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On November 01 2014 00:17 Misder wrote:
I realized that my vote to analyze Circumstance was a bit too vote happy, but I guess it doesn't make a difference now.
First he comes out of the left field votes LT. Then tries to make something out nothing with the cat. Wants to analyze obi but votes for circumstance instead...whaaa? And then this post. I really dont get what his thought processes were. Number 1 scum atm.
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On November 01 2014 06:07 ritoky wrote:
speaking of odd people. anyone else find damdred odd?
i read his filter cuz i don't really remember anything about him in the game and i was surprised to find 2 pages. all of it seems to be pretty soft-ball questions with 0 follow-up and very vague general and ambiguous statements. outside of a half of a push on GB he doesn't seem to be interested in pushing a scum read at this point.
I like this guy how he transitioned from jokey to srs when it was needed and is pushing the discussion fwd. Insight on ve was helpful cos i dont know ve. But damd always does this on day 1 not a good lynch day 1 anyway day 2 if he keeps up this charade if asking questions then we can consider him.
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On October 31 2014 19:37 risk.nuke wrote:
So have anyone heard of just saying, 'I want to analyze this player'. And then not immediately locking your analyze vote.
The Cat feel super much like third party. And hi.
Did he roll scum first time? only post rly...whats there to say.
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On October 31 2014 15:36 jrkirby wrote:Yah, idk about Lord Tolkein. He's made only one post that I'd consider slightly townie. + Show Spoiler +On October 31 2014 12:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 12:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder: circumstance and damdred probably couldn't be mafia together. I don't think mafia damdy would call out his mafia partner for a slip like that.
So, at least one town between them. lies, LIES I've seen mafia wifom this shit d1 yo, esp since this is weaker than a wisp The rest has been a waste of keystrokes. If the day ended right now, I wouldn't mind it if he were lynched.
Why so srs guy. Serious but surprisingly no content except this. Finds a townie post of LT but votes him anyway...cos the rest were jokes hmm. Maybe we think differently i see ppl with humor in good light although LT isnt really funny. I still cant understand him so scummy for now
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On November 01 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 07:16 liancourt wrote:On October 31 2014 15:36 jrkirby wrote:Yah, idk about Lord Tolkein. He's made only one post that I'd consider slightly townie. + Show Spoiler +On October 31 2014 12:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 12:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder: circumstance and damdred probably couldn't be mafia together. I don't think mafia damdy would call out his mafia partner for a slip like that.
So, at least one town between them. lies, LIES I've seen mafia wifom this shit d1 yo, esp since this is weaker than a wisp The rest has been a waste of keystrokes. If the day ended right now, I wouldn't mind it if he were lynched. Why so srs guy. Serious but surprisingly no content except this. Finds a townie post of LT but votes him anyway...cos the rest were jokes hmm. Maybe we think differently i see ppl with humor in good light although LT isnt really funny. I still cant understand him so scummy for now Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 13:12 liancourt wrote:
Kirby doesnt look awkward to me any hes answering evrrything and if he wants to play serious ok let him play serious. If he doesnt play serious and posts jibberish later then I ll have to consider him scum.
circum seems logical using lofty words. I get the feeling he has no emotion like havung a poker face for some reason. I look forward to seeing his logical posts later on. If he doesnt make sense scum.
What happened to this read? I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusions; but earlier you said he doesn't look awkward and is answering everything seriously. Now you criticize him for being serious and say he has no content. But he was answering everything, how does that make sense? Also, you were posting at the same time when he made that post and didn't respond to it in any way; yet waited until now to bring it up. Why would you do that if you find it so odd?
reads evolve, i evolved my read on him because he didn't deliver. I don't think I'm criticizing him anywhere in my post, I merely state a fact that he's being serious, there's nothing wrong with being serious, but I assumed being serious meant giving some content and decent scum reads. I'm not a perfect man. I miss things and just skim the the thread and try to focus on the big picture and not tunnel on 1 person because I've had bad experience regarding tunneling and when I get time or when the thread seems stagnant i go back and re read the thread or go filter diving like i was doing previously.
