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On October 26 2014 07:41 DrParnassus wrote: that's me, if you're looking for old games look up thrawn2112 Too lazy to ever read other games (especially if I did not participate), but thanks for the answer. | ||
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On October 26 2014 07:47 Alakaslam wrote: Ya hey der Superbia. Wazzapp Reading thread, watching some videos, listening to some music. On what day do you stop talking like the riddler? | ||
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On October 26 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote: I don't get it. Elvis made 1 (!) big post and that is enough for you to metaread him as town without ever seeing his scumplay? Wut? Do you have any opinion on the content of the post? I've read the post and it felt like a really standard coached newbie town post. Like step by step how to push on who you think is possibly scum (i.e. explain to town how you feel about that person -> detailed explanation on why you think this is scummy). Especially the detailed explanation on why he thinks that is mafia behaviour stood out to me here. I didn't really care much about the content (as it is 2000 pages ago), but I feel like it's newbie town. Enough for him to start off leaning town for me (it'd be a d1 pass, but too late). | ||
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On October 26 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote: I am a bit disappointed that marv isn't posting today. If I die tonight you need to force him to be active day2. Don't just give him a pass. Is he usually inactive d2? | ||
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On October 26 2014 08:24 justanothertownie wrote: It's not about day2. If he is town he will be active on his own and probably pretty obvious. If he is scum - who knows. But make sure that you don't let him live if he isn't posting a good amount and makes sense. Couldn't you say the exact same thing about me? Why are you scared that he won't get pressured? | ||
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On October 26 2014 08:28 justanothertownie wrote: I think regarding the activity you can say that about you too. But you are here, correct? Marv is not. I am scared because marv can easily come up with some posts that look decent and there are always people that will give him a pass for it. Fair enough. | ||
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On October 26 2014 06:34 kushm4sta wrote: @superbia, please give thoughts on rayne and alakaslam. Some fucking mindmeld shit going on here. I actually would prefer to lynch both at some point in time. Slam just posts confusing (albeit funny) shit. Rayn posts bad one-liners and WIFOM shit. Slam gets townread by some people for essentially no reason. Rayn gets townread because of his "bad reads". Gut says rayn feels somewhat more scummy than slam, but that's probably because slam is amusing. They are mainly just question marks to me, and the game would be better without them. | ||
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Both newfriends (FF/Elvis, now Marv) are probably town. Explained Elvis already. FF is being sarcastic and funny. He isn't really doing anything but he also doesn't seem scared of being lynched. Last game I played he was scum and became serious as soon as people (I) were (was) pushing on him. Damdred is leaning scum for me atm. Only noticed this post: + Show Spoiler + On October 23 2014 23:30 Damdred wrote: I always joke about rolling onto a scum team with bats and with kush in this game it becomes even better. I think bats still gets messages from kush about passes. And to be honest, rolling scum is tiring you have to fake everything can't post to much or give things away. Hard to fake reads etc, so yea I really wanted to play my last game and couldn't so i'm happy i finally get to play a game instead of sitting on the sidelines if that makes sense. @Storr, I was asked what my scum leans were I said who and why. They were both legitimate reasons and the reasons I lean'd you as scum haven't changed at all your tone still sounds fake, feels like you are just going through the motions. And I actually you know found the game where you talked about your tunneling and if it was a town tell or not. @HF could you tell me what you th ink of robiks post? in which it becomes clear he's definitely not scum guys! None of his other posts made it into my (death) note book, which is a bad sign. Liancourt is also leaning scum for me at the moment. I liked his initial meta-read on storr (it was wrong, but it seemed townie). He then gets townread because he’s happy and carefree and proceeds to do fuck all the rest of the game. Shit like this also feels scummy to me: + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2014 04:07 liancourt wrote: Thrawn and slam have said rayns town i have no idea where they are getting this from Good question, why is rayn being townread by thrawn (drparnassus) and slam? Pressure is being put on Parnassus (lian should be happy) and then he’s like: + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2014 06:07 liancourt wrote: Is superbia actually playing this game? “Where’s this one afker guys???” Why are you diverting attention when someone is being pressured who you were questioning? Feels scummy and possibly aligns lian with Parnassus. GlowingBear is leaning town for me. Had some decentish posts. Specifically liked his case on lian. Kushm4sta is null for me atm. I only recall his short overview (list) post of which the shortness felt townie to me (i.e. mafia would’ve probably put in more effort), but I can’t really recall what was in it. Holyflare is mafia for me