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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 20:47 GMT
#609
On November 05 2014 05:45 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 05:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:44 kushm4sta wrote:
LS answer me honestly. Are you scum?

I not a scum all I can tell you.


I think now is a good time to claim.

I telling you I claiming detective so
Is Detective a cop or a Town Watcher?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 20:52 GMT
#612
I talked to the host and he confirmed that Town Detective is indeed Cop so yeah I can't do anything other then say I am a Cop.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#622
I guess this the only way to save my skin while I'm alive.
##unvote
##vote sentinal
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:08 GMT
#627
On November 05 2014 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Serejai (2): kushm4sta, Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (2): Superbia, LightningStrike
LightningStrike (7): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, FecalFeast, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel

Not Voting (2): Cricketer12, Grackaroni

Currently, LightninStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Fixed to reflect the current votes
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:10 GMT
#629
On November 05 2014 06:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh it's on LS. That's not a very good lynch. LS actually tried to share his thoughts despite not knowing what he was doing.

Love you Grack stay golden my friend
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#633
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.

Show nested quote +

After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.

Show nested quote +

It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Show nested quote +
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.

Show nested quote +

Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:15 GMT
#635
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure he can show what he told me in the pms.

EBWOP Spelling here fixed here.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:16 GMT
#637
On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?

After but I kind fo figured beforehand.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:20 GMT
#645
On November 05 2014 06:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?

After but I kind fo figured beforehand.

Why didn't you check beforehand?

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.

If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had?

Other than my experience in SC2 Mafia some cops are called Detectives in real life and if I was Town Watcher he would of told Town Watcher not Detective/Cop
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LightningStrike
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November 04 2014 21:21 GMT
#651
Yes Cop got a second and watcher doesn't as far as I know.
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November 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#655
EBWOP FF seems to say that Watcher can be called Tracker so Watcher and Cop got second names.
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November 04 2014 21:24 GMT
#659
On November 05 2014 06:22 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
[quote]

Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
[quote]

Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?

After but I kind fo figured beforehand.

Why didn't you check beforehand?

On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.

If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had?

Other than my experience in SC2 Mafia some cops are called Detectives in real life and if I was Town Watcher he would of told Town Watcher not Detective/Cop


I'm not saying you're scum... but everything you say is so wrong. As I stated earlier, Cop and Detective are two completely different roles in SC2 mafia. You claiming that you though they were the same in this game because of SC2 Mafia makes no sense at all because they are two different roles there. Why would you assume they were the same role here based on that?

Just gut feeling otherwise to be honest with you.
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United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:33 GMT
#674
##unvote
##vote Immaterial
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United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:34 GMT
#679
Serejai brought a good post on Immaterial and I agreed with him that why I changed my vote.
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November 04 2014 21:37 GMT
#683
On November 05 2014 06:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher.


Yeah but as scum he would know that and wouldnt claim cop because if he is scum cop claim was probably to bait a CC

I was actually thinking the opposite. That they know there is no cop and can claim it freely when on the chopping block for a free day.

I think he executed it poorly, though.

I not a scum and I really don't know what set up it is to tell you truth. I just scared as crap :|
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#686
On November 05 2014 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
just got back from food.

Why do people think I am faking claiming, I am the cop, LS should just rescend

When I die and they see my role as Cop they will lynch I promise that.
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:39 GMT
#689
EBWOP I meant When I die and they see my role as cop they will lynch you KelsierSC I promise that will happen if this town is smart enough to see it.
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Profile Joined February 2011
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November 04 2014 21:40 GMT
#693
On November 05 2014 06:39 KelsierSC wrote:
LS hasn't even tried to call me scum or point out scummy things I have done. He has given up.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher.


Yeah but as scum he would know that and wouldnt claim cop because if he is scum cop claim was probably to bait a CC

I was actually thinking the opposite. That they know there is no cop and can claim it freely when on the chopping block for a free day.

I think he executed it poorly, though.

I not a scum and I really don't know what set up it is to tell you truth. I just scared as crap :|


scared so you fake claimed the role?

if you claim town now that is fine

No I scared that if I live the mafia will kill since I going to either way I just going to smoke weed 420 blaze it.
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#699
Dude I really am a Cop but I can't prove it until tomorrow if this setup got a Doctor I want the Doctor on me if not I will die anyway.
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Profile Joined February 2011
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November 04 2014 21:43 GMT
#701
On November 05 2014 06:42 Serejai wrote:
"i just going to smoke weed 420 blaze it"

Is this real life?

No this is fantasy as Uhura would say in Star Trek 3 The Search for Spock
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