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On November 01 2014 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Fair enough.
I always put "lololol" while quoting posts I find careless. Anyway, you've made a point which I think it's fair.
What bothers me isn't your inactivity, VE. I just believe that you have a tendency of being more insightful when you're town. I've given plenty of insights. The following are insights I've made in the thread: HF and Misder seem to be thinking critically about the game > town GB seems genuinely aggressive > town JayB seems to be buddying me > mafia? risk.nuke seems to be third-party hunting > mafia! That's like four more insights than like 3/4 of the players in the game! How about you define "insightful" for me if inactivity isn't your beef?
can u point me to a post you think misder has been thinking critcally about the game?
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On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective.
i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so
##Analyze risk.nuke
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On November 01 2014 09:08 Blazinghand wrote:
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23206369
23206369 mod 17 = 9
9th player is glowingbear
##vote GlowingBEAR
GB, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.
hey remember when me u and obi discussed this shit about RNG in our last game that was so fucking funny and ur doing it again lmao
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On November 01 2014 09:35 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:On November 01 2014 09:20 jrkirby wrote:
BH why didn't you let us discuss rng lynch before culculating the rng so we can tell if anybody changes their mind about rng based on the outcome of it? This is a fair question. The fact of the matter is, every rng lynch discussion that doesn't roll the dice goes like this. People basically vaguely talk about how rng is not great, or talk about stats about historical rng, or whatever. Nobody gets invested, nobody cares, nobody gives away reads, nobody is under pressure, and nobody gets lynched. Take a look at the low tier policy talk in ANY game. What makes me, and my RNG, different, is that it selects a target before people discuss whether it's good or not. Now scum are on the line. Now they suddenly feel a need to justify or NOT justify voting for or not voting for GB, who is probably their scumbuddy. They're in a tough spot and it absolutely wrecks scumteams. I'm different than most people, jrkirby. Most people don't policy. Most people don't have the rock-hard, cast-iron BALLS to push policy like I do. Policy isn't REAL unless you're willing to go balls to the wall to lynch your policy target. And by jove, I WILL lynch GB, just as I've lynched so many others with the power of RNG. It is inevitable. I guess this is fair enough to me. I have a slight town-lean read on GB, but I think RNG can be very powerful day 1. If anyone trys RNG after day one, I will want to lynch you though. So I'm going to drop my slight town read on GB and my vote on the unproductive LT in favor of the power of RNG. This is a hearthstone flavored game here. Just so everyone knows, this is a vote for RNG, not for GB in particular. BY FIRE BE PURGED. + Show Spoiler +Cause Ragnaros has a random target, yeah?
really? ur going to vote RNG, the person who has been driving convo along? For real?
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On November 01 2014 09:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Plus GlowingBear is not like OO
He will not quit
bh said he likes the victims to squirm a bit before they die. i wonder what case bh comes up with lol
But cmon this is just wrong.
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On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote:
So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke?
is there a case for risk? He's a lurker. The end. You're ok with having GB as a backup lynch when he's been carrying the discussion when risk has done absolutely nothing? The mind boggles. Scummy
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On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 11:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Circumstance giving that your reason for holding on to your reads isn't necessary there can not be a No-Lynch. I would like you to put who you suspect on the table. Echoing GB Even if your reads are half baked it helps to see your thought process and how you arrived there. I do have some questions for you as well.
You bring up risk.nuke what's your reasoning for wanting to lynch him?
How do you feel about Oats? Do you still think hes worth analyzing? What's your read on him?
LT has quite a bit of votes on him but you haven't mentioned him as a candidate. Why is that?
Who is your ideal lynch candidate?
I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone.
it's like seeing myself in my first game.
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On November 01 2014 13:29 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote:On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
To clarify things:
I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret.
I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case.
Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none.
This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow.
fuck my life.
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misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then.
