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On October 30 2014 08:54 kushm4sta wrote: 1) Serejai huh 2) Breshke huh 3) Elvis! huh 4) KelsierSC leaver 5) Immaterial huh 8) Batsnacks oh no 9) kushm4sta only decent player signed up 10) Grackaroni fackk 11) FecalFeast incoming headache 12) Superbia don't remember what this guy's like Fantastic, amazing, courageous Kush killer? What an intelligent description of my play! I couldn't agree more. | ||
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On November 03 2014 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote: Do you honestly think BlazingHand, the god of RNG himself, would alter the results to balance the game around player skill? This is the guy who has, in his personal ruleset in the model OP thread, " I am not afraid to ruin a game of mafia for 10 people and 4 hosts just to modkill someone." There is no way I will believe BH purposefully made the game less random. BH definitely RNGed otherwise I'd be mafia hue hue hue But yeah that's not a very good assumption | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote: bat traps™ too strong This setup is semi-closed? AHA! As you can see it was in fact sentinel who had set the groundwork for FecalFeast's egregious scum slip (over explaining the obvious) with his comment here: On November 03 2014 07:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm going to guess we have 1 scum from the first seven, one from the last six, and one somewhere in there. Probably also in the latter six since 10-3 is a town-favored setup. thus it was a fake bat trap! You sir, have been Grack trapped. The flimsiest trap of all..... | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:23 batsnacks wrote: I'll take credit even when credit isn't due. Don't even try to deny it Oatsnacks, you've been caught red handed. Might as well yell wildly until everyone suspects you. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:34 batsnacks wrote: I'm afraid I don't have it in me right now. Maybe we could talk about Superbia and his big promises instead. I'll go 3:1 odds that Superbia does not deliver. Nah I don't like those odds. On November 03 2014 07:27 Superbia wrote: Congratulations on signing the contract! We will begin the tunneling process during business hours (i.e. Monday), as the company is officially closed during Sunday. Good night! He seems like a pretty lazy tunneler to me. Procrastinating until tomorrow and far too friendly towards his future client. If it was Raynpelikoneet I'd take that bet. | ||
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The answer incompetent mafia could also be acceptable. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well, he's assuming there's a doctor here: He is indeed assuming there is a doctor here! He also seemed oblivious of the fact that mafia are guaranteed to have a RB. One thing I feel mafia never does is plan out posts like these to try to get the cop to claim because they are so concerned with not drawing suspicion towards themselves. I think this makes Kush more likely town. If he is mafia and unaware of a RB, getting a cop to claim is actually bad for his team. If he is aware of a RB he's less likely to suggest a stupid plan that draws attention to himself. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:53 batsnacks wrote: "getting a cop to claim is actually bad for his team." You townread kush so getting a cop to claim is bad for town. What did you think of these posts in that case? I don't think anything of either of those posts | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote: Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that. There's nothing wrong with sheeping as long as you're sheeping the right people. Of course you should try to solve the game, but usually there are some people who just have a better idea of who is mafia. | ||
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On November 03 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote: scumlean on super for the most obvious reasons ever but I can elaborate if they don't seem obvious to you. scumlean on batsnacks for ignoring my questions and for saying people who don't make sense are scummy while not making sense himself. No town as of yet, everyone else is null. I'd like to hear the reasons for the scum lean on superbia. I don't see any reason why he is scum. | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote: In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so: ##vote: superbia As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange. This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy? | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote: My reasons for super 1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town. 2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game. 3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1. 4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread 1) I think it's pretty clear that he wasn't actually planning on doing nothing but tunneling a random person for the rest of the day. He wrote some trolly posts at the start of the game; there's not much we can read into that he's only made 2 posts when nothing was happening. 2) Same as #1. Those posts don't actually mean he's going to tunnel. We all enter differently; Some people are super serious from the start. I like to troll at the start of games. 3)This could be a good point. If he shows a pattern of writing trolly posts at the start of games as mafia and being serious as town then that would be the start of a good meta argument. 4)He's from the Netherlands. I assume he went to bed. | ||
