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Serejai
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On November 13 2014 21:46 Serejai wrote: sicklucker, as much as I hate to say it... you're town. Breshke also seems town based on his responses. Obiwan why do you doubt I am scum? That sounds like a convenient cover for you to use if I get lynched and flip town. "I told you guys!". You've admitted that you don't read the thread, and yet you're somehow confident I am town; even more confident than people like rayn who had me confirmed as town nearly all game. Do you know something the rest of us don't? Superbia, you didn't seem very convinced, either. Why is that? Out of everyone who has posted a comment, I would say the actual scum is either Obiwan, Elvis, or Superbia based on the responses. Fecal's responses could be seen as scummy but I'm more inclined to believe he's just a bad player; same reason I think sicklucker is town now. Because you conceding as mafia here makes no sense. Scum doesn't think like that. | ||
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sicklucker
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I have no fkn idea what to think of this... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
##vote Fecalfeast | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 12 2014 06:53 Superbia wrote: If you're already dedicating 2/3 lynches to myself and FF I feel there's a pretty fucking high chance we'll lose the game. Infact I think superbias looking really town lately. Hes pretty much ignored ff and defended him from time to time even tho him and ff were the top two lynches on alot of peoples lists. Hes sticking to his reads and not bandwagoning for easy mislynches. Everyones ignoring obi, DOnt you think a mafia would go for the easy misynch? I never looked into that ff thing that might have helped clear him because of the distraction. Its probably serejai being a dolt, im going to bed now and probably sleeping through the vote and he has not given me any reason to change it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
This post is way too townie to be mafia: On November 12 2014 07:06 Superbia wrote: I can't even properly fucking contest that shit man. I've had 4 games played and I'm looking to change my playstyle somewhat every single game. I tried a more in your face style during the newbie game, and I ended up losing that game. I replaced into FFM2 during essentially d2 into an essentially lost game, so that's a horrible example of my mafia play. If anything you want to look at the werewolf game, where I was mafia and we had a very active QT. If you don't think there's any good info in the post you quoted from this game then I don't even fucking know what to tell you. I made a morning d1 play to get shit going and probably decided that I had to justify my reads after I came back to the game because there was a massive train going on me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
never. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
##vote fecalfeast Alright fuck it ill take the safe player for now. I dont think I can ever leave serejai in on a lylo after this. I think this is the only vote we will have the numbers to vote off ff because rayns gonna get shot so this order makes sense If I want serejai ff + one of obi or elvis lynched | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 13 2014 14:56 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll give you both props, does that make it better? Shittiest town player of the game here, acknowledging the superior townplay of elvis and licksucker. Serejai could you pm BH that you concede? That'd be super I find this a bit scummy as well. From my interactions with him I dont truly believe he thinks he played worse them me or elvis. Maybe someone whos played with him a bit more can add onto this, is ff a modest person? | ||
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Elvis!
Germany396 Posts
As indicated by my posts, I thought this game was over, since it's not unlikely for scum to concede at this point. It's not like the atmosphere in this town wasn't terrible already. Now things are even more fucked up. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 13 2014 07:12 Elvis! wrote: Rayn guess why I'm still pushing my 5 day old case. He hasn't changed much yet and a lot of his posts are similair. Obviously not everything and obviously not everything I posted in that post is like 100% scummy. Though you must agree the things I posted about him don't paint him in good light. If you then consider his filter afterwards, which I did tell people to, he's dodging questions and since has mostly tried to: Make people read him town and try to confirm himself town so hard I can't even remotely understand . Like a third of his posts in the last days has basically been "I am confirmed town because A, I am confirmed town because B, this paints me town" and then his favourite "I did this, so therefore I cannot be scum". Like not only has he posted so much stuff that doesn't help town at all, he also with all that stuff spammed the thread, tried pocketing people which in you he apparently has, like why would he care, over a houndred hours before potential lylo, to have people read him town so much? Why would he not make proper cases? Why don't you make proper cases but instead blame people for all kinds of shit? Why haven't you made a case you are confident of on anyone? Also please, if you blame people so much, please tell me after reading his filter in an unbiased way, how you think he's not mafia. Put quotes, prove your points and so on. Or, if that's impossible to you I'd have you make a proper case on someone else. Yes, we have 3 lynches to place, but people are talking about who they are gonna pick for reasons displayed in like 5-10 lines, only very roughly scratching at the person. (irony on) We're not gonna find scum after 20 lynches this way I don't think. (irony off) Even if claims have been going on and stuff, I atm barely see anyone who I'd put in a town circle in this game and whose reads I'd trust to be decent, since noone is deeply looking at something since days. Will not change my vote if you don't give me good reason. Look at this guys filter. I don't have a lynching order, I'll lynch sicklucker, get convinced by someone else making a legitimate case, or die trying to lynch sicklucker. I don't like this post for one reason. I don't have to prove anyone is NOT mafia. You have to prove sicklucker is mafia, not the other way around. You gave these reasons: - Ignores negative things said about him. not scummy - Doesn't answer questions. guess what, you do that aswell, are you mafia too? - Is being useless. i disagree and you somehow cannot elaborate further on this... - Tries pocketing people. explain, i don't understand what do you mean. give examples - Tries to paint himself town. yeah townies do that too, at least i do. why wouldn't i try to look town as town ffs??? Again, elaborate on your case. You are just saying stuff and not providing evidence. Yes i read your post and it's not there. Over half of the post has nothing to do with anyone's alignment. The rest is you saying things without actual evidence. Also, i asked you to go into FF's filter and show some really townie/non-useless things there. Why did you ignore my request? It should be really easy thing to do because apperently you focus on "useless" people like sicklucker.... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
