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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 02:47 GMT
#1167
Yeah serejai i have no idea what you are doing. Also elvis show me the post that iw as 100% agreeing too i cant find it. ( i know its there im not disputing that)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 02:55 GMT
#1168
On November 05 2014 13:07 sicklucker wrote:
elvis drop this its not productive and your not gonna convince anyone because your going against the logic of thousands of mafia games. Theres also this. Theres a 66% chance that there is a town watcher in the game heres a description of this role

Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to watch. You will learn the names of every player that visits your target the same night. You win with the town.

So all the town has to do is keep checking him and when hes role blocked or killed we know who it is and we get a 1 for 1 trade (they cant leave a confirmed cop in the game) no matter what unless they fake claim cop or something crazy.

This is my first mafia game and I noticed this so im sure everyone has figured it out I know Breshke already said the same thing indirectly about his horrible vote. Anyway move on. Think im gonna head to bed



found it, i was agreeing on mechanics not reads
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 03:03 GMT
#1171
I wasnt agreeing with the post i quoted i was agreeing with his last post. The post i quoted was as i stated with "like this" was a post i was readint him townie i never said i agreed with those reads.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 03:14 GMT
#1176
On November 07 2014 12:07 Elvis! wrote:
well if you say you agree 100% I kinda think you agree with everything up until that point am I wrong?


No i agree with his last post not everything he says. Do you not believe me when i say that?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 03:15 GMT
#1177
The elvis tunnel is real. What questions do you ened me to answer?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 03:34 GMT
#1181
On November 07 2014 12:14 Elvis! wrote:
(There's a hefty discussion going on in the scum QT I assume, since there's easy questions and noone answers)


what questions?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#1183
Elvis are you reading me as scum for anything other than associative reads with sicklucker?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 04:12 GMT
#1200
I just want to point out that kush came back to the thread and admitted he isn't even reading? Why arn't more people other than me and bats voting him?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 09:56 GMT
#1214
So elvis reading through your large post it seems that you think mainly my scum read on kush is his inactivity and you are relating this to other peoples activity. I think this is entirely wrong as kush has been lurking almost the enitre game and has given 0 reads. Pick anyone else and you can find at least one point where they have given reads. town wants to give reads, they want to help other towns by sharing their opinion and giving their views. Mafia however doesn', they don't want to help town and they don't want to post any reads connecting them with other players. Kush is mafia. I can't even consider him as a town who has just been busy and not able to play because if that was true he would take time to explain that to us and not post crap like this.

On November 07 2014 14:55 kushm4sta wrote:
dun lynch me bros


Also I think it is very dangerous for people to think that mafia is all aligning at this stage (agreeing on all reads and stuff) This gets in heavy WIFOM territory but at least one of the three would try and put them self on a different side to the other two in my opinion.

Also when i bring up grack i am not saying everything he said was 100% right but you need to take his reads and opinions into account. He is confirmed town now so we know he was coming from a town perspective we can't just forget everything he said.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 13:03 GMT
#1217
On November 07 2014 21:52 Serejai wrote:
Immaterial is really bothering me.

On one hand I think he's scum and want to lynch him. On the other hand he's going to be modkilled, so that would be a wasted lynch.

Or is he? Maybe he is scum and he's going to be replaced instead of modkilled, in which case the game would pretty much be over because we would have just let a very obvious scum live two days in a row for no good reason.

There's also the chance that he decides to show up 5 minutes before voting ends to cast his vote, in which case that kind of solidifies he's scum but it would be too late for us to do anything about it at that point.


I don't know if you are just confused or purposly getting facts wrong to try fear monger.

Not lynching imma even if he is scum doesn't mean the game is "preatty much over". If we lynch a town then at the start of D3 it will be 6 town to 3 mafia which is no where close to over.

Also when we lynch kush today i'm fairly sure we hit a mafia anyway.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 13:25 GMT
#1221
I think kush is scum thats why i want to lynch him? How am i taking that risk? The game isn't over until the mod says it is being in mylo doesn't mean the game is over. Also no you are wrong again if we lynch a town today and a town tomorrow at the start of D4 i believe we are at 4 town to 3 mafia which is still not game over.

Im confused why you think we aren't hitting scum today, do you think kush is town?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 13:48 GMT
#1223
Sere i don't know why you are changing your vote so much so easily. Are you not really worried about imma anymore?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:08 GMT
#1310
On November 08 2014 04:51 Superbia wrote:
Neither you nor Serejai are getting lynched today. Kelsier is getting lynched today.

Kush should start doing shit tomorrow or he should have himself get MKed or replaced.

Imma should get MKed or replaced.

Elvis town.

Serejai town.

sicklucker leaning scum. The fact that I can't resonate with the logic behind his posts makes it incredibly hard for me to read him at this point in time. Seems very fixated on claiming town and being read town, which is why I'm reading him as possible scum.

batsnacks maybe town. Confirmed town if Kelsier flips scum.

Sentinel still scum. Scum read him d1, since then he has: 1. lynched the cop. 2. done nothing. Lynch for tomorrow.

FecalFeast still leaning scum. Hasn't really done much today except change vote from kelsier to a lurker (kush), which does not hold up well if kelsier ends up flipping scum. Why the fuck are you going after a lurker again on d2? No information to be gained from the lynch, no real reason behind the lynch, easy target. Priority target (alongside Sentinel) if kelsier flips scum.

Breshke leaning scum. Pushes on lurker (kush), which is scummy for the reasons described under FF. This post is also scummy or at best donkey town:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 11:47 Breshke wrote:
Bats and serajai your scum reads today have been based mainly around the vote, who's fault it was and what the vote implicates. A lot of us fucked up yesterday and i think if we had had 5 minutes longer (yes bats i agree 3 minutes isn't long enough) i think the day would have ended very differently. While this was a massive thing that happend i think you are both focusing on it way too much.