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On November 03 2014 22:56 KelsierSC wrote: If a bunch of people town read grak i will probably town read him, if people are unsure on him then he is probably scum Can you explain this to me? | ||
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On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2014 13:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Trolling is distracting in its nature because people react and it creates a chaotic situation favorable to scum instead of everyone trying to find out who the scum is. You (and bat) I'd give you two towncred for your presence in the thread. You're both arguing your points (the motivations of kush, etc.), progressing logically, and incorporating new information as it comes up. That's pretty good town play and solid considering we're working with a single-digit number of actual game pages at this point. This doesn't incorporate into my read on batsnacks much (namely because he's one of my top two towns at this point), but I've frequently seen scum give themselves subconscious townie points by helping the mods since it looks like it's done in the name of clarity. Him offering the filters/important posts doesn't seem like scum covering themselves up though, because he's so active without the offerings, but if he drops off in later days it will be something I factor into my consideration. FF Null. Not sure if this is a joke but I kinda felt like he was jumping the gun here: Otherwise, nothing to report. bresh Null-town. Contributing where he can. He does bring up a good point here: But I think the wagon on Superbia isn't anything to be worried about if he is in fact town. A lot of people are simply waiting on him to show up and offer some new evidence, and if I like what I see when he wakes up, I'll drop my own vote as well. Grack I like his open-mindedness: but I would like to make note of his self-admission to trolling at the start of games. I'd rather wait and see what he does before making a decision. Elvis Null-scum. I don't really like his aversion to getting into the game: and particularly his aversion to the few points of discussion we have at this point: He calls the entire discussion fluff, and then summarizes the game up to that point. (For the record, and for the final time, I read everything properly, I just read the "random" part with a grain of salt because, again, I host rigged "random" games on a regular basis and my first instinct is to compare knowledge of this game with my own knowledge.) And it seems like he's nervous to get into the game, but also like he's trying to participate but avoid contributing, if that makes sense. Probably the scummiest out of the active players, but with a few lurkers left and with kush and Superbia leaving the thread, that's not saying much. so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages. I would like to see your reaction now that Superbia showed what this was all about. You pushed Superbia a lot more serious than others and are yet to retract your vote. I still don't see Superbia's post as particularily scummy, apparently he's known for being a bit like that and I'd much rather say the people endlessly talking about his post did inflict more chaos than he did. Good thing people stopped doing that now. For me, you lean scum atm. I don't read Sentinel's posts the same way as you do. How was he the most serious person to push Superbia? He sheeped KSC's reasoning while stating that his read will change based on what Superbia posts tomorrow. He hasn't even posted since Superbia came back to thread (i.e. he couldn't retract his vote), so I don't understand how you came to this conclusion. On November 03 2014 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Makes sense. I'll put my vote on him for now ##Vote: Superbia At least until he comes out and defends himself. If he's lazy town (evidenced by "I'll do it tomorrow"), I don't see the rationale in saying "step right up and I'll build a case on you" in the first place. | ||
