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KelsierSC
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October 25 2014 01:42 GMT
#9
/in
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 10:48 GMT
#55
i wish i was on team huh rather than team leaver
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 14:52 GMT
#58
So I'm claiming medic d1, come at me

i will try not to fracture.my.ribs this game so i can shake my leaver tag
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 15:01 GMT
#61
Do you want what you get, when you get what you want?

just a riddle
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 15:13 GMT
#62
My filter already too large to be mafia.gg
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 15:26 GMT
#63
Start game Plox
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 15:27 GMT
#64
I think that kush twatsickle is mafia, lynch him. Huh huh
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KelsierSC
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October 30 2014 18:09 GMT
#72
On October 31 2014 02:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
y games no start T_T i want to kill people already

also holy shit kelsier is going on a streak


Just getting pumped son

BELIEVE IN THE CARDS!!!
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KelsierSC
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October 31 2014 10:48 GMT
#92
/confirm
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KelsierSC
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November 01 2014 18:14 GMT
#104
when are we starting?
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KelsierSC
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Last Edited: 2014-11-01 21:58:03
November 01 2014 21:57 GMT
#112
ah well
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KelsierSC
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November 01 2014 22:05 GMT
#115
is there a chance you can just do the roles now or is that too much
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 10:55 GMT
#123
oh man only played with two people in this game.

Going to do a bit of research on everyone now.

#tryhard
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#125
you picked jjajki?
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 16:12 GMT
#127
you lunatic
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 18:35 GMT
#130
yeh I picked Hyun to win the whole thing so I may have issues winning the contest
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 18:38 GMT
#131
There quite a few new players in this game?

I couldn't find previous games for quite a few of them.
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 18:47 GMT
#133
about 3 hours I think
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 22:05 GMT
#141
nice soft bro
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 22:20 GMT
#145
Yeh dude I'm all about that pizza life
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 22:21 GMT
#146
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!


why don't you figure out who mafia is then tunnel on them.
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KelsierSC
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November 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#149
BH be like "where the RNG at?"
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 00:11 GMT
#182
Ff is my first town.. Firstly explaining to sentinal about the bh being rng king. And secondly he went back and checked the possible set ups after kush made his pronouncement then he asked kush to explain himself. That is a guy putting in the effort to catch scum.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 00:15 GMT
#184
He asked Kush to explain how he came up with his gosu strategy because it didn't make sense, mafia tend to lie right.
just seems like ff is putting in effort which screams town to me
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 00:47 GMT
#189
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 00:57 GMT
#196
Yeh i disagree he is " clearly top town " you said he is making sense when all he has "seriously" done is ask me a stupid question.
just makes you look bad
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:00 GMT
#201
On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense


Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative.

Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that.


the difference between your posting and ff posting is black and white to me. Ff had good quality posts especially when he questioned Kush, that was really towny to me. Your posting is like silly little comments which look scummy to me
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:03 GMT
#204
On November 03 2014 09:59 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 09:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i disagree he is " clearly top town " you said he is making sense when all he has "seriously" done is ask me a stupid question.
just makes you look bad


Why don't you tell me why it makes me look bad and I might change my assessment. As is you're just discrediting me on zero basis.


you called breshke the top town for making the most sense and being serious.
neither of those reasons are true.
if i don't believe your read you look bad to me
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:16 GMT
#210
On November 03 2014 10:09 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 09:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense


Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative.

Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that.

Who do you see as at least somewhat town/scum right now and why?


I have Gack as leaning town for this post here.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Now, let's talk Kush. What's your leaning? Devious scummer or incompetent townie?
The answer incompetent mafia could also be acceptable.


He seems to be trying to lead the conversation away from the initial joking/trolling phase into serious discussion which i see as townie.

Also i have you has also lean town because i don't think mafia makes that post about having 1 from the newbie pile and two from the veteran pile. I don't think mafia would make this post as you would know your team setup and it would be weird for you to come up with that as mafia. This is a weak read.

Don't have much else at the moment.

Also im confused why everyone is jumping on batsnacks but not kelsier? Do people agree with kelsiers read on ff? How is explaining game mechanics hunting scum? How is pushing kush for not getting the setup right hunting scum when if he is mafia he is given the setup?


point is if ff was mafia he could just say "look kysh id trying to get roles out omfg" instead he went back to the op, looked at the setups and was like "a logical inconsistency, mafia make logical inconsistincies, kush your story doesn't make sense, explain" to me that is incredibly town.

also his question to hs was also excellent,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 01:21 GMT
#212
Breshke why would people "jump on me" because i town read ff ?

if you think I'm scum come out and say it but dont try and Just poke things about
"hey why is no one calling this guy scum" is always a scum tell to me
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 01:22 GMT
#214
I dont know about Kush yet.

i have a way of reading him that i cant get at this stage
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 01:23 GMT
#215
I don't think his strategic revelation/retraction matters too much. But i just like the way ff responded to it
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 01:28 GMT
#217
On November 03 2014 10:24 batsnacks wrote:
So you want to clear FF because you think he actually read the thread. As opposed to kush who claimed he read the thread and then made false conclusions from what he read?

