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On October 12 2014 04:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:37 Requizen wrote:On October 12 2014 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:So here's a question for you MB. You dropped a wall of text all focused on me, and then right at the end of it, dropped everything again and said this: So reverse we shall away from the focus of "he said, she said" details and to engagement. Lord Tolkein, AsmodeusXI and Requizen have the absolute worst engagement out of everyone here. Out of them Lord Tolkein has played 3 games and the other have never played before.**** I honestly think we should be talking about them. Asmo has said he will post again later but Tolkein and Req's posts have just been weird. No conclusions. No analysis. DICK ALL. You scum? what is there to analyze? The only "analysis" I've seen from anyone is they "have a feeling" based on nothing. That's not a conclusion that's a joke. This is mafia. That's the point.
That's kinda dumb.
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The Cixah bandwagon is too real. Especially when coming from Alzadar and GhandiEagle. Wave is looking more and more townie just because people want to parrot previous arguments against him for badly thought out logic.
Moonbear's post was fairly terror. I hoped he would provide more. So moonbear, who are your top scum now that you know this game isn't rigged? There's no way only one person is scum to you right now right?
Requizen, I'll keep asking until you answer. Who are scum and who are town for you?
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Stop talking about reversing.
If you are going simply by how engaged people are in the game I should tell you two things.
First of all, I don't think I have ever seen a game in all of my time on mafia where the person with the largest filter was scum. It's simply impossible to keep up that level of discussion without being afraid of slipping or actually doing so.
Second, the above probably doesn't apply to me, especially in this game, at least from other people's POVs.
On October 12 2014 04:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:So here's a question for you MB. You dropped a wall of text all focused on me, and then right at the end of it, dropped everything again and said this: So reverse we shall away from the focus of "he said, she said" details and to engagement. Lord Tolkein, AsmodeusXI and Requizen have the absolute worst engagement out of everyone here. Out of them Lord Tolkein has played 3 games and the other have never played before.**** I honestly think we should be talking about them. Asmo has said he will post again later but Tolkein and Req's posts have just been weird. No conclusions. No analysis. DICK ALL. You scum? what is there to analyze? The only "analysis" I've seen from anyone is they "have a feeling" based on nothing. That's not a conclusion that's a joke.
Req you have to start somewhere. Mafia games would never go anywhere at all if people didn't start posting and make conjecture. You'd actually be surprised how many times 'feelings' can be correct because they're often based on the 'tone' of people's posts. You want to know how you can start properly contributing? Stop shitting on everything everyone is doing.
My point against MB is based on the fact that he goes into in-depth analysis (even though it's wrong) about me, then shifts the entire focus of his post in the last paragraph, talks about where he feels the REAL focus should be, and yet in that very same post does exactly what he feels we should be doing by focusing on me and not offering any insight into why he feels the three of you are specifically suspicious. Believe me, there is plenty of analysis that could be dne.
My reason to vote Asmo, for example---I've lynched scum for far less.
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Req I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to spend time arguing with you over how the game should be played and what you should or shouldn't be doing.
You can either contribute in a positive fashion and help the town win (assuming you're town) or you can swing by the neck until you are dead (or possibly be shot..?). Your current demeanor/attitude suggests you'd rather have the latter.
Entirely your choice.
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Bandwagon? I was the first to suspect Cixah, decided to actually vote cause Wave seems antsy to have us vote, and I trust him as our fearless Townie leader.
Strategic talk: if you hold the oldest vote on someone (as Ghandhi did), you shouldn't change it arbitrarily, you're giving up tiebreak power.
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On October 12 2014 04:42 ketchup wrote:
The Cixah bandwagon is too real. Especially when coming from Alzadar and GhandiEagle. Wave is looking more and more townie just because people want to parrot previous arguments against him for badly thought out logic.
Moonbear's post was fairly terror. I hoped he would provide more. So moonbear, who are your top scum now that you know this game isn't rigged? There's no way only one person is scum to you right now right?
Requizen, I'll keep asking until you answer. Who are scum and who are town for you?
Elaborate on this. Does this mean you think Cixah is likely town?
And while I won't disagree with your conclusion on me, do you think scum would want to avoid being caught pushing/parroting badly thought out logic?