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On November 04 2014 06:53 Elvis! wrote: I would like you not to turn words around in my mouth. I never said the most, I said a lot more than some others, since some people just were like "I like the case vote superbia". Also, not posting doesn't mean he hasn't seen it yet AND some people (I'm positively looking at you, chelsea) retracted when they realised it wasn't useful, BEFORE superbia even posted. Even if he really at that point didn't see it yet, he still had it at least until then, even though people agreed way beforehand that it's not a topic that will find us scum. Of course the scenario exists, where he posted his last post, went off, didn't look at anything until some time after superbia posted. But this is mafia, people usually read it a lot if they're clever, be it mafai (thanks superbia) or town. the wording most vs a lot more than others doesn't really matter to me and doesn't change my question. You are specifically scum reading sentinel because you don't agree with the Superbia case and you think he was pushing it harder than others correct? It seems to me that you've just taken one quote out of context and are using it to form that scum read, since a lot of Sentinel's filter shows Sentinel not being a lot more serious about scum reading Superbia than others On November 03 2014 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Makes sense. I'll put my vote on him for now ##Vote: Superbia At least until he comes out and defends himself. If he's lazy town (evidenced by "I'll do it tomorrow"), I don't see the rationale in saying "step right up and I'll build a case on you" in the first place. On November 03 2014 13:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: But I think the wagon on Superbia isn't anything to be worried about if he is in fact town. A lot of people are simply waiting on him to show up and offer some new evidence, and if I like what I see when he wakes up, I'll drop my own vote as well. | ||
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I want to see you really dissect some posts. Did you like his points on Sentinel? Inmaterial? Lightning strike? Did you like that he had the same town reads as you? | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:09 LightningStrike wrote: Summary of stuff what happened when I left: People unvoting Superbia and people are thinking Elvis is mafia but others do not and were making arguments for and against Elvis. Sounds interesting! What do you think of those arguments? FF just wrote out a long argument for why Sentinel is scum. Do you agree with his argument? | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:15 Fecalfeast wrote:  I wrote it for you, do you agree with my argument?No I don't sorry. On November 03 2014 13:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Elvis Null-scum. I don't really like his aversion to getting into the game: and particularly his aversion to the few points of discussion we have at this point: He calls the entire discussion fluff, and then summarizes the game up to that point. (For the record, and for the final time, I read everything properly, I just read the "random" part with a grain of salt because, again, I host rigged "random" games on a regular basis and my first instinct is to compare knowledge of this game with my own knowledge.) And it seems like he's nervous to get into the game, but also like he's trying to participate but avoid contributing, if that makes sense. Probably the scummiest out of the active players, but with a few lurkers left and with kush and Superbia leaving the thread, that's not saying much. I agree with what Sentinel said here about Elvis' entrance, which is what Breshke said as well. Everyone else entered the game trying to contribute their reads. The first thing Elvis did was complain about everyone focusing on Superbia's trolling and add that he can't get any reads because of it. But he could have just questioned people to get reads like everyone else. I think this is scummy behavior and it's something that I have done as scum. ("I have no reads because nothing has happened yet. Everyone else's arguments so far have been bad" - while making no effort to try to get something to happen) I disagree with Superbia's point about scum being more likely to take him up on his tunneling offer for the same reason I disagree with Superbia being scummy for his tunneling comments. Once again I think it was pretty clear that Superbia wasn't actually going to tunnel somebody so Sentinel is just joking around at the start of the game in the same way that Superbia was. I don't mind the host wifom at the start of the game. Actually I kind of agree with what Breshke said about leaning town on him for mentioning it - (as in it's a weird thing for him to think about if he is on a team with 3 people not sorted that way, and he wouldn't want to mention it if he was on a team that followed that distribution), but it's a thought that probably occurred to him pregame. The one point I agree with you on is that the series of posts talking about Superbia aren't important for Elvis' alignment since they were in a very short timespan. I don't really see a strong agenda though of him trying to lynch Elvis for those posts. | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:30 Elvis! wrote: Putting fecalfeast on leaning town atm, since his posts are funded, he got his information, points things out throughoutly and has legit arguments. Will go to sleep now, don't know when I'll post again. Some time during uni tomorrow, ETA 12 hours. Will defo make a decently big post before EoD and some smaller ones before that. Maccaroni, so now that some people have posted opinions on several suspects, what's your: most scum / view on the recent posts. I was really hoping for you to answer the question I had left for you earlier. On November 04 2014 07:39 Grackaroni wrote: the wording most vs a lot more than others doesn't really matter to me and doesn't change my question. You are specifically scum reading sentinel because you don't agree with the Superbia case and you think he was pushing it harder than others correct? It seems to me that you've just taken one quote out of context and are using it to form that scum read, since a lot of Sentinel's filter shows Sentinel not being a lot more serious about scum reading Superbia than others Do you still feel that Sentinel was more serious than others in pushing Superbia and that he is scum for it? | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:19 Serejai wrote: IS THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAID ABOUT HIM? Please say yes. No it's from my brain. I liked what you said though I looked at your filter first and then switched to inmaterial | ||