Does that mean you think kush is mafia or do you just think FF is town because he can read?


hmm i just explained all of this.

ff had to actually go back to the op and do some thinking about set ups and then come back and ask Kush. He also made a good post to sentinel about rng. Furthermore since the read his question to you about sentinal being an afterthought about not making sense...even though he is your main example of not making sense is an excellent one.

i dont think kusha play was alignment indicative as i said earlier
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 01:31 GMT
#220
Yeh breshke so in my opinion the way ff went about things it wasn't like he tried to make Kush look bad. It was more of a "i want to understand / explain your reasoning" it felt very town.
if he wanted to make Kush look bad he could have been a lot stronger something like "Kush wants roles to out!"
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 01:33 GMT
#221
I think breshke is pretty town now as he wants to actually understand my read now and isn't just trying to undermine me.p

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 01:40 GMT
#224
Yeh that's a good place to vote imo
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:45 GMT
#226
Feels like a bats trap
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:53 GMT
#230
## Vote Superbia
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 01:59 GMT
#236
Ive got like 4 reasons why he is scum fyi
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:01 GMT
#238
Is Kush still in the thread?
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:07 GMT
#241
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 02:08 GMT
#243
I hope i stay Chelsea forever
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 02:17 GMT
#246
I think if you see someone acting scummy and you have faith in your own reads that isn't scummy tunneling. My first game on here i pushed hard on the cop for 3 days but i had legit reasons.

but saying. Put your name forward i will tunnel you is just saying. I'm no use this game in not figuring things out dont include me in any vote logic. That is bad tunneling
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 02:19 GMT
#247
Basically super needs to come back tomorrow and totally retract from.his tunnel bullshit and bleed town from his ears.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 02:22 GMT
#250
Holy shit lightning strike have you just been lurking this whole time.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:26 GMT
#255
K well catch up.with the thread and give some other reads
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:37 GMT
#266
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:41 GMT
#269
On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


well a lot of new people are in the thread now and none of them have talked about Kush, my read on ff, sentinels post about the mafia distribution.
just surprised that a lot of people are just throwing the vote out and not really talking about other things.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 02:44 GMT
#272
## unvote

too many people have just voted on this and done nothing else.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 02:46 GMT
#274
Bats you think one or more mafia just voted on super there?
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 03:01 GMT
#279
So i want other people , particularly new entrants to give reads on the early players in the thread.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 03:04 GMT
#281
Sentinal can you give reads on what has happened so far. Give me reads i. Myself, bats, ff, frak and bresh to start with.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 03:16 GMT
#284
Grak are you in the thread, give me anything
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 11:28 GMT
#300
Anyone in the thread right now?
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 11:32 GMT
#302
nice, I came back to the thread today expecting to have to read through a bunch of stuff but the activity level here is just terrible.

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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 11:34 GMT
#303
So after bats and I voted a bunch of random people showed up and voted aswell without even discussing the rest of the thread.
Which of them do you think could be scum?
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 11:37 GMT
#304
Like right now my town list consists of 3 people, I decided to add bats to the list because his game feels similar to the last time I played with him and he has been pretty active and getting an early vote in.

town - Breshke, FF, bats.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 11:51 GMT
#306
I want to talk about Grak

Last game I played with him he was really jokey and happy at the start and he brought up some good reasons why other people were town and most people just town read him straight away. At the beginning of this game he does have some fun with his grak trap business etc.

I like the way he tried to analyse kush, he asked people to talk about him and then brought his own read to the table which again feels town.

He has done some things I don't like though. I don't see why he is so eager to really go and hard defend super. I don't really think I have seen grak do that before.

Also this kind of thing bugs me

On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


Pointing out something is "strange" but then not following it up at all. So is imma mafia or what?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 11:57 GMT
#307
for bats I like his gameplay involving super, that felt strongly like town bats from last game. Also his attitude, "a kind of IDGAF what you say i'm right" feels like town bats again.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 12:03 GMT
#308
I'm going to add imma to the scum list.

Firstly his entrance is to sheep my read and have a poke at bats.

On November 03 2014 10:07 Immaterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense


Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative.

Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that.


the difference between your posting and ff posting is black and white to me. Ff had good quality posts especially when he questioned Kush, that was really towny to me. Your posting is like silly little comments which look scummy to me


I agree with this assessment... I've also been sketched out by batsnacks for a while. Among other things, he indicated that he was suspicious of FF ("FOS FF for explaining the obvious") for making what I consider an entirely reasonable post.


Then he disappears until voting time. when he comes up with this.

On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.


Like the main reason we are voting superbia is because of his tunneling stuff so if you don't understand it why are you voting. Seems like he is trying to fit in. Like yeh everyone is voting this guy I had better vote too.

Then he comes up with this.

On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.


Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts?


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote:
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread


Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.


Then he comes up with this which is again just sheeping the read I gave and also feels like TMI. Like did superbia actually sow chaos and confusion. He made his post then fucked off. It wasn't really confusion.

I also just don't like the way he has played so far at all. He hasn't questioned anyone or given any reads. This is true for a lot of people though.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 12:08 GMT
#309
you asked me about elvis I don't really know how to read him but apparently others have experience with him so I will probably see what others make of him.