at the moment. I liked his initial reaction to parnassus’ opening post, that’s it. Two posts stood out to me: + Show Spoiler + On October 23 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote: Glad we are doing things.... Either way, I've seen 2 people (robik and (storr??)) say that gb is town when he's posted literally nothing, not to mention that robik had called me and gb town but then retroactively wanted to take that back based on another post of mine which meant he hadn't actually read anything other than page 1 of the thread Thrawn has some weird double association read which i don't like at all and is quite frankly weird to begin with because he is town reading one of the most unreadable players (as is rayn) Feels like a lot of information but is actually a complete air post. Saying literally nothing here, and made me suspicious. Then comes this (le) gem: + Show Spoiler + On October 24 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote: let's all back away from fecal for a bit and I want him to post concisely his surmised points on why someone (lian?) is mafia rather than just going back and forth about one thing or another, that way all his thoughts are in one place and we can connect them to what he's been saying through the thread Absolutely no need to defend FF here. The pressure was mediocre at best at this point in time. Seems like mafia trying to get free townie points here. Town would’ve just asked FF for his points on lian without taking away the pressure. Yeah, he pushed (and voted) on bats early on, but I don’t recall him contributing much to the push during the EoD. Also I would’ve probably bussed badsnacks if I was his partner too. IamRobik is leaning town to me. Most of his posts feel townie (though different from last game I played with him). Justanothertownie is slightly leaning town to me. Had a tryhard and pushy opening, followed by some straightforward neutral townposts. DrParnassus is leaning scum to me. I loved his first post, and don’t recall any of his other posts. Strong opening followed by weak play is probably scum. Also this recent post really ticked me off: + Show Spoiler + On October 26 2014 07:24 DrParnassus wrote: Fecalfeast if you are town then it should be so obvious to you that I'm town. If I was mafia I could have buried you yesterday because that's where the thread sentiment (mainly talking about JAT who was doing a lot of the talking) was going once people decided they might not want to lynch me. This feels like mafia trying to salvage losing a team-mate d1 (i.e. trying to get something positive out of the lynch, which the lynch is already very positive for town is scummy). | ||
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On October 26 2014 09:32 justanothertownie wrote: Super are you completely caught up? Ya pretty much. | ||
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On October 26 2014 09:34 justanothertownie wrote: Do you seriously expect me to believe that a townie that just replaced in and read the game after a fucking scumlynch posts his thoughts and they are completely devoid of any analysis that has anything to do with the lynch? Nice loaded question. | ||
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On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote: The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude. Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive. | ||
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On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote: So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch? From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced? | ||
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On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote: No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch. You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1. | ||
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On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote: Reading comprehension = non existent. I didn't say anything like that. I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate). | ||
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On October 26 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, and I am telling you that I didn't say anything like that. Of course that is possible. But nobody goes into day1 with the plan "we are bussing today". They might bus. They might even actively bus. But they don't really want to bus. And all of that is besides the point anyways. Like I already said EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A BUS YOU STILL ANALYSE THE LYNCH. I read that the meta used to be to do this every single game. But whatever. I've given my thoughts on the lynch before. I didn't draw any direct conclusions from it at this point in time. That's it. If you have any more questions, shoot, I'm going to sleep soon. | ||
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On October 26 2014 10:17 justanothertownie wrote: Where did you read that bullshit? And yeah I will soon go to bed too. Can't remember. I think it was a guide on a mafia wiki. | ||
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We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today. Lynch today should be in the list of: justanothertownie marvellosity GlowingBear kushm4sta Fecalfeast Superbia In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though. | ||
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On October 27 2014 11:25 justanothertownie wrote: You have a deathwish, don't you? Did you not say you were feeling better about be after giving me a townlean yesterday? Now I am your top scum suspect suddenly? Don't take it personal bro, PoE. Also I've seen your scum game and it's pretty good (i.e. no idea how to read you). So ya, I'd probably prefer to kill you here. | ||
