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Someone explain to me what KSC has to gain from counterclaiming cop as mafia when they would have had a roleblocker anyway, why take that big of a risk. I agree his recend was late but i stand by that i never actually believed him and i had time to change my vote and didn't.
Bats once again i ask why you unvoted straight away after he claimed.
So you think this guy is scum you have started a bandwagon on him. Then he claims cop and you immediately unvote. As town you would have suspicion of a fake claim as he was claiming to save himself. So why didn't you leave your vote and pressure him. That play doesn't add up.
I think KSC is town and im leaning scum on bats.
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This game is making my brain hurt
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On November 05 2014 08:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:07 KelsierSC wrote: also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him. If we have a watcher, scum would know. And if we have a watcher, that means there's no doctor. Meaning they can just kill him off since confirmed townie.
yeh and whoever visits him the watcher can see it. is mafia kill a visit?
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On November 05 2014 08:09 Breshke wrote: Someone explain to me what KSC has to gain from counterclaiming cop as mafia when they would have had a roleblocker anyway, why take that big of a risk. I agree his recend was late but i stand by that i never actually believed him and i had time to change my vote and didn't.
Bats once again i ask why you unvoted straight away after he claimed.
So you think this guy is scum you have started a bandwagon on him. Then he claims cop and you immediately unvote. As town you would have suspicion of a fake claim as he was claiming to save himself. So why didn't you leave your vote and pressure him. That play doesn't add up.
I think KSC is town and im leaning scum on bats.
I unvoted lightning when KSC claimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?
I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?
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On November 05 2014 08:10 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:09 Breshke wrote: Someone explain to me what KSC has to gain from counterclaiming cop as mafia when they would have had a roleblocker anyway, why take that big of a risk. I agree his recend was late but i stand by that i never actually believed him and i had time to change my vote and didn't.
Bats once again i ask why you unvoted straight away after he claimed.
So you think this guy is scum you have started a bandwagon on him. Then he claims cop and you immediately unvote. As town you would have suspicion of a fake claim as he was claiming to save himself. So why didn't you leave your vote and pressure him. That play doesn't add up.
I think KSC is town and im leaning scum on bats.
I unvoted lightning when KSC claimed because voting the uncced cop is bad? I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?
you unvoted before I claimed if I recall
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KSC essentially told us that he wasn't the real cop when he unvoted LS, so there was a lot more time to reconsider than people are saying.
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Wait I messed that up
ebwop:
I re-voted lightning when KSC claimed because lightning was no longer the uncced cop. And I thought lightning was, at the time, less scummy than KSC.
I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?
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On November 05 2014 08:11 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:10 batsnacks wrote:On November 05 2014 08:09 Breshke wrote: Someone explain to me what KSC has to gain from counterclaiming cop as mafia when they would have had a roleblocker anyway, why take that big of a risk. I agree his recend was late but i stand by that i never actually believed him and i had time to change my vote and didn't.
Bats once again i ask why you unvoted straight away after he claimed.
So you think this guy is scum you have started a bandwagon on him. Then he claims cop and you immediately unvote. As town you would have suspicion of a fake claim as he was claiming to save himself. So why didn't you leave your vote and pressure him. That play doesn't add up.
I think KSC is town and im leaning scum on bats.
I unvoted lightning when KSC claimed because voting the uncced cop is bad? I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad? you unvoted before I claimed if I recall
You recall incorrectly.
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meh I'm going to read the thread now and see what I find. This isn't the end of the world. KSC you shouldn't have fake claimed.
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On November 05 2014 07:12 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:On November 05 2014 07:00 Breshke wrote: How will ls ever prove himself this is the problem he will forever be a question mark it will forever be a massive question mark and willr esult in people having to claim there role early so im happy with voting him now. The claim was bad and i disagree that his play has been towny saying stuff is weird without any other reasoning isn't good enough. i dont get your reasoning here. he can be proved by a flip or a claim. Very possibly that would have happened before lylo but if it didn't so what. We would still have confirmed scum/town at lylo. Why would mafia ever kill him they would just roleblock him and leave him alive. People would always be unsure on him there would always be the world where there is a watcher and a medic or where there was another cop not wanting to claim yet. Going forward I didn't think he would be necessary as he is useless until we killed the roleblocker and i was confident in that happening. It was wrong though i should have changed my vote i was bullheaded though and was sure he was just trying to save himself as mafia. Also are you going to actually start helping town now or what?
do people see how this reasoning is from the point of view that that dude in question is town? this was reasoning he was using before the flip. "Why would mafia ever kill him when they can just roleblock him?" which is true if he's town. But if he's scum, there is a high possibility the real pr will die in which case ls would be confirmed scum.