Right now. I actually like that he didn't vote on super.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 03 2014 12:13 GMT
#310
RIght I need to go and do a bit of work for a few hours.

Right now if you are vanilla town you have a duty to actually show yourself to be town don't just lurk. Ask questions and try to figure out the game.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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November 03 2014 13:56 GMT
#320
If a bunch of people town read grak i will probably town read him, if people are unsure on him then he is probably scum
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 15:50 GMT
#333
How the fuck do you get that superbia is trolling now after some really solid posts
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 15:52 GMT
#334
I'm surprised anyone reads me as scum tbh.

ny initial read on ff was actually very good for a d1 read. My points on you were valid i had gone and looked at your past games. Ive also instigated discussion and given a lot of reads already so that kind of worries me.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 15:55 GMT
#335
Also none of my logic was faulty so not really sure what you are talking about.

at least you are trying to play the game now.

your reason for reading sentinel as mafia is just fucking awful.

you say "Eric makes sense" well he said making initial posts matter is stupid. So why does sentinels initial post matter?
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 15:58 GMT
#339
For d1 yeh it was a good read.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 16:04 GMT
#343
Eric is Elvis.

Elvis said initial posts dont matter, you thought Elvis was making sense. So why does the initial post of sentinel matter enough to make him scum.

maybe he agrees to the tunnel because you lookked scummy start of day. Why is sentinal the top mafia over the other people who voted on you?
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November 03 2014 20:09 GMT
#350
On November 04 2014 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 22:56 KelsierSC wrote:
If a bunch of people town read grak i will probably town read him, if people are unsure on him then he is probably scum

Can you explain this to me?


Last game I played with you when you were town lots of people managed to read you as town quite early.

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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 22:25 GMT
#362
i am here elvis just trying to get a read on you
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 22:44 GMT
#367
probably donkey town. I have no idea how to read him at this point.

I would be happy lynching him right now though.
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#371
Kind of like elvis as town for today.

He has produced some pretty good content today a big point in his favour is that he didn't vote on super yesterday when the wagon started, he said he wasn't sure and felt uncomfortable with it, that felt kind of towny to me.

since he has started making his reads I pretty much agree with all of them, I want him to give a read on Grak though. I think he has been active enough to be readable.

I think the way he answered breshke's questions was good.

I quite like his sentinal read. Like when I voted on super it was more because I wanted something in the thread to happen and get things going, and like 3 people just kind of said "yeh good point, ima vote" looking back alot of my argument was kind of shitty.

yeh elvis is town for the day
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 23:04 GMT
#374
On November 04 2014 07:59 Grackaroni wrote:
lol KSC looking back once more, what do you think of your FF read?


Best read NA

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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 23:16 GMT
#382
I cant read Kush yet

i like initial analysis grak did on why he is probably town for his "non doc should claim strat"

right now I'm happy with this town list - bats,breshke,ff,elvis,

as for.my scum i like the read that Elvis has on sentinal. Also sentinal has spent a lot of the game discussing mechanics, set ups and strategies which is like a good way to try and appear helpful to town but doesn't actually help.

ls and imma are really unhelpful would lynch

reading Kush and grak later. I'm still unsure on super but leaning town i guess.
need lurkers to talk
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KelsierSC
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November 03 2014 23:34 GMT
#388
I liked his question to bats about how sentinal was like an afterthought for people not making sense. Again it seemed like he was paying close attention.

he did enough for me to town read him d1 , not guna lynch him today
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#445
On November 04 2014 22:16 Serejai wrote:
Either Sentinel is scum or Elvis+Fecal are scum.

Still leaning Elvis because of how much he contradicts himself.

Starts off calling out Superbia because "Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum".

Then once Sentinel says the same thing, Elvis suddenly flip-flops and says "so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy... Okay I guess." in sarcasm and proceeds to call Sentinel scum.

I come into the game with a troll post as well and, once again, Elvis does a complete flip-flip and suddenly trolling = obvious scum again.

Don't know how you guys play online mafia but this is pretty cut and dry mafia play for IRL games.

I would put Bresh, Grack, and Sentinel as town at the moment because they're the only ones that seem to notice some of the sketchy posting by Elvis. Lightning is null to me; he may post scummy but surely if he were mafia his teammates would step in and help improve his posting - unless they are intentionally trying to throw him under the bus. If Lightning gets lynched and turns town we should probably look at the people who were pushing for him (coincidentally Elvis is at the top of that list).


I don't see how elvis called superbia out, he was one of the few that decided to wait and see what he does.

You haven't done anything at all this game apart from troll and lie about elvis so you are really sketchy

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November 04 2014 14:59 GMT
#446
i don't even know whay ls is doing apart from sheeping everyones reads
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 15:02 GMT
#447
so right now

need cricketer to talk obviously and want to see what kush does.

I would lynch between seraj,imma,ls maybe sentinal.

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 15:04 GMT
#448
although the latest post by imma was quite good.

especially where he was reading into the elvis post.
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November 04 2014 15:06 GMT
#449
imma you have a lot of leaning town/leaning scum/sketchy.

who would you lynch right now? like who is your top scum read?
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November 04 2014 15:09 GMT
#451
On November 05 2014 00:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So let's look at his returning post:

On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!

