EPT1) why should i read you town?
2) if you are town, then there is 1 other town in the game outside of me, VE, and rayn; who is it?
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ritoky
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1) why should i read you town? 2) if you are town, then there is 1 other town in the game outside of me, VE, and rayn; who is it? | ||
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On November 26 2014 22:41 GlowingBear wrote: Lol you thought of protecting lian? Lololol. Anyway, what do you think of the others things I've brought to light? yes, there was literally a 1% chance VE died last night in my mind, then rayn was confirmed, and i had 1 other town read who was role bait for days. it was basically a coin toss in my head. chose wrong. as for your points, i am a little confused by you at the moment, might be because i am about to go to sleep. but you seem to be REALLY overcomplicating this. if you're town you need to find 1 town read out of the non-ritoky,VE,rayn players left and then the game is auto from there. as for my personal opinions on who the 2 other towns are i am withholding those until everyone pleads their case or at least has had a chance to. also i would like to be more awake and thinking properly. | ||
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is this a joke? like you're ccing vigi 2 days later, and you're claiming to have shot hopeless when you had a case on SL AND TEMPLAR as your top scums. why would you shoot hopeless instead of into either of your scum reads??????? regardless of your claim we are lynching chez and slam first because they are confirmed mafia. chez is not the medic, and slam is defending chez like he is the medic, which is crap cuz i am the medic. ALSO the fact that you cc this NOW rather than in your earlier posts in the phase makes me question it more. This is fucking LYLO, I am the medic, the role you least want to claim, and I claimed immediately. Why were you sitting there hiding? ![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/cc127afee6ab61ec9c012e485893f429.png) | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote: would have* but I understand. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HSZaTUz.png) if you're town you need to vote chezinu right now or you are confirmed mafia. | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:04 Damdred wrote: This would be a total suicide play by mafia here FF, mafia before hand knew that a vig would not claim while his second shot wasn't ready to go off so it gave them a bit of time and if the luger would of went through game would of been in a bad spot which is another reason I waited till now to claim. this isn't even true. mafia want to cause confusion, all you need to do this phase if you are mafia is fake claim vigi and confuse 1 townie to fuck up his vote and the mafia wins. it also sets up a scenario later in the game where a mislynch is a much more real possibility rather than having confirmed towns in the game. | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:17 Damdred wrote: Cause I wasn't at the computer, I am the vigi we should hoenstly kill VE today so I can shoot SL tonight tell me why you shot hopeless when you had 2 other well developed scum reads. and also tell me why chezinu is town. | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:19 Damdred wrote: I'm a bad player rit remember that and I don't know when to claim, this is first time i've been at a comp since night basically. I am the vig we need to kill off VE so I can shoot into my top three suspects, I know i've played like crap this game but i've wanted to fly under the radar. this is LYLO, and unless we lynch the roleblocker, it is LYLO again tomorrow. I am lynching the most likely mafia, which is slam or chezinu; if one of them happens to be the RB then the vigi situation will resolve itself (or NKs will resolve it) if not, then there is ample time to discuss it. so unless you give me a COMPREHENSIVE case on why you're vigi, VE is not, and VE is NECESSARILY RB, then i am lynching slam or chez | ||
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Are you claiming medic or not? Because you're not the medic. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure. Damdred claiming vig changes things, because he's confirmed mafia to me. So to me he's the best lynch today (guaranteed to hit mafia). But SL is right, we should be trying to hit the roleblocker. I think Damdred fakeclaiming makes him NOT the roleblocker - he has to know that me pushing for his lynch based on his claim is a possibility, so him being the roleblocker and making that action doesn't make much sense. I'd like rayn to explain why he thinks Chez is the medic...right now I'm voting for him based on that information, but checking it I can't find any kind of claim so I want to know what's up with that. Regarding the bolded part, we should definitely NOT make this our priority. We are in LYLO we don't have the luxury of being picky with which mafia we hit. We should lynch the most likely mafia. Period. If that person happens to be roleblocker, then that is great for us. If not, we are still in LYLO and haven't lost the game. So in that vein (outside of damdred who from your perspective is 100% mafia) who is the next most likely mafia? | ||
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i think chez might have been the RB based on damdred suiciding to divert the votes and how hard it was to get people to vote on a guy who is basically confirmed mafia. tomorrow i plan to read through the thread regarding the unconfirmeds and say who i think are the most likely town in the game since i am pretty much dying almost 100% of the time tonight. | ||
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From my pov, VE, rayn, and me are 100% town. Chez is 99.9% mafia, slam is 99.9% mafia (especially with that weird throwing shade on my claim post and hard defending chez all game for 0 reason) Which leaves us with GB, FF, and SL as a final 3 in a couple days. If we go down that path. So whoever is alive after this night phase of the confirmed towns should probably come to an agreement of whether you want this to go to final 3 with those people or you want to lynch into those 3 and make the decision while a confirmed is alive. FF and SL have both claimed to be roleblocked; FF on n1, SL on n2. Whereas during the dead period of the game GB was doing more to try and solve and push the game forward than anyone was. However my scum read on GB hasn't gone away completely for my previous reasons and also his "hey i think you're medic and rayn is confirmed town, but let's vote some1 other than chez stuff". But that might be cuz I am still in the tunnel a bit on him. SL being roleblocked on n2 has some merit because of this post: On November 25 2014 13:22 sicklucker wrote: I have no idea what just happen. Oh ya I forgot I can just save myself lol Where I think he half-softed medic. Which could have attracted the RB versus me who spent the phase typing in caps to GB. That said, I think if the mafia was going to piss away a RB and not rly use it, it would probably be going into that LYLO as to not give more info to the town. I disagree with VE and I think FF's claim of being roleblocked is probably more believable. First because there is pretty much 0 chance that the mafia elected not to use their RB night 1, it just makes no sense. If the mafia did use its RB, which is pretty much 100% likely, then there are 3 scenarios that occurred: 1) they RB'd FF, 2) they RB'd hopeless and VE shot him (unlikely) 3) they RB + shot HF (why would they do this? maybe luger used on HF and wanted RB on him in case failure? low likelihood). So in my mind FF's RB claim is more real than SL's as of now and thus FF out of SL, FF, and GB is the current most town of the 3. