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Why would the role claim/why would the role counterclaim? It'll just get him shot. So I'm 100% the person who claims isn't the powerrole and is either a VT trying to take a shot or scum trying to be confirmed town. | ||
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He wasn't the only person posting reads on the last 36 hours. Not saying it's me, since IF it would be Serejai or sicklucker one of them would basically be confirmed scum. Still this isn't obvious. I want Sentinel to post more on recent things, which he is gonna do after his hangover I guess? Don't see him as a sure mafia as of now, even though he does, and for most of the game did On November 09 2014 05:40 sicklucker wrote: elvis (sure sicklucker thank you for pointing out you dislike me by saying I don't see him scum, even though I posted a case about him already)(making a person you think is town look bad is exactly what we want). like at this point I just see him as either donkey scum or town, this sicklucker guy. But I'm not the only one at that so it's okay. I just don't like him making people ignore everything I say because I made a push on him. Also I dislike the fact that people seem to blindly believe rayn at times, like for me he's null at this point and he's replacing someone with basically no filter. Just because he's more experienced doesn't make him a saint or something. Maybe that's just people jumping on every "new" idea or rather rephrasing they see, but that's just me. On November 09 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote: WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM Also people please please stop talking about "but that wouldn't be a good play as scum". 90% of these things are WIFOM. Like "it would be terrible play for kelsier to cc and reclaim, because as mafia that would kill him instantly". Well, he isn't dead, so apparently not. | ||
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Why the fuck are you hunting blues? Like there is 0 reason for that and plus that it helps mafia in obvious ways?! Like if town spends time figuring blues out they only help mafia and only waste time for town hunting for scum. These are reasons why I call this guy donkey town/scum. | ||
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Apparently I'm maifa. What. On November 09 2014 21:46 Serejai wrote: True. They both seem to want our medic dead, but there's a difference. Sicklucker wants our medic to reveal and has been blue hunting all game. He goes for the medic directly. Elvis goes for me all game - keeping in mind that scum thought I was the doctor - and only switched to sicklucker after he started talking about the medic so much. Elvis is going after the player he thinks is the medic and hasn't contributed anything else to the thread all game. He kept his vote on me D1 for no reason in order to stay under the radar when cop was lynched. He stayed out of voting for kush yesterday even though he thought kush was scum. One of those seems scum. The other seems naive town. Uhm why would scum have thought you are the doctor? Uhm I started going on sicklucker way before he talked about the medic at all. I had some people consider changing to you on day1, which is why I stuck with my vote of who I thought was mafia. I posted multiple times that I don't think kush is a good lynch. Like I was about to be reading you null or even leaning town since your posts were a lot more productive recently but why are you saying you caught scum when you didn't even correctly read my filter? I'll just pretend that didn't happen I guess? On November 09 2014 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/red]Elvis you need to explain this. Here's what you say on N1 start: Here's one of your D2 posts: From what i gather your D2 posts you had sicklucker and Kelsier as scum. You didn't want to vote for Kelsier because he was going to get modkilled in your mind. Now what exactly made you change your mind from N1? You made a big fucking post on KSC which ended up you analyzing him as "i don't know if he is town or mafia", yet on D2 you say "this is the ONLY thing he has done that's scummy and i think it makes him mafia". So again, how did the null-tell become a massive scumtell? Uhm if you read the bigger of those two quotes of mine it says that I'm unsure if he's either weird scum or weird town. Then in the small quote I said that outside of his one really scummy action (which I pointed out earlier and on which I commented on earlier with the big quote) I don't see him being scummy. Please also consider the context in which this was written. People were on sicklucker and then they wanted to switch to KSC for just that, which I don't think is enough of a reasoning. Also you can't convince people of your case unless you tell them that their case is ok, but yours is better for reasons. If you just tell them their case sucks they'll just feel offended and not consider changing. This was pre everyone-goes-on-kush. People, especially Breshke, were considering Kush but not many at that point. | ||
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Well that's a huge change! | ||
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On November 10 2014 02:21 Serejai wrote: The fact that you still think I'm scum says volumes about how useless you are if you were actually town. You also only ever post in the thread when people call you scum. Quick yo defend but when you're not being accused you just afk from the thread. Why not help the town instead? Uhm I didn't call you scum. Read my posts before you judge me being useless? | ||