The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.

Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"

Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Making reads based on people's reactions to events is much easier when you're involved in said events. It eliminates one of the variables.


So let me get this straight, you accepted precisely because of this reason? And you planned this within 5 minutes?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Fecalfeast -
On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.

At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.

If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.


Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.

We're pushing more for a reaction from you, if anything. Just as a way to get you to come out, shrug off any suspicion that doesn't belong, and then proceed as needed. It's the beginning of the day - any votes this early are most likely going to be changed as needed.


Why are you answering for FF? Why do you presume to know what his goal is? This only makes sense if you know FF's alignment.


I like that read actually.

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 15:12 GMT
#453
Pretty happy to lynch ls to be honest. His whole argument on elvis was just trash and untruths
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 16:31 GMT
#459
On November 05 2014 00:28 Superbia wrote:
Does grack usually traffic cop as town d1? Anyone know?


agree it is fucking weird.

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 17:40 GMT
#470
On November 05 2014 01:58 Serejai wrote:
I think I'm biased towards scum like you.

You start off the game with Superbia:

Show nested quote +
I'm voting Superbia because I think he is the scummiest player and deserves to be voted.


You stick hard to this even after everyone else jumps off him. It's not until I call out Elvis that you suddenly switch your vote and start tunneling on me. In fact, you ask Grack who he would rather lynch between me and kush. He tells you kush and you completely ignore it and continue to tunnel on me while also telling everyone to take their votes off Elvis.

Kind of strange that after I call out Elvis as scum you and Fecal both come out of the woodwork and start tunneling me + posting about how innocent Elvis is. Before that neither of you had posted much of anything in the thread.

Gonna stick with you three being the scum team.


probably because your elvis read was awful
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 17:42 GMT
#471
sera can you explain what town agenda grak is pushing?
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November 04 2014 17:46 GMT
#473
sentinal if you had to pick between elvis and sere who would you vote on?
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November 04 2014 17:53 GMT
#474
bats how do you read grak right now?
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 17:54 GMT
#475
hello?

anyone alive?
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 18:01 GMT
#478
guna take super off the lynch list today.

I like this post quite a lot
On November 05 2014 00:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So let's look at his returning post:

On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!

The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.

Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"

Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Making reads based on people's reactions to events is much easier when you're involved in said events. It eliminates one of the variables.


So let me get this straight, you accepted precisely because of this reason? And you planned this within 5 minutes?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Fecalfeast -
On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.

At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.

If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.


Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.

We're pushing more for a reaction from you, if anything. Just as a way to get you to come out, shrug off any suspicion that doesn't belong, and then proceed as needed. It's the beginning of the day - any votes this early are most likely going to be changed as needed.


Why are you answering for FF? Why do you presume to know what his goal is? This only makes sense if you know FF's alignment.


I like that he is beginning to question grak, a lot of people have given him soft town reads, i don't really know why.

with regards to his tunnel ticket...i imagine he decided "I am going to run this play" and in his mind the person who took it would be mafia. I think he should get off that particular thing but the other line of questioning to sentinal (mostly about him answering for ff) is pretty good and feels town.

Not top town but not going to lynch today,
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November 04 2014 18:04 GMT
#479
On November 05 2014 03:01 batsnacks wrote:
Leaning town on grack. Our reads are slightly different on some things (Elvis) but I agree with stuff he's said. He appears to be pushing a town agenda. No chance of me voting him over others.


yeh not going to lynch him today, just last game he gave off strong town vibes early and I don't get that this game.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 18:07 GMT
#481
On November 05 2014 03:05 batsnacks wrote:
KSC did you mean sentinel when you said grack? I don't see grack anywhere in that post.


those were two seperate points.

i meant to quote the bit where he said "does grack normally traffic cop"

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 18:09 GMT
#482
## Vote Cricketer12
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 18:12 GMT
#485
On November 05 2014 03:12 batsnacks wrote:
Stop that ninja shit I hate that


fucking lol
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 19:01 GMT
#500
On November 05 2014 03:27 batsnacks wrote:
KSC if voting cricket isn't an option, who do you vote?


serajai

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#525
On November 05 2014 04:45 batsnacks wrote:
Got em

##unvote
##vote: LightningStroke

Chelsea come be my friend and vote with me


bats traps too strong yo

##unvote
##vote: LightningStroke
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:24 GMT
#565
why does he claim detective when the roles are cop/watcher/doctor

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#569
btw LS I am the real detective so if you really think you have been townier than me we can try to 1v1

or if you are truly town then just resend and we can move on
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:31 GMT
#581
you can just rescend lightning it would actually be quite towny of you at this point
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#585
On November 05 2014 05:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I got the pm as Detective nothing more nothing less I had to figure out that it was really Cop.


that makes no sense

it is cop, not detective
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:37 GMT
#589
Breshke what the fuck you think I am mafia and he is the real cop?
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:39 GMT
#594
but why would BH have sample PMS for cop and watcher, and then send you one saying you are detective
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November 04 2014 20:39 GMT
#596
On November 05 2014 05:39 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 05:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Breshke what the fuck you think I am mafia and he is the real cop?


