I would assume Wave is a high priority target for mafia if he's not scum, so no reason to lynch him Day 1, his alignment is basically revealed Day 2 if he's still alive.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 01:32 GMT

#204

Kk. Like a toplaner who can't possibly be that brave, must have a jungler. But he's just bad.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 01:38 GMT

#205

BTW, I see in some other mafia threads how they seem to get to a point where a lot of people are "confirmed Town", how do we do that?

The only concrete information I can see is if a cop announces himself and someone he's confirmed innocent, and then the cop is killed, confirming the Townie. What am I missing?

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 01:48 GMT

#212

That's what I'm asking, are there any kind of useful deductions we can make at this point?

p.s. Ghandi, decide if you want Blue or White as your champion. League will decide my vote! Same goes for Wave, first post gets first pick!

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:01 GMT

#219

So ketchup's strat is clearly to accuse everyone else of making useless posts while making no useful posts.

I assume there's a bunch of euros we won't hear from for awhile, who is there other than frenchie?

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:08 GMT

#222

Helps other people feel useful, I already looked up the game numbers.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:12 GMT

#226

Oh wtf how did I miss you LT. Well database only says 3 games but w/e. Seems respectable to out yourself, that's a point in Tolkien's favour for me.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:29 GMT

#232

H isn't even close to R, what kind of typo is that.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:44 GMT

#240

You said that you didn't 'expect that from me,' meaning that you must have some expectations as to how I play, yet I don't see how you could have any expectations since you don't know how I play.

I mean, part of the reason I mentioned games played is we can actually look at them. Apparently you guys are particularly suspicious of me when I tryhard and get information, but we can just look at past game threads and see how Wave posts when he's mafia vs town.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 02:50 GMT

#242

Well I was actually advocated meta-meta reads earlier. But that's less valuable (or not at all) if everyone else is disregarding meta-information, as you seem to be.

Or at least, a bunch seem suspicious that I would post meta-information at all, and there's too many of you saying that for you to all be scum.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 03:05 GMT

#246

On October 11 2014 11:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:

Show nested quote +

But you're not getting useful information, you're just doing things that are seemingly helpful. Who are your scum reads?

So...

Wave isn't very suspicious to me, as the veteran player he made big early post to set some atmosphere, I wouldn't infer anything from that. Undecided.

Ghandi has only posted one-liner posts, accusing Wave most of the time. My current suspect.

You (soniv) actually seem to making the most direct posts/questions. No evasiness or wishy-washiness. Most likely Townie.

ketchup's pretty generic. I would be suspicious of him for being suspicious of me but there's a bunch of you who seem to hate meta-information, so I think he's actually Town.

Playing League, more deductions later.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 03:48 GMT

#257

On October 11 2014 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alzadar why does Jeff's posting make him scum?

He's trying extra hard to appear like a shitposter.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 15:39 GMT

#296

On October 11 2014 21:52 Cixah wrote:
Question for Alzadar: How Town is Wave for you?

Wave is 70% Town. At this point he's really driving the discussion, I don't think he would such a central role if he was scum.

I'd like to mention that MoonBear and ComaDose have made only the same kind of "observation with no conclusion" style posts that you all seem suspicious of me for.

Which leads me to say - I feel like there must be some scum among those who are suspicious of me: after Wave and Soniv declared their suspicion I became an easy target for people to say "oh I'm suspicious of Alz" without actually contributing anything new.

ketchup in particular has focused entirely on Wave and myself (both of us already being under suspicion when he did), and has basically only repeated arguments other people had already said.

Alzadar

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October 11 2014 16:06 GMT

#300

I think there's a decent chance on ketchup, yes. He declared his suspicion for me after Wave, when all I'd posted were the meta-observations.

More suspicious is Cixah, who showed up to the Alzaparty after you three, repeated what you'd already said and then voted. Then there's this kind of stupid post padding:

On October 11 2014 11:14 Cixah wrote:
Wave: 55% Scum, 45% Town.

Ketchup: Reads town to me right now. Only slightly though, 51% T 49% S.

55-45? 51-49? These aren't reads...