. Period.
This is a pros and cons list. I didnt ask for this.
I want you to tell me your thought process on how your read EVOLVED from when temp posted his case on SL and when you voted him scum because of it and what you were thinking when you were "pushing" him. Also on what you were thinking when you wanted validation on your being town by asking temp reasons on why you were town. And then your final thoughts upon making that list post calling temp town.
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On November 24 2014 08:47 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:37 liancourt wrote:On November 24 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 08:05 liancourt wrote:
"Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today."
@GB
Elaborate on how your scum read on temp evolved to a town read on him
Ok. Motives I have scumread Templar1) He is too passive, he is not really pushing the game forward 2) He says he hates meta reads but posts a meta read and says it was on purpose (lol?) 3) He wasn't hesitating to town read me (or at least to be suspicious of me) when he knows I'm capable of look townie when I'm scum. 4) He is parroting some people at some times (parroted me on VE, parroted damdred on sick lucker) Motives I am now townreading Templar:1) He is putting effort in the game (he has one of the biggest filters, he is interacting and giving reads) 2) He is taking genuine stances (he parroted people, yes, but he posted reads trying to push town to a different direction when he felt someone is scum) 3) I'm an easy lynch for mafia. He is not trying to lynch me. Period. This is a pros and cons list. I didnt ask for this. I want you to tell me your thought process on how your read EVOLVED from when temp posted his case on SL and when you voted him scum because of it and what you were thinking when you were "pushing" him. Also on what you were thinking when you wanted validation on your being town by asking temp reasons on why you were town. And then your final thoughts upon making that list post calling temp town. My read on him evolved while I started pressuring him. The question about me being town was important because if he said I was scum, it means he was keeping his options open. He read me as null, which is not good but it's not a scumread. Then I started thinking about these town traits he has. What I'm saying with that pros and cons is that I started reevaluating those traits
you know you're re evaluating him for the same reasons as you saw him as scum
and mafia can just as well say someone is town/null so easily and you take that action as him being townie
and he made a "bait" case on SL which is like saying "guys this isn't a real case I just wanted to see if someone would take the bait, don't berate me for having bad logic". WTF is this? And now he has no scum reads. HIjole~
I just can't understand how you can call him scum and then revert back.
It's like you wanted to prove to town that you could call him scum, but was afraid that it might get traction. And later when temp flips scum you can say you read him scum at one point.
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@temp
was your SL case bait?
You said you don't like meta reads and yet you did a case based on one.
And you make a "sarcastic" post saying gb found the flaw in your case. WTF is this all about?
Personally, I don't trust meta reads done by other people, but I trust my own meta reads on people I've played with before. I don't trust your meta read on SL. Unless other people can back up your meta read on SL i'm not taking that case into consideration.
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Ok i wanna know what VE, damd and slam think about temp.
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I like this post the most, and it's why I don't like meta-reads. People do change ideas, methods of playing, and the players they are playing against (and their opinions of them), sort of every game. I prefer to stay only inside the thread, so I'm ok with most of the reads on me so far. (Although I have a pretty obvious style of play as both mafia and town that I refuse to/can't change).
While this isn't particularly relevant, it's how I am viewing the game which is probably important if Rayn fails to lynch me today.
so temp ur saying this post was bait for the case on SL????
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look he's fucking off again under pressure while making scum excuses for his future absence
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At chez
So u come in after doing jack shit until now and wat u do is call me and ve scum for what now....
Color schemes...Lol
Are u even reading the thread or just looking at pretty lil pictures???
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guys focus
we are lynching temp today
i dont want any shenanigans.
There seems to be other candidates mainly SL and slam, but we can discuss them tomorrow.
Where are vote counts??
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have you given up defending yourself and trying spread disdain throughout the lands to make us paranoid scum?
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I think at least GB is trying to figure out the game, but i dont understand his townread on you. I agree with his slam read because slam hasn't posted any insightful posts thus far and he usually does even if it's that 1 post. He's been acting serious when the normal slam would have just hijoled it off. I'd lynch slam first then consider between SL and GB.
ofc this is all after we lynch temp first and foremost
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On November 25 2014 10:03 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 10:00 liancourt wrote:
have you given up defending yourself and trying spread disdain throughout the lands to make us paranoid scum? Yes, I have given up defending myself. It is a waste of time at this point and I'm cramming several assignments due tomorrow. "Spreading disdain" lol, this is a game of mafia. Any number of people can create an infinite amount of disdain on their own.
seeming as you're not giving any reads at all you're defo scum.
If you were town you'd at least give reads so that town could use those reads as reference.
You're like "fuck it i'm dying anyway, I'm not giving any info to town cos i'm scum"
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Stop this fucking shenanigans
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Slam chez ff temp
scum team trying to shenanie
Where the fuck is everyone else
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We kill temp today ffs wtf is going on
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On November 25 2014 13:17 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 13:16 liancourt wrote:
Slam chez ff temp
scum team trying to shenanie
Where the fuck is everyone else why am I the fourth name on your list and not the first
Are u fucking trollin me?
wat does order matter
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Wtf is this temp?
stop trying to cause shewanigans
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Put ur fucking votes on temp SL if u havent already
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Chez ff switching votes again after i return lol
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No we re not considering gb now
ffs keep ur votes on temp
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Not when ppl i scum read do it
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On November 25 2014 13:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 13:24 liancourt wrote:
No we re not considering gb now
ffs keep ur votes on temp why aren't we considering gb?
I said now
we can consider him after the lynch
I dont want fucking shenanies
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Keep ur fucking votes on temp
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Lol must have played good for once i got killed at night
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4 wins in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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At least i got chez and slam right mental victory
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