Nah im sure you are the real cop, check kush for a red check tomorrow thanks lets just hope you live


annoyed that kush didn't actually participate because I had a sick way of reading him d1
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:42 GMT
#598
unfortunately I either die tomorrow or get role blocked so.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:42 GMT
#601
On November 05 2014 05:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Detective and Cop were the closest I got name wise for meaning so educational guess name and meaning :|


Like you aren't even looking at my posts or trying to show I am scummy, it is like you know I am telling the truth.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:55 GMT
#614
On November 05 2014 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
basically due to the closed nature of this game, LS is now a terrible lynch because his alignment can be confirmed at lylo.


i'd be down for a sentinal lynch as well.

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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 20:57 GMT
#616
I like that post from Kush though, I think he is town
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:02 GMT
#620
yeh so for sentinal,

Early game I made the point he had just come up with a load of mechanical stuff which is an easy way for someone to fake being town


I like this point that super brought up about him

On November 05 2014 00:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So let's look at his returning post:

On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!

The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.

Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"

Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Making reads based on people's reactions to events is much easier when you're involved in said events. It eliminates one of the variables.


So let me get this straight, you accepted precisely because of this reason? And you planned this within 5 minutes?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Fecalfeast -
On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.

At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.

If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.


Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.

We're pushing more for a reaction from you, if anything. Just as a way to get you to come out, shrug off any suspicion that doesn't belong, and then proceed as needed. It's the beginning of the day - any votes this early are most likely going to be changed as needed.


Why are you answering for FF? Why do you presume to know what his goal is? This only makes sense if you know FF's alignment.


Then you look at the way he voted,
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:37 GMT
#684
just got back from food.

Why do people think I am faking claiming, I am the cop, LS should just rescend
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:39 GMT
#690
LS hasn't even tried to call me scum or point out scummy things I have done. He has given up.

On November 05 2014 06:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher.


Yeah but as scum he would know that and wouldnt claim cop because if he is scum cop claim was probably to bait a CC

I was actually thinking the opposite. That they know there is no cop and can claim it freely when on the chopping block for a free day.

I think he executed it poorly, though.

I not a scum and I really don't know what set up it is to tell you truth. I just scared as crap :|


scared so you fake claimed the role?

if you claim town now that is fine
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#696
On November 05 2014 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
just got back from food.

Why do people think I am faking claiming, I am the cop, LS should just rescend


Let me get this straight. You are hard claiming cop?


did I not give that impression before?
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#700
if people think I wasn't hard claiming why the fuck are they voting LS lol
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November 04 2014 21:48 GMT
#709
I'd be down for a sentinal lynch tbh

##Unvote

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel
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November 04 2014 21:49 GMT
#715
On November 05 2014 06:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:48 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd be down for a sentinal lynch tbh

##Unvote

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel

WHAT IS GOIUNG ON>!?!#E!?@%RT?@
m


shenanis
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November 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#721
##Unvote

##Vote LightningStrike
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November 04 2014 21:52 GMT
#724
On November 05 2014 06:52 Superbia wrote:
KELSIER WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?


shenanis
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November 04 2014 21:54 GMT
#731
ls last chance to rescend your claim
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November 04 2014 21:56 GMT
#735
well if that is the case then BH fucked up badly
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 21:57 GMT
#738
btw im not the cop so you should probably unvote from LS and vote imma or sentinal, both would be good lynches
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November 04 2014 21:57 GMT
#739
##Unvote

##Vote Immaterial
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November 04 2014 21:58 GMT
#745
On November 05 2014 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
btw im not the cop so you should probably unvote from LS and vote imma or sentinal, both would be good lynches

Why did you claim


shenanis
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November 04 2014 21:59 GMT
#747
besides no real counter claims here confirms the dude as cop and so mafia probably voted on LS
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November 04 2014 22:03 GMT
#761
plenty of time to switch over there,

imma and sentinal mafia team awesome
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November 04 2014 22:03 GMT
#766
On November 05 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
Afk voting Chelsea tomorrow for killing the cop.


aha get fucked you are the one who random voted sera at the end there rather than actually saving the guy
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November 04 2014 22:04 GMT
#768
also bh fucked it up if he gave the guy the detective role.
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November 04 2014 22:06 GMT
#773
On November 05 2014 07:05 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
Afk voting Chelsea tomorrow for killing the cop.


aha get fucked you are the one who random voted sera at the end there rather than actually saving the guy


I'm phone posting asshole I didn't know what the vote count was. Still afk voting you.


ok look at the votes, if I am mafia I switch off the guy who I know is cop and potentially allow someone else to be lynched?

use your brain, you random vote sera instead of imma which could actually save the cop

imma, sentinal, bats scum team gg
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 22:12 GMT
#783
On November 05 2014 07:08 batsnacks wrote:
KSC if you are town that is literally the worst play I've ever seen and you should be ashamed. But you're not because town doesn't kill the uncced cop.


I didn't believe the claim at all because he had played scummy all day , given terrible reads and then claimed "detective" which isn't even a role.


