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On November 05 2014 04:00 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Serejai
That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please. Lol, the rationale doesn't sit well? That's a very scummy thing to say. I know I'm town, and I don't know what cricket is. Therefore, if the lynch is going to be me or cricket... why would I let myself stay in the hot seat? I don't think cricket is scum, but I know that I'm not; so if it's him or me, I'll choose him. I thought you were town but this post of yours is scummy as shit.
Alright look if you're town, let me break this down for you. This:
On November 05 2014 03:58 Serejai wrote:
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.
I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why:
Is really scummy. If you keep your vote on Cricketer, and he gets enough votes to be lynched, and if you turn out to be right and he's actually town, you're helping scum win. That's one more wasted lynch for the town and one less person to eliminate for the mafia. You don't follow bandwagons either. That's what scum does because other people make misguided cases and then scummers can put nails in the coffin.
Now here you have a case on Immaterial. But after all that evidence that you dug up on him and you being convinced he's scum (which is what I'm getting from reading that post, you don't even vote for the guy. Why not? The rest of us will commit to him if and only if you deliver some sort of evidence that says "This guy is definitely the scum, and these guys who you're all voting for right now are town, or at least less scummy than Immaterial".
For example I'm voting for you because you have way too many scumreads, are doing the most scum-beneficial things possible right now, and the people who you're voting for doesn't equate to the people who you think are scum. In other words, to answer your question, you're letting yourself stay in the hot seat right now.
So here's what I want you to do, if you're town:
1. There are three scum in the game. Give me the three who you think are the most scummy in this game. If you're really unsure about a third, you can do an alternate fourth.
2. Tell me why those three are the scummiest players in the game.
3 (optional but recommended). Before you post, play devil's advocate. Think about these players being town, and try to justify their actions. Use this to refine your final judgment.
4. Pick the scummiest of the bunch and vote for them.
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Is deadline now? I'll re evaluate once i get to class
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On November 05 2014 04:26 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 04:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 04:00 Serejai wrote:On November 05 2014 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Serejai
That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please. Lol, the rationale doesn't sit well? That's a very scummy thing to say. I know I'm town, and I don't know what cricket is. Therefore, if the lynch is going to be me or cricket... why would I let myself stay in the hot seat? I don't think cricket is scum, but I know that I'm not; so if it's him or me, I'll choose him. I thought you were town but this post of yours is scummy as shit. Alright look if you're town, let me break this down for you. This: On November 05 2014 03:58 Serejai wrote:
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.
I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why: Is really scummy. If you keep your vote on Cricketer, and he gets enough votes to be lynched, and if you turn out to be right and he's actually town, you're helping scum win. That's one more wasted lynch for the town and one less person to eliminate for the mafia. You don't follow bandwagons either. That's what scum does because other people make misguided cases and then scummers can put nails in the coffin. Now here you have a case on Immaterial. But after all that evidence that you dug up on him and you being convinced he's scum (which is what I'm getting from reading that post, you don't even vote for the guy. Why not? The rest of us will commit to him if and only if you deliver some sort of evidence that says "This guy is definitely the scum, and these guys who you're all voting for right now are town, or at least less scummy than Immaterial". For example I'm voting for you because you have way too many scumreads, are doing the most scum-beneficial things possible right now, and the people who you're voting for doesn't equate to the people who you think are scum. In other words, to answer your question, you're letting yourself stay in the hot seat right now. So here's what I want you to do, if you're town: 1. There are three scum in the game. Give me the three who you think are the most scummy in this game. If you're really unsure about a third, you can do an alternate fourth. 2. Tell me why those three are the scummiest players in the game. 3 (optional but recommended). Before you post, play devil's advocate. Think about these players being town, and try to justify their actions. Use this to refine your final judgment. 4. Pick the scummiest of the bunch and vote for them. You list four things, and I've already done them all. 1) I've stated my scumlist numerous times in this thread (Elvis, Fecal, bat, kush / Immaterial), and all that resulted from it was all four of them voting to lynch me. 2) I've stated why I think all of them are scum, and this resulted in my scumlist tunneling me.
Elvis did a reactionary vote just like you. The reason I picked you over him is that you call everyone scum and Elvis's posts have slightly more substance. You also kinda dug your hole on that one.
4) I've picked the scummiest of my scumlist (Elvis) and voted for them, which resulted in everyone getting scum reads on me because apparently Elvis is confirmed town.
It doesn't seem like you're in danger with the LS wagon. Also wtf the LS wagon. That said, I want you to try and make the best case you can for Elvis being town. Might not do a lot to your end goals, but it'll probably make your points a lot more weighty considering you looked at both sides of the coin. Right now it just looks like you're yelling at everyone who tries to oppose you on the thinnest strands of evidence, although I somewhat did like your case on Imma. It seemed more thought out, although it's got a long way to go.
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On November 05 2014 05:29 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 05 2014 05:26 KelsierSC wrote:
btw LS I am the real detective so if you really think you have been townier than me we can try to 1v1
or if you are truly town then just resend and we can move on Sucks having to counterclaim D1. Hope we have a doctor. We do.
Wtf kush have you been posting under Serejai's name this whole time?
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On November 05 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:26 KelsierSC wrote:
btw LS I am the real detective so if you really think you have been townier than me we can try to 1v1
or if you are truly town then just resend and we can move on Sucks having to counterclaim D1. Hope we have a doctor.