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On November 01 2014 00:50 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 22:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 31 2014 15:08 Seuss wrote:
He basically jumped hard on the first person to post anything remotely suspicious. The post in question wasn't fantastic but it seemed really opportunistic to me. so you admit that it's at least remotely suspicious and that he drove the discussion forward on this point, why is it scummy then? Emphasis on remote, and emphasis on the opportunism. jrkirby's post was pretty useless and as part of a larger case I'd accept it as a point against him, but on it's own it's the sort of thing I see Town players do all the time when the rest of the game is still joking around. It's an easy pitch to swing at to try and grab some town cred if you're scum.
this is monte regarding his opinion on gb. It's the only content worthy thing in his filter. I can see where he's coming from, but gb has done much more so I'm hoping monte posts if he still thinks of gb this way still.
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On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new." When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc) You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then. Where do you stand on Circumstance? Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me. ##Analyze: JBI kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
the post i quoted made me change my mind about him because it was reminiscent of my first time play here. I was hesitant to give strong reads and was apprehensive to make scum reads because I wasnt sure and was afraid of being wrong, kind of what I felt from that post because it was the emobodiment of hesitation and unsuredness. I can relate to that and understand it so I'm willing to give him more time to prove himself.
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On November 01 2014 15:07 Misder wrote:Tolkien, is you getting lynched beneficial to town? Why post the way you are posting now? Seems like some people still think I'm scum. I'll just look at Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 06:45 liancourt wrote:On November 01 2014 00:17 Misder wrote:
I realized that my vote to analyze Circumstance was a bit too vote happy, but I guess it doesn't make a difference now. First he comes out of the left field votes LT. Then tries to make something out nothing with the cat. Wants to analyze obi but votes for circumstance instead...whaaa? And then this post. I really dont get what his thought processes were. Number 1 scum atm. Why do you think that voting for Tolkien in my first post was bad? It was nothing because no one wanted to analyze quickly with me. I changed my mind about Obi, and voted fo analyze Circumstance cause he was the one I wanted to analyze at the time. Not understanding thought processes is not an argument against me. Since jaybrundage has so many votes to analyze him, everyone should just vote him, since once majority hits, the cat will speak (given correct info from cat). Sorry, don't think I have time before I sleep tonight to talk about what's happened since I last posted. From the rough skim, I'm ok with a risk.nuke lynch for now.
can u explain why you changed your mind and why you wanted to analyze circ?
ur vote entry didn't seem natural.
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On November 02 2014 00:55 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 00:45 Damdred wrote:
because i hate lynching the biggest filter on d2 just like on d1 its just a bad idea generally.
GB we've been over your meta a lot, you are more standoffish as scum and you are fluff make promises that you don't keep and when you do its just bad. Right now you have 2/3 scum traits right now. So if i had a gun i might shoot you but i don't. I can be lazy as town and not deliver the case I promised at the right time. I've done this a lot. Like, lol. And you've only said 1 scum trait which is actually a null tell. You made a case on why you think someone is TOWN when he isn't really getting lynched. What the hell are you doing?
I've actually never seen damd make a case on day 1 and on for someone who is town even. It's unlike him. He usually just throws out questions here and there...
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On November 02 2014 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 01:59 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2014 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:
i just copy pasted my notes its not like i spent any considerable amount of time i answered a question posed to me in the best manner I could. Nobody asked me about my reads in general they asked about one specific person and why i read him that way so i showed it, so don't paint me for that.
Look at the other reasons people are giving for voting for people, not contributing, approaching badly etc.. So stop attacking me for not having a huge case on people doing nothing basically all day, gb admits to being super lazy and just fuck everyone else. And its not null tells gb its your scum tells.
Oats you have no room to talk buddy ohhhh noooo I have plenty of room to talk. YOU HAVE NO SCUM READS DUDE. This is false, I have three scum reads currently explain with quotes and references, 500 words, 12 pt arial, double spacing, justified.
we're writing dissertations on mafia now? lol
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