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On November 02 2014 00:04 jrkirby wrote: Am I a complete buffoon here? What is alakaslam's real opinion on RNG? The joke is "TL is so collectively bad at mafia RNG is better at finding scum D1". Unless I'm horribly wrong you're casing him for being sarcastic. Ignoring Alakaslam, do you have another scum read? | ||
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The timing of Damdred's vote-extension is scummy as hell. Almost immediately after GlowingBear began asserting that he'd caught Damdred in a lie, Damdred breadcrumbed his role and shortly thereafter that Follow the Rules happened. This play screams, "Shit I've been caught, better use my power to save myself." I'd expect a Town player to expend far more effort trying to preserve their useful power than just blow it on themselves the moment they get in trouble. On that note I'm suspicious of LordTolkien because of his defense of Damdred. I think there's a pretty good that he's scum if Damdred is. At best LordTolkien is oblivious to the scrutiny Damdred was already under, and at worst he's trying to reframe events to make Damdred's desperate act of self-preservation seem Towny. I'm a little suspicious of Obiwan as well but it would be pretty horrible play for two scum to come out with the same bad/oblivious "what's the scum motivation" defense when there's such an obvious scum motivation. | ||
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On November 03 2014 08:31 Lord Tolkien wrote: ohai, whats the reasoning for your vote You haven't been scumhunting and you put a concerning amount of effort into defending Damdred. I'd prefer Damdred but you're not a bad compromise. | ||
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On November 03 2014 09:46 jrkirby wrote: That's something that occurred to me. But if he were scum, there wouldn't be so many people voting for him. Why is circumstance voting for him? With no chatting in thread either. That sounds kinda like scum trying to finish up a lynch on Misder is still a jungle panther (stealthed) keeping his vote on him since forever ago before he really started playing. Kinda scummy. Risk is scummy for other reasons. He's just voting LT because it's the other wagon. The bolded section is a bad argument at best. Ignore the votes, what in LordTolkien's post history is towny? | ||
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On November 03 2014 16:38 VisceraEyes wrote: He's on my list man. I'm going to bed now but he's on my short list of people to filter tomorrow including Oats and Suess. In more serious news I'm still suspicious of Damdred. ObiWanShinobi made some good points about GlowingBear's notes-based case, but LordTolkien piggybacked on that to try to deflect pressure away from Damdred. It's pretty much the only meaningful thing LordTolkien did D1 before he himself came under considerable pressure. | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:07 Damdred wrote: Oh my, well....thats some odd kills, BH just wanted to kill GB not sure what was going on their unless my case on gb convinced the vig to get gb... Either way Obi and Jay you both should claim probably since one of you are going to die. This is a scummy post. | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:12 Damdred wrote: Seuss you think everthing I say is scummy probably and keep pointing to me. Its like you are soft pushing a lynch or trying to on me Let me check off the scumtell boxes here:
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On November 04 2014 13:29 VisceraEyes wrote: So whoever made Suess immune isn't claiming, so I have to assume it's mafia-aligned. And while that doesn't make Suess mafia, it doesn't make him look great so a Damdred vote is less appealing immediately. And risk has been just universally impactless the whole game. I like a risk.nuke lynch just as much as a Damdred lynch tbh. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/py1Gp3g.png) | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote: I guess you're claiming that you did it via your role to yourself? Okay, that's not alignment indicative for you then I guess. Just saying the role fishing going on here is pretty ridiculous. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: For a better explanation, I see him asking a lot of good questions and his reads are congruent with the goings-on of the thread. It's simple, but I find it to be effective. That and I don't see scum Damdred coming up with 8 pages like this. Who cares though. I care! I think he's been pretty scummy. Here's why. First this post: On November 01 2014 08:20 Damdred wrote: Sure I'm thinking you could very well be scum right now. I have a town read on hf, oats, jay right now as well as loan. misar is a scum lean When GlowingBear prodded Damdred for reads this is what we got. Essentially, it's an OMGUS + a bunch of random contextless reads. I'm not impressed by anyone's ability to pull names out of a hat, hence why I picked what I considered the most controversial read and asked him for clarification. To his credit he did clarify, and he wouldn't have gotten more notice from me except for how he reacted to GlowingBear's pressure. It's not the "notes" nonsense that caught my attention but the incredibly selfish use of his vote extension. I talked about this before. In addition he was so concerned about GlowingBear leading a train on him he later said this: On November 03 2014 07:15 Damdred wrote: Looking at the votes and the amount of people going afk (GB will jump on the chance) that will give me at least 4 votes and the way votes are looking the easiest path to consolidation is me or Lt. I'm still catching up busy day at work so far will post thoughts in a sec From start to finish Damdred was purely concerned with self-preservation. That's not a pro-Town mindset, not remotely. Following that Damdred deflected off LordTolkien to risk.nuke: On November 03 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote: Why should he claim? We have already been over that role=/=alignment I believe right? I think risk thing about promising to contribute tommorow instead of right now is scummy, if he's been skimming he should know lynch is between me Lt risk so he should be able to give thoughts on the two. On November 03 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote: I don't think we should lynch Lt.. I read his scum game on break...not sure at all risk.nuke is the lynch Finally when LordTolkien flipped scum this is Damdred's sentiment: On November 03 2014 12:17 Damdred wrote: Now that he flipped mafia i feel a bit better but i wish i would of been on him early now.... This isn't a Town mindset. Town doesn't give a damn when they put their vote down on a scum. D2 isn't any better. He opened with NK speculation and role fishing: On November 04 2014 12:07 Damdred wrote: Oh my, well....thats some odd kills, BH just wanted to kill GB not sure what was going on their unless my case on gb convinced the vig to get gb... Either way Obi and Jay you both should claim probably since one of you are going to die. And flung mud at me when I called him on it: On November 04 2014 12:12 Damdred wrote: Seuss you think everthing I say is scummy probably and keep pointing to me. Its like you are soft pushing a lynch or trying to on me Then his shenanigans with the least-useful power ever started. I felt like I was watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail watching him dance around the magic word. Again, I'd expect a Town player to just come out and say what the word was rather than cross their fingers and hope scum found the trap card first. Lastly we can add co-opting the opinions of the dead to his list of scum plays: On November 05 2014 07:55 Damdred wrote: That was a bit underwhelming but thanks obi lol. Though GB said I was town before he died. Anyway risk do something I think Damdred is pretty clearly scum and I would much, much rather we lynch him over risk.nuke today. | ||
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On November 05 2014 09:11 jaybrundage wrote: @Seuss Regarding your Dramdred case: What do you think of his GB case? It was his recent big case. Why did you choose to exclude it from your case? Also I find it odd you say townies don't have a self preservation mind set. A town only knows his alignment. One of a townies biggest job is to prove there own townieness, and by extension not get lynched. Maybe I missed it but I didn't see a big GB case, just a lot of "this isn't GB's town meta" prior to LordTolkien's flip. The whole GB thing was pretty OMGUS. A town's biggest job is to hunt scum, and by extension look townie, and by extension not get lynched. There are no awards for being the last town standing in a town loss. Damdred's reaction to coming under a small amount of pressure wasn't to try to hunt scum, push the game forward, or do anything townie, it was to immediately attempt to use his power as a get out of jail free card. That's not the act of someone thinking about what's best for Town, that's someone who's looking out for #1. | ||
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