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On October 12 2014 04:46 Alzadar wrote:
Bandwagon? I was the first to suspect Cixah, decided to actually vote cause Wave seems antsy to have us vote, and I trust him as our fearless Townie leader.
Strategic talk: if you hold the oldest vote on someone (as Ghandhi did), you shouldn't change it arbitrarily, you're giving up tiebreak power.
That is actually true. My mistake!
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On October 12 2014 04:46 Alzadar wrote:
Bandwagon? I was the first to suspect Cixah, decided to actually vote cause Wave seems antsy to have us vote, and I trust him as our fearless Townie leader.
Strategic talk: if you hold the oldest vote on someone (as Ghandhi did), you shouldn't change it arbitrarily, you're giving up tiebreak power.
Strategically speaking, he knows very well there is no way in hell I get lynched today so it doesn't matter.
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On October 12 2014 04:34 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol. MB see my post directed at Req above.
Why the fuck does Alzadar's 'look how many games so and so have played' shit list keep popping up?
I honestly can't believe anyone at all thought it had any use whatsoever. It was also wrong. Clearly had a 67% margin of error at least. Numbers taken straight from the database in this subforum, I just looked them up. They may be inaccurate, but the point wasn't fine precision number of games. Still nothing from Cixah to shake my scum feeling. He's just repeating things Wave said, trying to look constructive while adding nothing. So tentatively... ##Vote: Cixah
40 minute drive home op.
I'm role claiming. Innocent Child
While this doesn't have really any effect unless you buy into it and let me live until morning That's your call.
I find it scummy from quite a few people saying "50% isn't a read" or is wishy washy when you do the EXACT same thing when I ask you that question.
My number one read is still Azladar. While wave did mention it first, my reasoning is the same, you have done nothing in this game that proves that you are NOT Scum. Mordek is definitely my number 2, played the game from the side then coming in with the weak reasoning of wishy washy ness
+ Show Spoiler [segment from Mordek's post] +He read you as 55% scum. To me this is weird as I think you'd either be entirely convinced your town and setting the right environment or entirely convinced you're making some huge epic mafia play and pulling the wool over all our eyes. Seems to tentative. I understand doubts but feels like that and the 51/49 split is also just trying not to stick your neck out. I'm not sure if this is a good read but I will confidently assert it and meet any rebuttals with an open mind.
How does 1 early game post like a 50/50 read because the player hasn't posted enough or is giving mixed signals push me enough into Scum for you to Vote? That's my question to you.
Number 3 is Ghandi due to how quickly he jumped at the vote and rash "getting the game moving" voting.
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Wave you don't "swing by the neck until you're dead".
Hanging someone kills them instantly because it breaks their neck. If you're swinging by the neck you're already dead.
Wave doesn't know how to kill properly, therefore must be actually townie. Confirmed.
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On October 12 2014 04:42 ketchup wrote:
The Cixah bandwagon is too real. Especially when coming from Alzadar and GhandiEagle. Wave is looking more and more townie just because people want to parrot previous arguments against him for badly thought out logic.
Moonbear's post was fairly terror. I hoped he would provide more. So moonbear, who are your top scum now that you know this game isn't rigged? There's no way only one person is scum to you right now right?
Requizen, I'll keep asking until you answer. Who are scum and who are town for you?
I have no idea. Everyone's posting sounds like everyone else. All everyone is saying is "I'm town you're scum" for flimsy reasons at best so my instinct is who knows?
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Reaaallllyyyy want to hear from joey joe joe carlson the 4th now that activity has picked up.
As for the rest of you, take a good look at Asmo's few posts. Especially those that are voting Req for making excuses/martyring.
Why are we not lynching [red]Asmo[red] right now?
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Wave wants us to lynch red_
how rude.
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hes not in the game wave.
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Jeff you're hereby ignored until you post something of substance.
Except for voting posts that is, and while you're not my #1 priority at this point, keep testing me.
6ah, I'm tempted to /facepalm at that claim because it really doesn't do us a whole lot of good at this point, and makes rolesniping a little easier for scum. I mean unless you really thought you were getting lynched today (not even 24h in..?)