I was trying to draw out the bluff. I rescended my claim in plenty of time for people to change votes and no one did.

your mafia bats.
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November 04 2014 22:12 GMT
#787
On November 05 2014 07:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote:
plenty of time to switch over there,

imma and sentinal mafia team awesome

Did you ever finish your case on me or was it two sentences long?


i gave a case on you twice dude.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 22:13 GMT
#788
On November 05 2014 07:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote:
plenty of time to switch over there,

imma and sentinal mafia team awesome

Did you ever finish your case on me or was it two sentences long?


I can also add the fact that you didn't switch your vote off of LS.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 22:16 GMT
#792
3 minutes is plenty of fucking time. are you real?

there were plenty of people in the thread. still are
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 22:16 GMT
#794
On November 05 2014 07:15 batsnacks wrote:
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On November 05 2014 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:08 batsnacks wrote:
KSC if you are town that is literally the worst play I've ever seen and you should be ashamed. But you're not because town doesn't kill the uncced cop.


I didn't believe the claim at all because he had played scummy all day , given terrible reads and then claimed "detective" which isn't even a role.


I was trying to draw out the bluff. I rescended my claim in plenty of time for people to change votes and no one did.

your mafia bats.


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On November 05 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
btw im not the cop so you should probably unvote from LS and vote imma or sentinal, both would be good lynches


You gave us less than 3 minutes dude. I have no choice but to vote you. You should understand this as either alignment.


except i unvoted from LS , the cop, and gave everyone a chance to lynch someone else.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 22:18 GMT
#797
three minutes was plenty of time

nice attempt at a bury though, your mafia
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 22:47 GMT
#822
On November 05 2014 07:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On November 05 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Im going with KelsierSC as a town here. He may have blotched it and got the cop killed but you can see what he was trying to do. I dont think he does this as mafia it makes no sense. The cop came out so theres no reason to do a high risk play to get him killed

I mean, he got the real cop killed and wasted a lynch. It's a start.


lol ok , where did you vote again?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#830
Alright I need to sleep but just going to put some stuff out there to think about.

Firstly, yeh I counter claimed the cop, Basically I didn't believe the claim and I wanted to draw out the bluff, He had played scummy all day, and he got the name of the role incorrect, I thought he might resend or concede. when no other cop came forward and he mentioned he had asked BH about the "detective" role ...I admit I got cold feet and bailed out of it.

Secondly a few people have come out after the votes and tried to bury me, despite the fact that everyone had time to change their votes, they didn't speak up before the vote but now suddenly they are incredibly vocal. (sentinal, bats) you all had the chance to change your votes but you didn't.

They also say I am now very scummy, obviously you thought I was town enough to believe my claim. if you can point to something else that is scummy then that is fine. But no one even questioned my claim so.

This series of votes was very telling, essentially you can look at people who had the chance to save LS but didn't. at the moment town probably feels down but we got a hell of a lot of information from those votes.

essentially I feel pretty sold on a bats, sentinal scum team. I'm not sure about imma because obviously he wouldn't vote himself but his play has been scummy enough by itself to get him 4 votes.

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KelsierSC
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:02 GMT
#831
On November 05 2014 07:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On November 05 2014 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Im going with KelsierSC as a town here. He may have blotched it and got the cop killed but you can see what he was trying to do. I dont think he does this as mafia it makes no sense. The cop came out so theres no reason to do a high risk play to get him killed

I mean, he got the real cop killed and wasted a lynch. It's a start.


lol ok , where did you vote again?

I don't regret my decision. I didn't believe you. I was wrong. But LS seemed full of shit to me and that's how I voted. It's just like mislynching any other VT anyway, since he would've been useless due to roleblock


you didn't believe me but you voted on LS? he would have been un cc'd cop to you then
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:07 GMT
#836
also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:09 GMT
#839
On November 05 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:
I know I /squelched but this stuff KCF is writing... I can't believe either alignment or anyone would ever think this.

Seriously. SERIOUSLY.

You -seriously- think that by fake ccing cop, as town, and then rescinding your claim less than 3 minutes before the deadline, that you were helping town?

In the world where you were town, please explain how this helps us.


/squelch

am i funny now?
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:10 GMT
#844
On November 05 2014 08:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On November 05 2014 08:07 KelsierSC wrote:
also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him.

If we have a watcher, scum would know. And if we have a watcher, that means there's no doctor. Meaning they can just kill him off since confirmed townie.


yeh and whoever visits him the watcher can see it. is mafia kill a visit?
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KelsierSC
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:11 GMT
#846
On November 05 2014 08:10 batsnacks wrote:
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On November 05 2014 08:09 Breshke wrote:
Someone explain to me what KSC has to gain from counterclaiming cop as mafia when they would have had a roleblocker anyway, why take that big of a risk. I agree his recend was late but i stand by that i never actually believed him and i had time to change my vote and didn't.

Bats once again i ask why you unvoted straight away after he claimed.

So you think this guy is scum you have started a bandwagon on him. Then he claims cop and you immediately unvote. As town you would have suspicion of a fake claim as he was claiming to save himself. So why didn't you leave your vote and pressure him. That play doesn't add up.