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On November 05 2014 08:12 batsnacks wrote: Wait I messed that up
ebwop:
I re-voted lightning when KSC claimed because lightning was no longer the uncced cop. And I thought lightning was, at the time, less scummy than KSC.
I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad?
This game is giving me a headache. I can't get anything right
last EBWOP
I thought lightning was scummy before KSC claimed.
1) I voted lightning. 2) Lightning claimed 3) I unvoted 4) KSC cced 5) I re-voted lightning 6) KSC rescinded 7) I unvoted lightning and voted jasmine
That was the order of events for my voting.
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On November 05 2014 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 08:07 KelsierSC wrote: also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him. If we have a watcher, scum would know. And if we have a watcher, that means there's no doctor. Meaning they can just kill him off since confirmed townie. yeh and whoever visits him the watcher can see it. is mafia kill a visit? I didn't think of that. Are you going to call me scum for being fallible?
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On November 05 2014 08:02 Elvis! wrote: sicklucker your post isn't really making much sense, I didn't change my vote a lot at all.
Your right I made a mistake thought both you and bats changed your votes to Serejai after KelsierSC shenanigans. Your off my scum list im taking in alot of info in a short time my bad.
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On November 05 2014 08:17 Grackaroni wrote: meh I'm going to read the thread now and see what I find. This isn't the end of the world. KSC you shouldn't have fake claimed.
yeh you're probably right but at the time it felt like a good play.
Got lots of information from the votes though,
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This is the correct order of events:
On November 05 2014 08:17 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:12 batsnacks wrote: Wait I messed that up
ebwop:
I re-voted lightning when KSC claimed because lightning was no longer the uncced cop. And I thought lightning was, at the time, less scummy than KSC.
I unvoted lightning when KSC unclaimed because voting the uncced cop is bad? This game is giving me a headache. I can't get anything right last EBWOP I thought lightning was scummy before KSC claimed. 1) I voted lightning. 2) Lightning claimed 3) I unvoted 4) KSC cced 5) I re-voted lightning 6) KSC rescinded 7) I unvoted lightning and voted jasmine That was the order of events for my voting.
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On November 05 2014 08:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:On November 05 2014 08:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 08:07 KelsierSC wrote: also he wouldn't have been useless due to roleblock, if we had watcher, watcher can watch cop and see who visits him. If we have a watcher, scum would know. And if we have a watcher, that means there's no doctor. Meaning they can just kill him off since confirmed townie. yeh and whoever visits him the watcher can see it. is mafia kill a visit? I didn't think of that. Are you going to call me scum for being fallible?
no I don't think that is the reason you are scummy.
one of the main reasons you are scummy is apparentlybecause you didn't believe me, even though you never bothered to question my claim and were happy to lynch the un-cc cop because you believed he was claiming a role that you thought didn't exist. Then despite saying absolutely none of this during the votes you come out immediately afterwards and call me scum and put all of the blame on me for getting LS lynched.
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I actually, when Kelly first CC'd, was thinking it was to call out a bluff since he said "recend it's the town thing to do" or whatever his actual phrasing was. I was fucking IN ON THE TRAP at that point. When you came back and pressed the issue further, I thought for sure you were really the cop.
I hates you right now kelsier.
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On November 05 2014 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote: I actually, when Kelly first CC'd, was thinking it was to call out a bluff since he said "recend it's the town thing to do" or whatever his actual phrasing was. I was fucking IN ON THE TRAP at that point. When you came back and pressed the issue further, I thought for sure you were really the cop.
I hates you right now kelsier.
yeh I probably should have just resended when he didn't backt down
I just got too hung up on the "detective" thing and the fact he didn't even bother to throw scum on me,
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