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On November 04 2014 20:09 Elvis! wrote: @Grackaroni Sorry I must have missed your question, I thought it was answered with my posts already - so here we go: One point what I thought was scummy was exactly what you said. To be fair, some of this push was to pressure to get him to answer. I couldn't know that he didn't have time to answer / retract the vote, so I thought him not posting again is intentional and strenghening the power if his push. It might still be, mafai can lie about not having time, but atm my leaning scum read is more based on ff's push, since he also did after all retract his vote (which doesn't mean too much, considering noone else is voting on him anymore). Oh right this post - I'm going to go back to this again. I feel that your initial scum read on Sentinel was forced and mischaracterized his play. First your reasoning was that sentinel is scum for being more serious than others about pushing Superbia, which you felt was a bad case. I showed that Sentinel this wasn't the case. Sentinel wasn't more serious than others and, in fact, made it clear that he would change his vote based on Superbia's future posts. Your other big point for a scum lean was that Sentinel could be intentionally not removing his vote, thus he was more serious. Why didn't you suspect Batsnacks for that same reasoning? Bat snacks was more serious than others about voting Superbia at the start of the game (he didn't say any of the things sentinel did about how he would change his vote, and he told KSC to vote Superbia) and he also still had his vote on Superbia when you made your post. Basically, I don't understand why you felt Sentinel was scummy from the reasoning in your post. That reasoning fit bat snacks better than Sentinel; It seemed to me like a forced scum read to try to get the pressure off of you. | ||
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I feel Mafia would try to blend more - which is why I think Immaterial would have been a better lynch. I didn't like Immaterial's initial vote and after that he wrote out a long post with no real content in it and disappeared. In that long post Immaterial seemed more interested in showing to everybody that he was thinking about the game (he included all of his thought processes for each of his reads even when they led to no conclusion whatsoever) while LS just said whatever he was thinking at the time. | ||
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On November 05 2014 09:45 Elvis! wrote: How can you blend in more than posting stuff other people posted? that was his thought process though. People called him out for his posts and he kept doing the same thing. Just look at the frequency he posted compared to Immaterial. He seemed eager to give his opinion while Immaterial did not. | ||
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On November 05 2014 00:35 Superbia wrote: Sentinel: - Was your agreement to the tunnel a joke? - If not, why did you agree? If you wrote your initial posts as a trap why didn't you ask this question before announcing a scum read on Sentinel? | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:58 Fecalfeast wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=21#416 On November 05 2014 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: good case. scummy misrep on elvis. ##unvote ##vote sentinal So there's only a 2 minute difference between when FF"s post was linked and your vote. Did you actually read the whole thing, including the posts of sentinel that were quoted, or did you just skip to the end and then type out a vote? I really don't think you bothered to read it. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:19 Serejai wrote: IS THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAID ABOUT HIM? Please say yes. This is a townie post. A lot of his posts are quite townie really. Don't lynch this guy. | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:54 Elvis! wrote: is just being WIFOM. You can't know. Keeping to do the same worthless 3-4 liners is not town behaviour. You can't be serious and say he tried just because he had many posts, his posts were reposts and short and without any proof and like holy fuck how can you defend that. Why are you defending him so much? I can know. I can also tell you other things about him too. I'm not trying to be insulting, but I would estimate that he was probably somewhere around 15-17 years old judging from the grammar in his posts. | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:56 Elvis! wrote: This is a trolly post. How is this alignment indicative. Why are you being so weird. Maybe we'll lynch this guy? It is alignment indicative. He's drawing attention to his reasoning; it says that Serejai wants people to read why he thinks Immaterial is scum. | ||