You said sicklucker has been pocketing me. I will now explain why this is completely wrong and nearly impossible. Here is the chain of event when i replaced into the game (i'll leave all irrelevant things to this matter out): N2: rayn (first post into the game): i think sicklucker is town rayn: i think Sentinel is scum and needs to be lynched asap sicklucker: yes i agree Sentinel is most likely mafia D3: rayn: let's kill sentinel sicklucker: ##sentinel Here is what happened amongst other things on N2-D3 start. Now sicklucker cannot possibly be pocketing me because i had a townread on him before he had any fucking chance to pocket me in the first place!!!! This translates into the following; When you are mafia and someone has a townread on you, you have more chances to convince them to lynch someone else. It is a fact anyone with any brain knows just because people listen to their townreads more than their scumreads. In case sicklucker was mafia he would have had a perfect chance to at least try to convince me into "Sentinel is not necessarily mafia" -- at least asking "why is Sentinel scum" is perfectly fine thing to do. He never did that, ever. Do you really it's more likely that he thought "oh well rayn is gonna lynch Sentinel whatever we (mafia) say" rather than he just actually had a scumread on Sentinel and his scumread was in line with mine? All the evidence based on how these things went down points to him having a similar thought process to mine and him agreeing with me, because what he did MAKES NO SENSE TO DO AS MAFIA AS HE HAD OPTIONS!!! I hadn't said anything -- immaterial was scummy for many people, hell he nearly got lynched on D1. Why the hell would mafia!sicklucker NOT try to discredit me when he has a chance, when i have not said any fucking thing in the game yet and my former slot owner was apparently scummmy?!?!? Does it make more sense to BUS instead??? I would like you to think about this... even a little bit, in case you are town. Because what you are suggesting in the first place makes NO SENSE!!! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
Serejai (2): FecalFeast, Breshke FecalFeast (2): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker Elvis! (1): , Serejai ObiWanShinobi (1): Superbia Sicklucker (1): Elvis! Not Voting (1): ObiWanShinobi Currently, Serejai is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Remember, voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. | ||
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Elvis!
Germany396 Posts
Look how many of his posts are "I'm town because", "I'm definitely not scum because [WIFOM]". Also, where did I ignore questions directed at me? Did you see what the questions directed at him tried to do and how he just said they're all terrible and he doesn't even wanna read it? Ignoring negative things said about him, well he ignores anything that's said about him. If he's scum, these questions are difficult to answer, if these he's scum he could expose information if he answers them. If he's town, there's nothing to lose when answering them. So as a conclusion, the only reason to ignore these questions is because you feel uncomfortable answering them or at most are lazy town. Being lazy and not reading/researching meanwhile is what he's done all game. He posts a lot of stuff, but these aren't researched things. These are impulsive ideas that most of the time don't get us anywhere. He posted so many plain wrong things, misconceptions and similair things that are just not acceptable as town. Then please show me where he made a serious case where he pushed someone because of a good amount of arguments and proof. He hasn't. None of his cases are reliable. He is very active in the thread but tell me where he's been useful. You say he isn't, but with what reasoning? You say you want examples of where he's pocketing people. Well, look at yourself. On the basis of what do you read him town? You never explained this is great detail, but him posting a lot and seeming active and talking about scenarios where he "must be townie" made you think so. Again I ask you: for what reasoning? There are a lot of reasons to believe he is scum and they line up well. He seems to have a strategy how to look town and follows that through. Looking from a perspective where he is mafia, what's his only aim at this point? Look townie. He tries a LOT to look townie. Looking from a perspective where he is townie, what's his aim at this point? Collect information and call out scum for good evidence. He has collected information, but has he called out scum with good evidence? I don't see it. Still voting him and since noone is posting cases it looks like I'm going to stick with it. Saying "I think this person is mafia, please vote for him" with a couple of "proofs" that aren't more than wild guesses "the person is mafia, because [insert WIFOM argument here]" isn't making a case. A last argument I want to make is how many of his arguments he constantly pulls back. "Medic should claim" "i guess he shouldn't". "This person is scummy" someone posts something different "i guess he isn't". Also, a lot of his lynch reasoning is who is possible to be lynched today, especially already very early in the day. Mafia likes voting on the easy targets, he loves it. Also talking shit (and I'm not exaggerating) about people because they made a post about him and pleading that people should ignore it? The people can think for themselves, they can decide if it's bad or worthy, if he thinks it's not dangerous for him why does he care? So many things he posts are not only non-townie but very likely to have scum motivation behind them. Also, look like he points out how serejai "pocketed" me, even though in his world she's town? Logic please? I never even said she's town? Also why me over everyone else? She didn't agree more to my posts about you than a couple of others. You're trying to make connections that don't exist. If I believe anyone to be town here it's probably Breshke. | ||
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Elvis!
Germany396 Posts
You disprove yourself being pocketed how? By thinking he's townie (which is you getting pocketed) and saying he didn't try to convince you not to lynch sentinel? Have you read the day posts when sent got lynched? Saying anything against a lynch this prominent, especially since it was so likely to go through, would have been his death sentence today! Like he couldn't have done anything more stupid than that wild scenario. Also this is the essence of what WIFOM means. Like what's this post. | ||
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