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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 24 2014 21:49 GMT
#1156
Ok I'm here. Wasn't expecting to play d1. Might keep vote on FF because I'm ignorant as fuck atm and I want to sleep soon.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 24 2014 22:08 GMT
#1163
Vote stays. Going to sleep.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 21:32 GMT
#1612
Thanks for d1 carry friends. Currently skimming through d1 posts. If you have any questions I may or may not answer them.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 22:20 GMT
#1636
Who is this stranger named thrawn?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 22:38 GMT
#1639
Seriously, who's the player named Thrawn? What's the username.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 22:43 GMT
#1641
On October 26 2014 07:41 DrParnassus wrote:
that's me, if you're looking for old games look up thrawn2112


Too lazy to ever read other games (especially if I did not participate), but thanks for the answer.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 22:48 GMT
#1645
On October 26 2014 07:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Ya hey der Superbia.

Wazzapp


Reading thread, watching some videos, listening to some music. On what day do you stop talking like the riddler?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 22:59 GMT
#1651
On October 26 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
I read marv town because elvis played practically the same this game as last game. Little to no activity but huge posts when he is here.

Replacement marv on his own? Ok I'd put him leanscum/null but elvis makes that slot lean town

Parnassus i should probably have put null but i had the categories setup before i put the names down but i haven't read any of his previous games. I should do another pop of his filter.

Phones are lame still, even horizontal phones

I don't get it. Elvis made 1 (!) big post and that is enough for you to metaread him as town without ever seeing his scumplay? Wut? Do you have any opinion on the content of the post?


I've read the post and it felt like a really standard coached newbie town post. Like step by step how to push on who you think is possibly scum (i.e. explain to town how you feel about that person -> detailed explanation on why you think this is scummy). Especially the detailed explanation on why he thinks that is mafia behaviour stood out to me here. I didn't really care much about the content (as it is 2000 pages ago), but I feel like it's newbie town. Enough for him to start off leaning town for me (it'd be a d1 pass, but too late).
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 23:22 GMT
#1663
On October 26 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote:
I am a bit disappointed that marv isn't posting today. If I die tonight you need to force him to be active day2. Don't just give him a pass.


Is he usually inactive d2?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 23:26 GMT
#1668
On October 26 2014 08:24 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 26 2014 08:22 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote:
I am a bit disappointed that marv isn't posting today. If I die tonight you need to force him to be active day2. Don't just give him a pass.


Is he usually inactive d2?

It's not about day2. If he is town he will be active on his own and probably pretty obvious. If he is scum - who knows. But make sure that you don't let him live if he isn't posting a good amount and makes sense.


Couldn't you say the exact same thing about me? Why are you scared that he won't get pressured?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 23:32 GMT
#1675
On October 26 2014 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 26 2014 08:26 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:22 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote:
I am a bit disappointed that marv isn't posting today. If I die tonight you need to force him to be active day2. Don't just give him a pass.


Is he usually inactive d2?

It's not about day2. If he is town he will be active on his own and probably pretty obvious. If he is scum - who knows. But make sure that you don't let him live if he isn't posting a good amount and makes sense.


Couldn't you say the exact same thing about me? Why are you scared that he won't get pressured?

I think regarding the activity you can say that about you too. But you are here, correct? Marv is not. I am scared because marv can easily come up with some posts that look decent and there are always people that will give him a pass for it.


Fair enough.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 25 2014 23:40 GMT
#1676
On October 26 2014 06:34 kushm4sta wrote:
@superbia, please give thoughts on rayne and alakaslam.


Some fucking mindmeld shit going on here. I actually would prefer to lynch both at some point in time. Slam just posts confusing (albeit funny) shit. Rayn posts bad one-liners and WIFOM shit. Slam gets townread by some people for essentially no reason. Rayn gets townread because of his "bad reads". Gut says rayn feels somewhat more scummy than slam, but that's probably because slam is amusing. They are mainly just question marks to me, and the game would be better without them.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:23 GMT
#1687
Some other thoughts:

Both newfriends (FF/Elvis, now Marv) are probably town. Explained Elvis already. FF is being sarcastic and funny. He isn't really doing anything but he also doesn't seem scared of being lynched. Last game I played he was scum and became serious as soon as people (I) were (was) pushing on him.

Damdred is leaning scum for me atm. Only noticed this post:
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On October 23 2014 23:30 Damdred wrote:
I always joke about rolling onto a scum team with bats and with kush in this game it becomes even better. I think bats still gets messages from kush about passes.