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Weren't you trying to cover my ass yesterday? | ||
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On October 27 2014 11:29 Fecalfeast wrote: OK so you're taking every blue claim in a game of scum desperation at face value? This list is actually out of left field to me. Your list post has all of these people as town/townleaning. You just made a list that is the EXACT opposite of your other list. Everyone outside of that list claimed un-cced blue or is confirmed town due to blue claims. You realize that, right? The only problem is with damd/robik, one of which is flipping EoD. So yeah, no one on my scumlist is currently lynchable, | ||
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On October 27 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote: After this post of yours, I'm sure you're mafia. For this single post. Why did you defend me yesterday but now you completely switch around? | ||
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On October 27 2014 11:32 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe it is because you are scumming it up hardcore. Really? Care to explain why? Like I don't give a flying fuck about any of my reads on damd, HF or whatever. They claimed blue and it's un-cced, which means they live through today and tomorrow (possibly excepting damd). People wanting to lynch damd are not thinking correctly. Normally you have to lynch to figure out who the real claim is, agreed. But the mod is kindly doing that for us, so we lynch someone else and: 1. not risk lynching possible cop, 2. possibly win game outright, 3. get more information regardless. Is my logic fucking wrong here??? | ||
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On October 27 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote: Even if this list is genuine, how in the FUCK do you justify killing JaT ('scary scumplay' but actively trying to help town constantly) over marv or GB? Seriously put some thought into your posts or they look retarded. I had a pretty decent townread on Elvis! d1 and it's transferring to today. Also had GB as pretty town yesterday. Prefer to kill JaT because he's basically my weakest town out of all of those. | ||
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Vigi shoots before framer. | ||
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Yeah, all right. That's possible. | ||
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On October 27 2014 12:19 justanothertownie wrote: I would be highly surprised if a vigshot would prevent the frame. Really doubt it. On October 17 2014 02:16 geript wrote: Order of operations for actions: 6. Mafia KP/Vigilante/Poisoner (e.g. Ray Lewis, Mafia factional kp, TMz [poison]) 7. Framer/GF type abilities (e.g. Josh Brent, Adrian Peterson) Pretty sure it does. | ||
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On October 27 2014 12:20 liancourt wrote: no apparently actions go through or it's what they want to believe because i'm scummy as hell to them, wishful thinking lol Your WIFOM is really annoying. Who's scum here? | ||
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On October 27 2014 12:28 liancourt wrote: now we can actually have a decent debate Who's the last scum? | ||
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All right, thanks. ##Vote: liancourt | ||
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On October 27 2014 12:55 Holyflare wrote: Wow why on earth wouldn't we kill 100% mafia today by killing damdred when all they have left is pr's. Silly Superbia/other silly ppl We'll discuss it postgame. What I talked about is pretty much always the correct play, regardless of how godly you think your read is. | ||
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On October 27 2014 13:06 Holyflare wrote: Say damd is rber which is most super likely with that track, that means our rber has to block him to prevent him sending kp but that means the other mafia can 100% kill our medic and tomorrow damd would die and we are in the same position. A day behind. If damd is cop which is super highly unlikely because robik wouldn't get that mad post modkill as mafia then we still just trade a cop for mafia and save a day of a dead towny instead of the far far greater risk of having 2 alive. There's also the fact thay they could have been mafia together making a play. I can see your point but this still hinges from the fact that damd is indeed mafia. If not we lynch our cop, mafia PR probably still gets a play (because I doubt a mafia PR would be that suicidal) and they kill medic during the night. Which means we essentially lose our 2 big PRs in 1 day. I can see why it's not 100% the right play to let damd live, especially if you have a strong scum read on him. Forgot that him being red actually implies him being a mafia PR. I'm off for now. | ||
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On October 27 2014 13:24 Holyflare wrote: Superbia why are you voting someone that isn't even in your lynch list and why does he not even feature in it?? Forgot he could be godfather. | ||
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On October 28 2014 04:11 justanothertownie wrote: And that's exactly why it is the correct play to lynch damdred that day. Not for me. :D | ||
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On October 28 2014 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote: BE TOWN WITH ME NEXT GAME WE WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE Hopefully! :D | ||
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