[I] TLLOLOTGDTM - Page 100

Sorry getting kinda giddy from the studying

- you're very back-and-forth and inconsistent. You hint people as to what they should do but claim you don't want to lead anyone. You played around with Soniv about how you were the key to his vote, and you also spoke several times of your ability to sway people and influence votes; but you repeated that you dislike to be in a leading position and are never sure of yourself. It's like you say you want us to trust you but you keep repeating that you're unreliable, which is a bit confusing, you'll admit.
- plus, as a veteran I'd expect you to be the most confident of us all at this point, actually. ._.
- but at least at this point I think I'm pretty certain there's no way Ghandi and you are scum at the same time, or Req and you.
(fake edit: I found such a post while reading owb's filter, you actually like to suggest stuff but not push actually for it, like the switch to mordek that made owb move to him too.)
(fake edit²: can you explain exactly what you call shenanies? That post confused me. Ae shenanies last second pushes/vote switches because they screw with scum plans and don't leave them with enough time to lead town on a red herring?)
I swear, though, if you end up being scum I'll come to your house and slap you around the head whenever you whine again in OT about how you're bad at Mafia. x)

- at one point, it's 6-5 in favor of Ghandi being lynched. Ghandi points at mordek but it doesn't work out. However, owb switches (shortly) to mordek too before going back to Ghandi (he actually parroted Wave once again rather than Ghandi). At about the same time, I voted for Soniv, putting it at 6-6. Upon reverifying, Ghandi was dead anyway...
- ... because owb held the oldest vote. As he switched, he transfered it to Asmodeus. Which meant "putting pressure to make mordek post" at that point saved Ghandi, and alternatively "pushed" Soniv.
- Soniv had to reveal himself, meaning scum learnt about his role. Not as good as getting him lynched, but still pretty good. Plus, there were discussions of switching to ComaDose (+ Show Spoiler +), who scum knew wasn't one of them. Parity Cop identity + assured mislynch? Yes pls. No wonder owb didn't bother staying longer and went away (he may have had IRL stuff to do, however keep in mind these posts, either he lied, or he said the truth and was confident he'd have time to switch to ComaDose if scum needed his vote to seal the deal).

- Req: nothing.
- Asmodeus: he pushed Soniv very hard, and until the claim he had the 2nd oldest vote, meaning if scum wanted Soniv all owb had to do was switch, Asmo being scum would have secured them the tie because the oldest vote was then "reliable" for them. It would also have allowed Asmodeus to distance himself from Ghandi somewhat. On top of everything we already have.
- mordek: not much. It was only a small nudge so he wasn't ever in danger, and owb switched back super fast so there was never much going on. He jumped super fast on ComaDose the second time but that doesn't mean much. Him being scum wouldn't really improve the plan either, at best it'd allow owb to combine the tie transfer with distancing.
- Ghandi: on paper "the play" keeps Ghandi alive while granting massive distancing from most people involved (Wave and Asmodeus mostly; Req was on Wave and mordek wasn't very assertive anyway). On the other hand without the whole parity cop claim thing Ghandi was like 80% the Day 3 lynch, so that was sacrificing someone just to get Soniv, which sounds like an awful scum play—while setting up Ghandi as obvious lynch at the same time as killing Soniv would have been very good from the way I see it. However, how ballsy/masterminded/risky would it have been to set that up while expecting to keep Ghandi alive? Oo
- Wave: immediatly moved toward mordek after Ghandi started it, lending credibility to the "pressure train" (and giving owb an excuse since parroting the same Ghandi he had his vote against wasn't believable), then later when Soniv claimed he was the first to suggest ComaDose, although he insisted he didn't want to push (trying to hide himself?). While Soniv was easy to kill (eg. pre-claim) he was very confident in his "key" status, by contrast. Also lets him distance himself from owb, but that's because it was parroting and not following each other, which doesn't mean much. Plus if Wave is scum I don't think he needs distancing from anyone at this point.

Thing is, technically Req's posting doesn't do much direct harm to town. He's involved, and he shows he reads most posts, takes the time to formulate thought-out arguments, and can make compelling cases (barring the premise thing I talked about). All stuff that I'd easily attribute to an eager but inexperienced player, and in line with my "pre-opinion" of him in a puzzle/guessing game.
Whenever I look for scum I was mostly trying to find lies, people pushing too hard or for unclear reasons (or even no reason at all), wishy-washy indecisiveness and jumping around too much. Part of why I didn't check lurkers much (haven't read mordek's or Alzadar's filters yet (I'll get to it), and didn't Coma/owb/Asmo at all before recently), I'd rather directly call them out and wait for a contribution to evaluate (what happened with Asmo, which was arguably a mistake with how things turned out).

Req doesn't present any of those things.
He doesn't make slips or mistakes, or presents weird stances, or tries to start trains. In short he doesn't leave ground for errors or getting caught out if he's scum.
On the other hand, how does his behaviour help scum's agenda? Shouldn't they be sowing dissension (either defending against some pushes or throwing oil in the fire when a bandwagon starts), push against people (especially lurkers who made for easy mislynches I assume) or in general try not to make themselves noticed?
At the start I could get that, you were a polarising figure, and the way you talked to people or played such a big part in our direction could make a case for you being suspicious (whereas now I accept that as your posting (didn't Soniv call you a blood hound or something?) but I'm wary or what benefits you can get out of the reactions you incite). If you were town and him scum that could have been a push to lynch the town's leader and disrupt our activity.
But the wagon never took off, and pretty much since the end of Night 1 Requizen's been the only one at odds with you (even people you accused like Soniv treated you as townie). What does Scum!Req gain from that? Since you'd never get lynched like that, if he focuses on you he pretty much removes himself from the game.