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On November 05 2014 11:01 Fecalfeast wrote: Oooh, ooh, is this like one of those guess-your-weight things? How old am I? I'd have to RNG that one. 33? Ok I lied - I just guessed. | ||
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On November 05 2014 09:21 Elvis! wrote: Please people give me reasons based on LS posts before his claim why you believed his claim / are defending him etc. . Obviously his claim was right, but that wasn't even remotely understandable at that point. We really need to sort out this chaos, I think talking about why people believed LS is a good start. The reason I am "defending" LS right now is because you specifically asked us to say why we defended him/ believed his claim. On November 05 2014 12:36 Elvis! wrote: Why am I asking why he's defending? Since this guy flipped town now everyone is sheeping everything he has ever done. I don't get this at all. About LS: Please, someone be reasonable and actually post stuff he made that wasn't null or scum. Please, someone be reasonable and actually post more information on why he couldn't have just fakeclaimed. At this point the only reason I see is that he might come in a weird situation in lylo if all our powerroles play well and a lot of stuff happens that isn't forced to happen. Imagine this: He would have been scum, faceclaimed, we would have lynched someone else, everyone would have sheeped him like they did and how they are now (why wouldn't they), scum would, since town is reacting in this way, basically have a confirmed townie among their lines. Even if people wouldn't have sheeped him as much as they are now this would be a desaster for town and really good for scum. Why are scenarios like this less possible than the other ones. I'm not convinced at all about all the things people are saying about LS. People kept pointing out all his mistakes and scummy posts before and now he's suddenly considered a god amongst people. I only see a lot of people that could be scum earn town cred right nowfor sheeping him and talking about how he was town, why we shouldn't have voted for him and so on. No risk, easy town points for our opponents. I don't have a good feeling about this. I gave my reasoning for why I felt LS was more likely town in response to your post. Now you are accusing me of trying to gain town cred for town reading him? Or am I misreading this? | ||
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On November 05 2014 12:59 Elvis! wrote: @Grack I'm accusing all the people who defended him after his death of wanting easy towncred. I know that you were one of the people who believed him beforehand. As I stated I don't think your reasoning you had is valid at all, since his actions have never been townie or helped town in any way, since he never put much effort into them, making a lot of 3-4 liners is not difficult, doesn't show someone being active or trying. So I'm accusing you less of defending him now (still a bit since you stick to your read and defended a bit more) and more of defending him in the first place. His play didn't warrant him being rated anything better than null That's fair enough. I'm aware of why he was scum read - his posts weren't very good and he parroted other people's ideas. I focused more into the motivations behind his posts and I also factored into account what I thought about the person making the posts. (I had less expectations for his posts than I do for Breshke's posts. Breshke made some good posts today that actually analyzed whether something was townie or scummy) I think it's completely reasonable for you to not understand how I got that town read because from your perspective none of his posts are townie. There's not much I can really say besides we have different views. I feel mafia are perfectly capable of making good posts day1, and I wouldn't town read people for any of the things that were used to form the 'town circle' from earlier today. | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:13 Fecalfeast wrote: From what everyone says, kush is really bad at playing scum and usually slips up early. He has been inactive mostly but I have no real read on him. I am just about to leave for home. If I remember I'll dive his filter when I am home. Kush is quite bad at playing scum. He used to only be capable of bussing as scum, so if all of Kush's reads were correct you could tell that he had too much information. | ||