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On November 10 2014 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where do you say the action is scummy in the first post because apparently i am missing it. You lay out the possibilities and say you do not know if it's scummy or not. What am i missing? I said that he's either clever scum or weird town. In the next post I repeat that this one thing of him was very scummy but that I'm not sure about him. Why is me rephrasing the same thing with a slightly different thought process and in a completely different surrounding something of big importance? | ||
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I was sure the act is scummy. I didn't know if he is scum because of it or weird town (because weird town can make scummy actions) | ||
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I always thought the act was scummy. I just didn't, and still don't know if there was mafia motivation behind it. Also, a lot of people asked KSC why he did it already at that point. No need to repeat that once more. | ||
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I'm sorry for phrasing it weirdly. | ||
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I call something scummy if it hurts town, is not reasonable in any way and if it's likely to have scum motivation. For me, bad/weird/horrible/misguided town can make scummy things. Normal town doesn't, but KSC wasn't ever considered normal town. About Serejai. Yes, a part of my push on him was connected with Kelsier. To make it clear, the scumteams I formed were never the primary focus. The primary focus on my pushes was always, that these people had a couple of scummy (see above) actions to their name and namely sicklucker didn't respond to questions I found easy to answer if he was town. I never "dropped the whole thing and ended up on sicklucker". Well guess what sicklucker wasn't there at the beginning when I pushed Serejai the most, and he came in with a billion posts that I consider scummy and not much that helps town. Then I push him and he doesn't answer my/serejais/batsnacks/ffs questions and just dodges them, which I considered scummy behaviour because, as ff stated it, if he would be town it wouldn't be a problem to answer them. Instead he called my push bad/bullshit and so on without reasoning and just told people they should ignore me because of it. I never in that said that KSC is town / Serejai is town. The only thing I posted since on the matter is that I was about to consider Serejai townie because of her recent posts and since she wasn't doing many scummy things for some time. Then she started posting badly researched (see my post like a couple of hours ago) things that paint me scummy and useless once more. So to sum it up: I still believe KSC's actions on EoD1 were scummy, but since he stopped posting after and had townie behaviour during Day1 I didn't vote him or push him a ton. He still fitted into a scum team, but it was more the other person being scum and KSC fitting in. Now KSC obviously got replaced. I voted for Serejai since I considered my scumread on her the strongest. The sicklucker became apparent and I was really sure about him being mafia (still not happy with his posts, but since he isn't getting pressured anymore the shit coming out of his mouth got less. Like his filter before and in the time after my push on him was ridiculous). Again, my case on Serejai was mostly not about KSC. I hope this explains what happened at the time. | ||
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He was way too obvious being terrible/high, like why would people not bus him if they are scum. Easy towncred, potential to actually win. Like imagine if sicklucker was scum and he would have defended him. Game would be lost for mafia. Also this makes even more sense if he is getting wagon'd. Rayn why do you think it doesn't make sense for him to bus kush if kush wasn't even trying? to your previous question: At the moment I stand here: I still think there is no reason not to call SL mafia. I still stand to my case on him, since there is nothing that nullifies it and he has done so many scummy and unexcusable things, as example what ff posted very recently. I already said what I think of Serejai atm in my recent posts. KSC is being played by someone else, so: I'm waiting for Obi to fully catch up and post stuff of worth, then I can decide how he might be aligned. | ||
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On November 10 2014 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe Elvis to be mafia. While he seems inconsistent at times he shows he has some sort of thought process that he can actually argue for and he does it. Cava fucking off from the game totally doesn't really make him look townie. I liked Kelsier but then again he is not new because he is capable of very skilled play, at least as town. I would think he could do that as mafia aswell. My problem is the targets Superbia is proposing look really fucking good for me but otherwise his posting and activity -- compared to his earlier scum/town games does look way way way more like his scumplay. It's like he is more cocky and doesn't give any fucks about how he looks as town and in this game he seems more interested in how other people view him rather than convincing people his targets are mafia. I support this, he usually is way more in-your-face | ||
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