Let me get this straight: it's revealed that cop is being lynched a few minutes before EoD and the right number of people don't move their votes, so the cop ends up dying. Do you think this is fucking random or something? Scum had so much to gain from that lynch. Analyzing the votes is the way to gain information, especially in this case. For sure there was scum on LS. For sure there was scum who did not change their votes (in time). Guess what? You were among those who had their votes on LS in the end. This combined with the fact that you're basically telling us "not to analyze the votes too much" is pretty fucking scummy. Your tunnel on kush today is also a waste of time because we have essentially no information regarding kush.


Yes basing your read ENTIRELY on the vote is stupid as fuck. Vote logic is one part of the game you should be getting scumreads from peoples interactions and using vote logic to back it up. Also i know iw as in the group that lynched the cop idc but everyone who didn't vote immaterial as aswell so i was trying to show if you are going to use vote logic you have to use it on these people aswell.

So you would like to give kush another free pass for nor eason. I've actually given reasons why kush is scum if you actuallly cared to read them. He isn't just lurking though he is posting enough to not get himself modkilled or replaced if we don't lynch him today i don't see why we don't jsut give him a pass for the rest of the fucking game. See how the excuse only comes when he is about to get lynched, yeah convenient.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:11 GMT
#1315
On November 08 2014 05:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 05:04 Elvis! wrote:
Superbia KSC hasn't even posted anything superbia.
He's not damaging town today and not disturbing us. Let's kill him later and he'll be a easy correct lynch.
Let's lynch the guy who is spamming the thread with nonsense instead.


This is the massive problem with leaving Kelsier alive. We don't know for sure if he's a correct lynch, but he's going to be an easy lynch for the rest of the game. His presence will FUCK US UP during MYLO/LYLO. I'm not convinced that sicklucker will flip scum. Moreover, we get very little information from his lynch, because he has been in the game for essentially 1 day. Moreover, he was not part of the votes yesterday, which gives us even less information. Not the correct lynch. Lynch should be Kelsier.


how isnt kush an easy lynch for the rest of the game? This is ridiculous.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:14 GMT
#1319
On November 08 2014 05:10 Elvis! wrote:
But Breshke is he hurting town atm?
Why not lynch him later, we can't lynch them all at once?
Also what do you think about his excuse OR him being lazy town OR him being lurking town OR him being lazy PR OR him being lurking PR.
Don't you feel the possibility of a mislynch is too high?


Ye he is hurting town because he has a vote which is going to be used retardedly.

Excuses are wifom and they only came when he had to give them which isn't townie its mafia

I find it hard to consider him lazy town when pregame he seemed so hyped to play.

I don't know how lurking town is a thing? This should only be for new players how is lurking town ever useful?

If he was PR he would be at least slightly invested into this game.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:17 GMT
#1324
On November 08 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote:
Bresh what do you think of a scum team of kush Serejai + one. Who would your one be?


I just woke up and its like 6:30am i can't logically think this right now. Superbias. hard defense after doing nothing all day is weird though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:18 GMT
#1326
Elvis answer me this, do you think serejai is mafia?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:20 GMT
#1328
On November 08 2014 05:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 05:11 Breshke wrote:
On November 08 2014 05:09 Superbia wrote:
On November 08 2014 05:04 Elvis! wrote:
Superbia KSC hasn't even posted anything superbia.
He's not damaging town today and not disturbing us. Let's kill him later and he'll be a easy correct lynch.
Let's lynch the guy who is spamming the thread with nonsense instead.


This is the massive problem with leaving Kelsier alive. We don't know for sure if he's a correct lynch, but he's going to be an easy lynch for the rest of the game. His presence will FUCK US UP during MYLO/LYLO. I'm not convinced that sicklucker will flip scum. Moreover, we get very little information from his lynch, because he has been in the game for essentially 1 day. Moreover, he was not part of the votes yesterday, which gives us even less information. Not the correct lynch. Lynch should be Kelsier.


how isnt kush an easy lynch for the rest of the game? This is ridiculous.


I'm honestly expecting him to be replaced if he doesn't become more active. Also lurkers come out of their shells when the players reduce because there is no way to hide. You can't lurk yourself to victory regardless of alignment. It's a losing strategy for either alignment.


I don't think kush is someone who needs to come out of his shell though. My problem is now that i dont think there will be a replacement for imma which means there is only one more lynch after today. Kush is poasting "enough" to not get modkilled.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:22 GMT
#1330
On November 08 2014 05:15 Elvis! wrote:
Breshke and Superbia:
Both your targets have barely posted.
Both of them are easy lynches later on.
Both of them don't hurt town atm and are less likely to hurt town than sicklucker.

Please let us lynch sicklucker, a person where you should look at his filter again, try to find out his alignment and then decide.
We can discuss in which order we lynch KSC/kush tomorrow and see if they were just lurking.


No Elvis lurking does hurt town especially as an experianced player. Not giving your inisght into the game directly hurts town if you are town because you arn't hunting scum.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#1335
On November 08 2014 05:20 Elvis! wrote:
He might just be agree with me because he wants to pocket me. He also posted earlier "wagons are fun", which might be the point in time where he decided to bus his scum mate.
I won't have his posts influence my vote.
If he wants to bus his teammate, he can.
So atm I read him leaning scum.


I am reading you town elvis but this is my problem with a lot of your cases and what my problem with you last game was. You make outlandish claims and also like to guess what other people are doing. You then fully commit to this world and show almost 0 signs of reevaluating. This is not me saying your reads are wrong, ill have a look at sickluckers filter.
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