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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 05 2014 02:23 GMT
#915
Everyone always does. I have used this name for around 10 years now
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 05 2014 03:45 GMT
#920
I'm here but I'm closing my store at this moment. I stand by my post but again, I never said it's an impossible play from scum just that I personally would prefer letting one scum live D1 to killing my cop D1. This may not be how you see it but from my perspective a mislynch on a VT is better than a mislynch on a cop.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 05 2014 04:04 GMT
#927
On November 05 2014 12:50 Elvis! wrote:
And an actual lynch is what we're hitting for in this game. We're not hitting for trying to avoid hitting townies, we're hunting scum. I don't think you're scum by this post but your opinion on what to lynch is really strange to me.
I don't give a shit if we lynched all our power roles by the end as long as we lynch more scum by doing so. There is only 3 scum to kill, we will get a huge amount of information out of killing scum and a million more reasons to risk a lot to kill scum. We have to risk a lot to kill scum, but that's fine. I just don't think any power role can ever outweight potentially lynching scum.



So you think lynching an un-CC'd cop because they acted scummy before is better than trying to find scum in a slot that isn't possibly our most important PR? What I'm saying is that there's a better risk:reward ratio in hunting for scum that isn't claiming cop on day1. That way a mislynch is less likely to be cop on top of the fact that we have more options to figure out the cop-claimer the next day.

Or to put it into the most basic form I can manage.

Dead Scum > everything
Dead Cop < everything

So in the situation where scum and cop occupy the same Schroedinger's slot in the game the two outcomes are either the best outcome for town, or the worst outcome for town.

Dead scum > dead VT > dead watcher > dead doctor > dead cop

So by instead hunting for scum in a slot that is most likely NOT the cop, we eliminate the possibility of killing our cop while also allowing more time for us to figure out if the claim is legit.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 05 2014 04:06 GMT
#928
I can't believe I just spent that long explaining why lynching an unCC'd cop is a bad idea.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 05 2014 04:13 GMT
#931
From what everyone says, kush is really bad at playing scum and usually slips up early.

He has been inactive mostly but I have no real read on him. I am just about to leave for home. If I remember I'll dive his filter when I am home.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 00:24 GMT
#1020
On November 06 2014 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Serejai is making much more sense today.

I'm gonna have to disagree.


##vote KelsierSC
You killed the cop, man.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 00:40 GMT
#1025
On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.

1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.

2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.

Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above.


Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense.


No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now.

Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 00:40 GMT
#1027
On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.

1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.

2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.

Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above.


Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense.


No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now.

Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup.

Er a watcher
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 00:50 GMT
#1033
On November 06 2014 09:44 Breshke wrote:
I've already explained that even if there is a doc the cop is still useless until we kill the roleblocker

On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.

1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.

2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.

Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above.


Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense.


No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now.

Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup.

Er a watcher


Watcher watches cop, sees roleblocker.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 01:21 GMT
#1044
Snacks what's the current value for jasminejai?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 02:08 GMT
#1051
On November 06 2014 11:00 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 10:40 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:26 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy?


On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes

Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late


28 hours later and we're still waiting for this justification he had for lynching the cop.


I agree I expect immaterial to come back to the thread and do his best to portray town and hunt scum. I find it weird that he said he would justify his vote because he admitted to not reading the thread meaning he was going to read him scum no matter what.

Serejai do you not think kush is just as bad. He was voting for sentinel with an unjustified vote which also lynched the cop. Yes it wasn't in such a direct way but the end result is still the same.



I'm null, slightly scum on kush. The fact that he is AFK is a big red flag to me but he hasn't really posted enough to get a read on. Ideally people who have played with him in previous games should step up and comment on his appearances... or lack thereof, but so far everyone seems to be turning a blind eye to him.

I'm concerned about him because whatever he is, he's not really being helpful to town at all... but I'm more concerned about other people at the moment. There are three mafia... can't get them all in one da.


It has been said multiple times with evidence (in grackaroni's filter) that kush plays an afk bad scum game.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 02:09 GMT
#1052
He busses or afks from what grack and others say. I don't have much experience with scumkush
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 02:40 GMT
#1054
On November 06 2014 02:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I won't be on either, focus on immaterial/Kush when they post tomorrow.
I was pressuring Elvis a lot yesterday but I don't think he's scum anymore.
Superbia/sentinel are both possibilities
Try to look at KSCs play as a whole rather than just the fake claim -I'm pretty sure town fake counter claims more often than scum.
Batsnacks vote doesn't matter too much to me. It's not strange reasoning from Serajai but he could have easily not changed votes at all.

"When they post tomorrow"

-.-
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 02:44 GMT
#1055
Yeah really immaterial left us with a cliffhanger it's been 30 hours since he said he'd justify himself

On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes

Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late


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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 02:47 GMT
#1056
On November 05 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Im going with KelsierSC as a town here. He may have blotched it and got the cop killed but you can see what he was trying to do. I dont think he does this as mafia it makes no sense. The cop came out so theres no reason to do a high risk play to get him killed


Can you expand on your reason to call kelly town? There have been multiple reasons stated as to why there's a reason to do the high risk play, even if it's not foolproof.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 03:05 GMT
#1058
Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. Roughly speaking, this equates to a bare minimum of one post per 36 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced.


TBH immaterial is coming close to modkill inactivity

Kush isn't far behind.

I understand it's not a 36 hour limit and I'm not saying they're going to get modkilled but man are these guys not helping at all. One of them has a hard scum tell in thread and one is new. I'd rather lynch kush than imma at this point, but first would really like imma to follow up on his last post.

I don't even know maybe kelly saw his team and realized he had to try something drastic with 2 afkers lol.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 03:20 GMT
#1060
On November 06 2014 12:12 Breshke wrote:
Seriously noone has explained this still. lets assume KSC is scum.

He sees LS claim cop to try and get out of a lynch. So as mafia he knows either this is the real cop or a dumb vanilla town trying to save himself. If LS was vanilla town this would be great for KSC he would just sit back and let a shitstorm unleash. KSC then has to think wait this guy could be the real cop. You guys then think that his next action is I better cc this cop so we can lynch him during the day drawing all this attention to myself and probably getting myself lynched tomorrow.

Why would KSC as mafia not just deal with LS during the night no one has given any reason for this.

That being said I have explained why i don't think the cc came from a mafia mindset but KSC i still want to hear what town mindset it comes from.

A shitstorm didn't unleash, multiple people unvoted right after he claimed cop. I think you're naive thinking scumkelsier isn't capable of a play like that. Mafia gets dead cop and dead townie and especially since they know there's a watcher, killing cop during the day to eliminate a stressful wifom-filled night kill discussion and getting 2 free guesses on the watcher with kill/RB is totally worth a dead goon IMHO
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 03:21 GMT
#1061
Of course if there's a doctor it changes the whole situation and I believe kelsier is town.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 03:22 GMT
#1062
Which is a bit of a risk since I don't want doc to claim.

##unvote
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 06 2014 03:28 GMT
#1064
If your only options are those 4, I would have to pick Imma followed by sent followed by bats followed by I was actually driving there was a 3 minute window between unclaim and EoD.

How do you feel about Kush being scum if kelsier flipped scum?
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