I think KSC is town and im leaning scum on bats.


I unvoted lightning when KSC claimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?

I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?


you unvoted before I claimed if I recall
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:15 GMT
#850
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=28

isn't this you unvoting after LS claimed but before I claimed.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:18 GMT
#856
On November 05 2014 08:17 Grackaroni wrote:
meh I'm going to read the thread now and see what I find. This isn't the end of the world. KSC you shouldn't have fake claimed.


yeh you're probably right but at the time it felt like a good play.

Got lots of information from the votes though,
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:21 GMT
#858
On November 05 2014 08:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 08:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 08:07 KelsierSC wrote:
also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him.

If we have a watcher, scum would know. And if we have a watcher, that means there's no doctor. Meaning they can just kill him off since confirmed townie.


yeh and whoever visits him the watcher can see it. is mafia kill a visit?

I didn't think of that. Are you going to call me scum for being fallible?



no I don't think that is the reason you are scummy.

one of the main reasons you are scummy is apparentlybecause you didn't believe me, even though you never bothered to question my claim and were happy to lynch the un-cc cop because you believed he was claiming a role that you thought didn't exist. Then despite saying absolutely none of this during the votes you come out immediately afterwards and call me scum and put all of the blame on me for getting LS lynched.
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KelsierSC
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#860
On November 05 2014 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
I actually, when Kelly first CC'd, was thinking it was to call out a bluff since he said "recend it's the town thing to do" or whatever his actual phrasing was. I was fucking IN ON THE TRAP at that point. When you came back and pressed the issue further, I thought for sure you were really the cop.

I hates you right now kelsier.


yeh I probably should have just resended when he didn't backt down

I just got too hung up on the "detective" thing and the fact he didn't even bother to throw scum on me,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#862
I'm sorry to town there it was probably a misplay in retrospect and I should have resended earlier but we got a lot of information from the votes.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:26 GMT
#864
and a final thing to show I am town and let us move on.


IF i am mafia.

I know LS is the cop because I know the set up, so why do I then resend off him and potentially allow someone else to be lynched instead of the cop.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:27 GMT
#866
I blame BH for giving out a role that wasn't in the OP
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:28 GMT
#870
On November 05 2014 08:27 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
and a final thing to show I am town and let us move on.


IF i am mafia.

I know LS is the cop because I know the set up, so why do I then resend off him and potentially allow someone else to be lynched instead of the cop.


NOPE


mafia knows the setup dude.
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KelsierSC
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November 04 2014 23:30 GMT
#873
On November 05 2014 08:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
and a final thing to show I am town and let us move on.


IF i am mafia.

I know LS is the cop because I know the set up, so why do I then resend off him and potentially allow someone else to be lynched instead of the cop.


To play devil's advocate here:

You know the setup so you know there's no watcher. He gets lynched and you killed cop, win for scum. Everyone shennanies onto a town and you RB him all game for an effective "double-kill"


fair point I guess.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:34 GMT
#880
ok I need to sleep.

read through what I said, I misplayed by not rescinding earlier, aplogies to town and LS for that, I was convinced from LS claim to about 5 minutes before the vote that he was fake. but I have played a very town game before that, I brought up some excellent points post vote and we have good information now.

especially with the way sentinal has played immediately before lynch and after the lynch, guy is very scum.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 23:39 GMT
#884
I'm sorry bats
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KelsierSC
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November 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#956
I think grak has become my strongest town.

not sure about breshke or Elvis anymore, they could be mafia.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#958
Split vote like that usually means that one of the two was mafia. I'm pretty happy voting imma off tomorrow.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#959
Does anyone have a weird view on grak or is he town for everyone?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#960
New guy feels town aswell
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 16:41 GMT
#965
Sera you were second in votes at the time so bats probably thought if he switched then you would be the lynch instead.

actually makes sense if you believe his phone story.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 16:43 GMT
#966
but I don't believe his story that he didn't know the votes had changed, he was pretty active in the thread and didn't lots of people voting on imma.

I think bats is better than that.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2014 23:01 GMT
#990
Nice was unsure of grak so just read him as town so mafia would shoot him.

same reason i called breshke and Elvis mafia. Was hoping mafia would avoid then. I think breshke and Elvis are my top town.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 06 2014 08:26 GMT
#1074
Im busy at work all day but will be in the thread for a long time about 7hrs from now.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 06 2014 08:36 GMT
#1075
I am glad people are coming round to seeing I'm town who just had a misplay.

I'm not sure what the fuck fecal was doing with his.

"you got cop killed you mafia" which is just incredibly lazy , he unvoted and seems to be putting in more effort now though.

with bats i am really not sure. The way he voted looked scummy right but if I believe hr still thought sera was the second highest then it actually makes him the towniest of everyone, he could of just not moved the vote , again why give other people the chance to vote imma and not kill the cop. His anger at me and tunneling in me right now also feels very towny.