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:14 GlowingBear wrote: I've already posted on day Which isn't even that recent. Why the sudden lack of urge to solve the game? Damdred made some crap excuses as to why he was posting a bunch in other games but not this one and that guy was mafia. You doing the same? | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote: I am really sorry for signing up for this game when I obviously wasn't okay with playing any role I got. I will do legwork for someone (ie ritoky, ve, or rayn) if they like. Ritoky should I filter dive SL or GB? I could give a crack at slam or chez but slam is close to modkill and chez is like reading Egyptian hieroglyphics honestly you should do both. you know your alignment, it seems you agree that chez and slam are likely mafia, so the last mafia is one of those two from your pov. you should have a developed read on both as it is a possibility you're sitting in the f3 with them. i personally would start with SL since he claimed to be roleblocked and his filter is less dense to read. then move to GB. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:13 GlowingBear wrote: All I have to say I've already said, ritoky. I can't do much more. What do you want from me? do you think we should lynch into you/ff/SL while there are still confirmed townies alive? also, in your list post of town rankings, you had chez above BOTH FF and SL (even though both had claimed to be rb'd); and the only reason you had chez in mafia was because he claimed medic (which he hasn't fully stood by? cuz he hasn't done anything?). Why did you have chez above both of them? | ||
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On November 29 2014 11:10 sicklucker wrote: Its hard to explain to you because its really good for you as town or mafia. But by doing nothing we give you the hammer in final 3 by defualt and you have to decide between me and gb. Because gb is tunneling me hard. Anyway I dont really expect you to agree with me ff because the idea is to take the hammer away from you. I think either of you could be mafia. But gb only thinks I can be. why are you talking to FF like he is confirmed town? why does he get the hammer? if it is f3 with 3 question marks, it's on all 3 of them to figure it out, why is everything suddenly on FF in your eyes? anywayz to explain to FF why I am even entertaining the thought of lynching into the group of 3 versus the very likely mafia as an option is because there will be at least 2 confirmeds in the game next phase and at least 1 the following phase. that way you have a known town who can lead the discussion and the town votes. Also, as of right now I trust rayn and VE's judgment over any of the 3 of you in the context of this game. Essentially the upside of lynching into the group of 3 before all the confirmed townies are dead is that you have confirmed townies leading the votes and discussion and it is much easier to see dynamics. Basically you have people that you don't have to be skeptical of and you know for certain are scum hunting. The downside is that the group of 3 is the least likely to find mafia, and the sooner you do it the less information is available to those who are making the decision on that group. It's a personal CBA (cost-benefit-analysis) for all players and what they prefer, plus gauging reactions to ideas or seeing who ignores them entirely is simply more information to scum or town read people for. | ||
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On November 29 2014 11:35 sicklucker wrote: Ritoky answer me this. Do you honestly think Gb is still evaluating this game or is he playing his new game and happy to vote me off already. this is a loaded question cuz i am pre-disposed to think GB is scum just cuz i want to be right with my tunnel. that said, i think he did a lot of the same in the day phase and was analyzing the game, and not very much has changed since then as he stated. however he even though he thought i was the medic, chez was fake claiming, VE was vigi, and rayn was town; he was still very reluctant to vote chez....and he still hasn't explained why he read chez as a higher town than you AND ff; which i am waiting for but will probably die before i get. however he is not the only one with detractors, i think you have yours as well. i think your RB claim is weaker than FFs if I am comparing the two, and I remember damdred likes to bus as mafia. but then again literally everyone who is potentially mafia if you're town wanted to lynch you/called you mafia: gb did, damdred did, slam did, chez did, ff did. so maybe you're town cuz of that being too much bus? dunno as for FF, FF has the better RB claim, but the weakest filter of all 3 of you; but when i yelled at him for voting on VE he responded IMMEDIATELY which i liked. that's not really what you asked for, so the short answer is: there is very little going on in the game right now that is doing anything to shift anyone's reads on people in the game outside of you 3. so there isn't much re-evaluating happening as of when GB last posted. | ||
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On November 29 2014 11:43 GlowingBear wrote: I'm voting slam, I'm just sure you're mafia man. I've brought very far reasoning that you're mafia. I don't have more to say Ritok, the game is solved to me unless your medic claim is fake, which I doubt. If you want my reasoning, you can check my filter. Chez should be mafias target last night, not lian or sl. Chez is mafia. The only thing we have to solve in this game is who is fakeclaiming being roleblocked. As of right now there's 0 reason to vote slam unless he posts again in the thread. He is set to be mod-killed for not voting and basically turning into a ghost. | ||
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