Counterclaim for a role that doesn't exist?
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Maybe King BH used RNG on his thesaurus?
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On November 05 2014 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:42 KelsierSC wrote:On November 05 2014 05:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Detective and Cop were the closest I got name wise for meaning so educational guess name and meaning :| Like you aren't even looking at my posts or trying to show I am scummy, it is like you know I am telling the truth. There is no way I can prove or disprove you until I die or get saved for the day and have a doc on me.
Alright.
##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike
I'm putting my vote on you until you make sense.
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Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?
On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!
I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.
Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve! I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway. Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now! I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.
Already discussed my rationale behind this.
After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote. Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.
How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.
It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand. Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this postShow nested quote +I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.
Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.
Show nested quote +Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?
It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.
Then this post. Show nested quote +On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages. The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep. Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early? We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine. On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between? Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10: + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched. On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post. On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts. On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again
On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post Make an example Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events. let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler. Show nested quote +November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38 You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.
Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.
I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.
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On November 05 2014 06:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh it's on LS. That's not a very good lynch. LS actually tried to share his thoughts despite not knowing what he was doing.
LS confused the thread with something that reeks of utter bullshit to me.
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On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Fuck. Never answered this one, did I? On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!
I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.
Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve! I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway. Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now! I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious. Already discussed my rationale behind this. After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote. Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom. How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis. It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand. Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this postI wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother. Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books. Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy? It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history. Then this post. On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages. The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep. Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early? We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine. On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between? Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10: + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched. On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post. On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts. On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again
On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post Make an example Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events. let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler. November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38 You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you. Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it. I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions. The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.
When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?
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On November 05 2014 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Fuck. Never answered this one, did I? On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!
I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.
Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve! I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway. Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now! I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious. Already discussed my rationale behind this. After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote. Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom. How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis. It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand. Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this postI wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother. Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books. Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy? It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history. Then this post. On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages. The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep. Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early? We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine. On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between? Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10: + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched. On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post. On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts. On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again
On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post Make an example Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events. let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler. November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38 You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you. Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it. I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions. The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms. When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective? After but I kind fo figured beforehand.
Why didn't you check beforehand?
On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.
If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had?
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On November 05 2014 06:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 06:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Fuck. Never answered this one, did I? On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!
I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.
Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve! I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway. Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now! I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious. Already discussed my rationale behind this. After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote. Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom. How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis. It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand. Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this postI wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention. Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother. Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books. Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy? It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history. Then this post. On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep. Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early? We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine. On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post. Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between? Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10: + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched. On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post. On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts. On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again
On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post Make an example Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events. let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler. November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38 You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you. Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it. I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions. The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms. When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective? After but I kind fo figured beforehand. Why didn't you check beforehand? On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help. If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had? Other than my experience in SC2 Mafia some cops are called Detectives in real life and if I was Town Watcher he would of told Town Watcher not Detective/Cop
If you were Town Cop, he would have said Town Cop by that same logic.
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On November 05 2014 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ugh I hope neither LS or kelsier are cop. Cop dying before D2 is so bad.
I have a feeling Kelsier was joking around. There's no way he would have called it Detective, especially since after his "claim" he states several times that the role isn't called that, and it shouldn't be in a role PM.
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The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher.
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On November 05 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher. Yeah but as scum he would know that and wouldnt claim cop because if he is scum cop claim was probably to bait a CC
But nobody would oppose him that way. It's only when he's about to get lynched that he can buy himself another day. Then he can give out reads as needed. Maybe even sacrifice himself to kill two townies and waste a lynch, since, even though he dies, it stops any discussion? That last part I'm unsure about, but I could see myself doing a fakeclaim like that as scum.
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On November 05 2014 06:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:On November 05 2014 06:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
The problem with counterclaims is that we might have the setup with a doctor and a watcher. Yeah but as scum he would know that and wouldnt claim cop because if he is scum cop claim was probably to bait a CC But nobody would oppose him that way. It's only when he's about to get lynched that he can buy himself another day. Then he can give out reads as needed. Maybe even sacrifice himself to kill two townies and waste a lynch, since, even though he dies, it stops any discussion? That last part I'm unsure about, but I could see myself doing a fakeclaim like that as scum.
Forgot there was a roleblocker. Scratch that theory, ofc he'd just claim roleblock. Or if he was real cop he'd still be roleblocked.
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On November 05 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
btw im not the cop so you should probably unvote from LS and vote imma or sentinal, both would be good lynches
Why did you claim
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On November 05 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote:
plenty of time to switch over there,
imma and sentinal mafia team awesome
Did you ever finish your case on me or was it two sentences long?
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On November 05 2014 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 07:08 batsnacks wrote:
KSC if you are town that is literally the worst play I've ever seen and you should be ashamed. But you're not because town doesn't kill the uncced cop. I didn't believe the claim at all because he had played scummy all day , given terrible reads and then claimed "detective" which isn't even a role. I was trying to draw out the bluff. I rescended my claim in plenty of time for people to change votes and no one did. your mafia bats.
On November 05 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
btw im not the cop so you should probably unvote from LS and vote imma or sentinal, both would be good lynches
Three minutes?
You don't go into an eleventh-hour vote with "shenanis" as your intent. That's how scum sneaks their votes around in the confusion.
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