I'm convinced sentinal is mafia. I made a case for him scummy D1 mostly how he talked about mechanics a lot and then his vote on super. Then you look at vote on ls. He didn't believe me at all but still voted on ls, the un-cc cop from his pov. Note he didn't say anything or question me in the run up to the vote but as soon as the vote was over he was very vocal in trying to bury me with a lazy thought process.

imma is probably mafia due to the split nature of the vote and his play has been very scummy overall. I'm not sure of the 3rd mafia but Kush is a possibility at this point. Indid research on him before the game and he didn't make any town tells d1 and his filter is small which is indicative of his mafia play.

tldr - scum team - imma,Kush,sentinal
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 06 2014 15:41 GMT
#1077
Ok back In the thread for a good while now

On November 06 2014 17:59 Breshke wrote:
Kelsier are you still around? Can you run me through why you CC'd LS and why you held onto your claim until you did. Basically like a rundown of your thought process through that event. For example there was one stage where you unvoted then revoted LS what was going on there?


so basically I explained already, but I didn't believe the LS claim at all and I was essentially trying to draw out the bluff, his play after the claims was pretty bad aswell and it kind of struck me that he had given up, essentially I was kind of convinced he would flip scum, then scum thinks I am the cop and I can take a bullet/roleblock.

but basically when he started talking about bh had told him detective = cop and no one was really questioning my claim and no one wanted to wagon onto sentinal with me I got cold feet and rescinded.

As to the unvote/revote. That was basically me trying to see if anyone would wagon with me on to Sentinal, no one did. interesting huh.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 06 2014 20:28 GMT
#1086
was cricket ever a serious option, I never got that impression
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:10 GMT
#1208
On November 07 2014 09:19 Breshke wrote:
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On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes

Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late


Just want to point this out for you bats but i think his vote was like 75 minutes before deadline and this was still when KSC was a cc. It also feels that he is saying he isn't going to be around until later.

I am also coming around to KSC being scum because he hasn't done anything today. even though there is more people to blame today than just him he was a big part in lynching the cop yesterday so you'd think as a town he would be hunting scum today to try make up for it but so far most of what he has done is just respond to my questions.

I still think Kush is a priority for today though.


I gave an analysis and gave my 3 man scum team.

I'm filter diving toady and will give some reads
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:14 GMT
#1209
On November 07 2014 07:52 Serejai wrote:
I don't think there's really enough posting done by kush to make a case against him, other than "his scum play is bad and he usually afks when scum". I mean, that's a good reason... I'm just saying he isn't posting enough to really have other reasons against him. I think he's scum but I would lynch him for AFKing sooner than I would lynch him for being scum, if that makes sense. It's hard to come up with multiple different cases against him.

As far as reading people who have become less active... not so much. I've been on Elvis all game, and I've been on Immaterial nearly all game. For me, nothing has really changed with either of them. However, for all of the people that thought they were town on Day 1... I'm pointing out that they should reconsider based on how their play, or lack thereof, has changed.

For kush I don't think much has changed for me; his play is consistent(ly bad). For Sentinel, he was very active early game and now he's barely around at all now that people want to vote him. Essentially those four people I listed are all acting scummier today than they were yesterday, to varying degrees. Those are the four people I think we should look at lynching today, and focus our efforts on reading and whatnot.


No mention of sickcricket


On November 07 2014 11:05 Serejai wrote:
##unvote

##vote sickcricket


fucking lol

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:20 GMT
#1210
going to go ahead and move bats to town.

I don't understand the "elvis is mafia" thing, He has been really active through most of the game, and honestly has anyone here been making loads of posts? Like one of the main arguments I see is "his play has dropped off"...look at sentinal, imma. All have done the same thing but they aren't being looked at.

Sere and Super, what do you think of elvis and sentinal, I also want reasons for why you think they are town/scum.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:23 GMT
#1211
I also think bats is town for now. He still seems focused in on lynching me but I don't think that is mafia indicative. his indignation seemed genuine and I like the way he has been reading the game d2 and he reads elvis the same way I do.

The only thing I have to call bats mafia is the votes but I'm going to believe he didn't know imma was the other vote leader, in which case all he has done is play town.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:28 GMT
#1212
ff is also a question for me now.

Since the votes went down he has been incredibly inactive, he just made the lazy posts

"you killed cop, you mafia" yeh well you voted on him too, it just looks like a shoddy bury.

Since then he hasn't posted anything of substance or followed up any questions.

After he voted on me, he then comes up with this
On November 06 2014 12:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of course if there's a doctor it changes the whole situation and I believe kelsier is town.


why am I town now? Or is it just because you saw other people realising I am town.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 07 2014 09:30 GMT
#1213
So here is my updated list I guess

town - bats,elvis,sc,breshke


null - sere,super,ff

mafia - kush,imma,sentinal

essentially I think town is kind of dividing into two teams right now and I need to place sere,super and ff in those worlds. then I can probably make a decision on which world is scummiest and lynch the whole lot.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 24 2014 17:55 GMT
#3614
im blaming mod for the PM that had town detective as the role.

Annoyed I forgot to vote as I think I could have won that game, I had two mafia figured out in sentinal and kush.
Anyway sorry I fell asleep and missed the vote, was a fun game though.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 24 2014 18:13 GMT
#3615
overall my thoughts were that it was nwher near active enough,

if you are town you have to try and project yourself as town. Too many people just lurked and said nothing
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