And to be honest, rolling scum is tiring you have to fake everything can't post to much or give things away. Hard to fake reads etc, so yea I really wanted to play my last game and couldn't so i'm happy i finally get to play a game instead of sitting on the sidelines if that makes sense.

@Storr, I was asked what my scum leans were I said who and why. They were both legitimate reasons and the reasons I lean'd you as scum haven't changed at all your tone still sounds fake, feels like you are just going through the motions. And I actually you know found the game where you talked about your tunneling and if it was a town tell or not.

@HF could you tell me what you th ink of robiks post?

in which it becomes clear he's definitely not scum guys! None of his other posts made it into my (death) note book, which is a bad sign.

Liancourt is also leaning scum for me at the moment. I liked his initial meta-read on storr (it was wrong, but it seemed townie). He then gets townread because he’s happy and carefree and proceeds to do fuck all the rest of the game.
Shit like this also feels scummy to me:
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On October 25 2014 04:07 liancourt wrote:
Thrawn and slam have said rayns town i have no idea where they are getting this from

Good question, why is rayn being townread by thrawn (drparnassus) and slam? Pressure is being put on Parnassus (lian should be happy) and then he’s like:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2014 06:07 liancourt wrote:
Is superbia actually playing this game?

“Where’s this one afker guys???” Why are you diverting attention when someone is being pressured who you were questioning? Feels scummy and possibly aligns lian with Parnassus.

GlowingBear is leaning town for me. Had some decentish posts. Specifically liked his case on lian.

Kushm4sta is null for me atm. I only recall his short overview (list) post of which the shortness felt townie to me (i.e. mafia would’ve probably put in more effort), but I can’t really recall what was in it.

Holyflare is mafia for me at the moment. I liked his initial reaction to parnassus’ opening post, that’s it. Two posts stood out to me:
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On October 23 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
Glad we are doing things.... Either way, I've seen 2 people (robik and (storr??)) say that gb is town when he's posted literally nothing, not to mention that robik had called me and gb town but then retroactively wanted to take that back based on another post of mine which meant he hadn't actually read anything other than page 1 of the thread

Thrawn has some weird double association read which i don't like at all and is quite frankly weird to begin with because he is town reading one of the most unreadable players (as is rayn)


Feels like a lot of information but is actually a complete air post. Saying literally nothing here, and made me suspicious. Then comes this (le) gem:
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On October 24 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
let's all back away from fecal for a bit and I want him to post concisely his surmised points on why someone (lian?) is mafia rather than just going back and forth about one thing or another, that way all his thoughts are in one place and we can connect them to what he's been saying through the thread

Absolutely no need to defend FF here. The pressure was mediocre at best at this point in time. Seems like mafia trying to get free townie points here. Town would’ve just asked FF for his points on lian without taking away the pressure. Yeah, he pushed (and voted) on bats early on, but I don’t recall him contributing much to the push during the EoD. Also I would’ve probably bussed badsnacks if I was his partner too.

IamRobik is leaning town to me. Most of his posts feel townie (though different from last game I played with him).

Justanothertownie is slightly leaning town to me. Had a tryhard and pushy opening, followed by some straightforward neutral townposts.

DrParnassus is leaning scum to me. I loved his first post, and don’t recall any of his other posts. Strong opening followed by weak play is probably scum. Also this recent post really ticked me off:
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On October 26 2014 07:24 DrParnassus wrote:
Fecalfeast if you are town then it should be so obvious to you that I'm town. If I was mafia I could have buried you yesterday because that's where the thread sentiment (mainly talking about JAT who was doing a lot of the talking) was going once people decided they might not want to lynch me.

This feels like mafia trying to salvage losing a team-mate d1 (i.e. trying to get something positive out of the lynch, which the lynch is already very positive for town is scummy).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:33 GMT
#1689
On October 26 2014 09:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Super are you completely caught up?


Ya pretty much.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:35 GMT
#1691
On October 26 2014 09:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Do you seriously expect me to believe that a townie that just replaced in and read the game after a fucking scumlynch posts his thoughts and they are completely devoid of any analysis that has anything to do with the lynch?


Nice loaded question.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:37 GMT
#1693
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:46 GMT
#1697
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:53 GMT
#1701
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:55 GMT
#1703
Like you're expecting me to draw lines in the sand in a game I haven't even played in yet based on a lynch I haven't participated in. I read the thread, I didn't get anything I feel is alignment indicative from the people pushing on batsnacks or whatever.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 00:57 GMT
#1704
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.
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