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(this is an awesome place to go to if you want to study past games of a player in your game!) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-22-2013 02:22 AM ET (US) here is a gift i am going to give to all of you. The gift of a 100% easy and correct way of reading my alignment. I cannot read town filters as scum. I just tried and it's impossible. Too boring! But I do it as my primary scumhunting method as town. kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-21-2013 09:57 AM ET (US) please bus me i want my life to end kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-21-2013 09:38 AM ET (US) im so sad i got scum. everyone has permission to bus the shit out of me kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted 09-20-2013 10:58 PM ET (US) nah im trash scum and i will bus all of you in the most obvious manner | ||
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If it's doc/cop then mafia don't need to lynch LS they can just RB him. | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:51 Elvis! wrote: @Grack read stuff about his lies on my filter (page 1-3) and look at his filter. It's not difficult to see where he contradicted himself and lied. This is probably the last I'll talk about this unless you really want to keep discussing it. On November 04 2014 07:34 Elvis! wrote: Talking about this Lightning guy. So he begins with a vote on superbia. ... I don't even... Like how can you vote someone without giving reasoning. Ok, he later on gives reasoning after being asked multiple times, as he says "I have read chelsea's posts (and I wanna look town so I agree with the guy who people think is townie)" Then he's like, "wait a second, chelsea pulled his vote back. Time to pull mine back as well so I fit in again and don't look suspicious. Being mafai is so easy". Then he sees people going on about Immortal. Now guess what happens next. He calls someone fishy without reasoning what exactly is meant, why it is fishy, why that appears scummy or anything of importance. Generally, I am yet to see him post his own opinion that isn't basically copy-pasted from someone (especially chelsea), rephrased or wishy-washy (referring to his recent post on Immortal being "fishy"). I am yet to see his posts exceed 4 lines, and even those 4 lines don't ever have content. He just rephrases stuff and basically reposts others, and I'm yet to see anything productive from him. He doesn't even remotely try hunting scum For now, if he doesn't drastically change his playstyle or someone more definitive arrises, I view him as a mafia lurker. ##Vote LightningStrike . This isn't LS lying, this is just your narrative of his play: "I have read chelsea's posts (and I wanna look town so I agree with the guy who people think is townie)" Then he's like, "wait a second, chelsea pulled his vote back. Time to pull mine back as well so I fit in again and don't look suspicious. Being mafai is so easy". Another narrative (and the correct one, mind you) is that LS didn't have a strong idea of how to scum hunt, so his reads were strongly influenced by what other people were saying in thread. He saw reasoning from someone he thought was townie so he voted Superbia, then people started arguing that it was a bad vote and he was influenced by that reasoning as well so he unvoted Superbia. I thought my explanation for his play fit a bit better because he didn't seem too nervous about doing it. He came back to the thread and kept making similar posts despite people calling him out for copying other people's thoughts. It took me a remarkably long time to figure out what was going on in that other post of his that you quoted accusing him of lying. But it was essentially just an expansion of this On November 04 2014 23:20 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up and saw Elvis thinking I am a scum when he already switched his views a lot so his vote should be taken with a grain of salt on that part but however I do agree his posts were mainly suspicious because of him defending Superbia with mostly saying just wait till Superbia post and after Superbia made a post Elvis tried to stear all the attention away from Superbia and placed it on me and Sentinel which kind of screams Scum due to Sentinel is a townie and although my post are kind of bad but I am a Townie. ##unvote ##vote Elvis He's not lying about anything he's just not using very good reasoning. He feels sentinel is town and knows that he is town. He's arguing that you are scum because you weren't suspicious of Superbia and then you tried to shift attention off of Superbia on to him/sentinel. There's no lie in that - it's just not a very good reason to suspect you. | ||
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I was pressuring Elvis a lot yesterday but I don't think he's scum anymore. Superbia/sentinel are both possibilities Try to look at KSCs play as a whole rather than just the fake claim -I'm pretty sure town fake counter claims more often than scum. Batsnacks vote doesn't matter too much to me. It's not strange reasoning from Serajai but he could have easily not changed votes at all. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:01 Blazinghand wrote: Driving right now will post more thoughts in about an hour Could this be a repeat of British empire 2? On April 20 2014 06:20 Blazinghand wrote: Ok ok so some stuff came up. Let's say end of April. It'll happen I promise. I know it has been a year and a month since the end of this game, but THE END GAME WRITEUP WILL HAPPEN. | ||
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