EPTOn November 05 2014 06:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeh so for sentinal,
Early game I made the point he had just come up with a load of mechanical stuff which is an easy way for someone to fake being town
I like this point that super brought up about him
Then you look at the way he voted,
yeh so for sentinal,
Early game I made the point he had just come up with a load of mechanical stuff which is an easy way for someone to fake being town
I like this point that super brought up about him
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On November 05 2014 00:07 Superbia wrote:
So let me get this straight, you accepted precisely because of this reason? And you planned this within 5 minutes?
Why are you answering for FF? Why do you presume to know what his goal is? This only makes sense if you know FF's alignment.
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So let's look at his returning post:
I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Making reads based on people's reactions to events is much easier when you're involved in said events. It eliminates one of the variables.
So let's look at his returning post:
On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!
The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.
Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"
Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!
The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.
Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"
Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Making reads based on people's reactions to events is much easier when you're involved in said events. It eliminates one of the variables.
So let me get this straight, you accepted precisely because of this reason? And you planned this within 5 minutes?
On November 04 2014 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fecalfeast -
Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.
We're pushing more for a reaction from you, if anything. Just as a way to get you to come out, shrug off any suspicion that doesn't belong, and then proceed as needed. It's the beginning of the day - any votes this early are most likely going to be changed as needed.
Fecalfeast -
On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.
At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.
If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.
At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.
If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.
Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.
We're pushing more for a reaction from you, if anything. Just as a way to get you to come out, shrug off any suspicion that doesn't belong, and then proceed as needed. It's the beginning of the day - any votes this early are most likely going to be changed as needed.
Why are you answering for FF? Why do you presume to know what his goal is? This only makes sense if you know FF's alignment.
Then you look at the way he voted,
What about the way I voted was scummy to you?