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Vote Count
Cixah (3): mordek, Alzadar, GhandiEAGLE
WaveofShadow (1): GhandiEAGLE, Requizen
Alzadar (1): Cixah
AsmodeusXI (1): WaveofShadow
Requizen (1): ketchup
GhandiEAGLE (0): WaveofShadow
Not voting (7): The rest
Currently, Waveofshadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in
Remember that voting is mandatory.
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Well now we know who's dying at night lel
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On October 12 2014 04:48 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:34 Alzadar wrote:On October 12 2014 04:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol. MB see my post directed at Req above.
Why the fuck does Alzadar's 'look how many games so and so have played' shit list keep popping up?
I honestly can't believe anyone at all thought it had any use whatsoever. It was also wrong. Clearly had a 67% margin of error at least. Numbers taken straight from the database in this subforum, I just looked them up. They may be inaccurate, but the point wasn't fine precision number of games. Still nothing from Cixah to shake my scum feeling. He's just repeating things Wave said, trying to look constructive while adding nothing. So tentatively... ##Vote: Cixah 40 minute drive home op. I'm role claiming. Innocent Child While this doesn't have really any effect unless you buy into it and let me live until morning That's your call.
Can we talk about this? Given that he's the current lynch candidate, it's either a gambit as Mafia Vigilante/Poisoner to get off his kill or he's telling the truth.
I assume, Cixah, that you'll have this confirmed for day 2?
I think we can be sure there aren't TWO innocent children, so I'm willing to believe Cixah on this unless someone else comes forward as Innoncent Child. Of course, there could be no Child at all and we'd be letting Cixah bluff his way into blowing one of our brains out.
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On October 12 2014 04:48 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:34 Alzadar wrote:On October 12 2014 04:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol. MB see my post directed at Req above.
Why the fuck does Alzadar's 'look how many games so and so have played' shit list keep popping up?
I honestly can't believe anyone at all thought it had any use whatsoever. It was also wrong. Clearly had a 67% margin of error at least. Numbers taken straight from the database in this subforum, I just looked them up. They may be inaccurate, but the point wasn't fine precision number of games. Still nothing from Cixah to shake my scum feeling. He's just repeating things Wave said, trying to look constructive while adding nothing. So tentatively... ##Vote: Cixah 40 minute drive home op. I'm role claiming. Innocent Child While this doesn't have really any effect unless you buy into it and let me live until morning That's your call. I find it scummy from quite a few people saying "50% isn't a read" or is wishy washy when you do the EXACT same thing when I ask you that question. My number one read is still Azladar. While wave did mention it first, my reasoning is the same, you have done nothing in this game that proves that you are NOT Scum. Mordek is definitely my number 2, played the game from the side then coming in with the weak reasoning of wishy washy ness + Show Spoiler [segment from Mordek's post] +He read you as 55% scum. To me this is weird as I think you'd either be entirely convinced your town and setting the right environment or entirely convinced you're making some huge epic mafia play and pulling the wool over all our eyes. Seems to tentative. I understand doubts but feels like that and the 51/49 split is also just trying not to stick your neck out. I'm not sure if this is a good read but I will confidently assert it and meet any rebuttals with an open mind. How does 1 early game post like a 50/50 read because the player hasn't posted enough or is giving mixed signals push me enough into Scum for you to Vote? That's my question to you. Number 3 is Ghandi due to how quickly he jumped at the vote and rash "getting the game moving" voting.
First, I encouraged a rebuttal and said I'd keep an open mind. I'm not going to act like my "feeling" is ironclad. I'm being open about my read and I want your reaction. Your post just seemed fluffy while not actually asserting yourself one way or another. I don't see why me picking that up on you is in anyway scummy. I'm trying to gather information to find out who is scum. As far as I've read, making posts that don't further anything is scummy. An early 50/50 says squat.
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On October 12 2014 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Jeff you're hereby ignored until you post something of substance.
Except for voting posts that is, and while you're not my #1 priority at this point, keep testing me.
6ah, I'm tempted to /facepalm at that claim because it really doesn't do us a whole lot of good at this point, and makes rolesniping a little easier for scum. I mean unless you really thought you were getting lynched today (not even 24h in..?)
It makes it easier for Scum how? I'm actually confused by that from a game play perspective, not from a "WHY DO YOU WANT ME DEAD" perspective.
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