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On October 11 2014 09:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 09:24 Alaric wrote:
I thought we agreed on lynching Wave?
Actually that might be a decent idea. A learning experience of sorts: either he doesn't get lynched, and I'll know what to emulate if I want to live if I ever get accused, or he gets lynched, and we know what not to say if he flips scum, or how not to defend oneself if he flips town.
I'd have said "how to recognise town" but noob scum could copy his defense too in that case, which would be misleading.
More seriously, though, how do these games actually start, apart from meta stuff? There's usually hints like noise or facial expression to pick up in IRL variants. And seeing how well the whole "mass claim" strat worked out in the LoL Mafia Wave hosted and made us host, I wouldn't want to start by imitating that.
Do we just accuse somebody at random and try to read how he defends himself/people talk about him? People have different styles and preferences. Early D1 is awkward to start, so it's always just general bullshit. Some people like to participate, others like to let it settle and join in on real discussion afterwards. The whole time you should be trying to look for anything that might be shady (and it's a learning experience to figure out what that actually means), and see what you can do to further your assumptions, speculations, knowledge, etc.
Pretty sure Alaric is just playing you. He talked about how much he plays mafia in real life, and he probably knows how day 1 works fairly well. I vote for him to by lynch target #1! Even real life games have fairly random accusations, but I do agree it might be easier with body language tells for people who seem overly nervous
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On October 11 2014 09:46 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 09:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 11 2014 09:24 Alaric wrote:
I thought we agreed on lynching Wave?
Actually that might be a decent idea. A learning experience of sorts: either he doesn't get lynched, and I'll know what to emulate if I want to live if I ever get accused, or he gets lynched, and we know what not to say if he flips scum, or how not to defend oneself if he flips town.
I'd have said "how to recognise town" but noob scum could copy his defense too in that case, which would be misleading.
More seriously, though, how do these games actually start, apart from meta stuff? There's usually hints like noise or facial expression to pick up in IRL variants. And seeing how well the whole "mass claim" strat worked out in the LoL Mafia Wave hosted and made us host, I wouldn't want to start by imitating that.
Do we just accuse somebody at random and try to read how he defends himself/people talk about him? People have different styles and preferences. Early D1 is awkward to start, so it's always just general bullshit. Some people like to participate, others like to let it settle and join in on real discussion afterwards. The whole time you should be trying to look for anything that might be shady (and it's a learning experience to figure out what that actually means), and see what you can do to further your assumptions, speculations, knowledge, etc. Pretty sure Alaric is just playing you. He talked about how much he plays mafia in real life, and he probably knows how day 1 works fairly well. I vote for him to by lynch target #1! Even real life games have fairly random accusations, but I do agree it might be easier with body language tells for people who seem overly nervous
Well, real life vs forum is really a hugely different vibe. In RL mafia, you don't have time to think about what you're gonna say, body language as you said, etc. Granted, I'm not sure how much of it translates to forum,
And you should know that I never listen to Alaric by now.
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
THE GAME HAS BEGUN.
I saw that my inbox had a message in it. I clicked on it; lo and behold I am Vanilla Town.
What does this mean, and why is it important?
It means I can go fucking crazy and solve the shit out of this game without having to worry about fucking up in any way.
It means scummerz will PH34R ME.
It means I should be protected tonight.
It means that if you listen to me, and follow my lead, we will crush the scum under our bootheels and take this game.
As town leader I first thought of many ways to begin the crushing.
Would I begin the game like our dear friend BlazingHand from the government, and spout off nonsense about an RNG lynch that is 100% destined to fail and glean no useful information?
Would I discuss strategy based on the setup and what people are likely to do and/or not do?
Would I joke around and keep the atmosphere trolly and light all the while sitting back to see how others respond?
NO.
##Vote: GhandiEAGLE
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you our first scummer. Vote along with me for glory and for victory.
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Are there a set amount of each role?
Also fak u wavvy boy
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sic 'em wave
I'm curious who's around tonight
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On October 11 2014 10:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
sic 'em wave
I'm curious who's around tonight
What, you're going to let me do all the work?
I doubt we'll be lynching scum if I'm the only one voting...care to join me, frand?
Oh and Jeffy's recent question reminds me of a setup detail I feel like I should mention even though it's completely unrelated to anything.
Actually now that I think about it I think I was going to include it in my intro post as a reason for people to protect the hell out of me tonight but oh well.
+ Show Spoiler +
In almost every 14-player game I have been a part of on this site, especially those with the possibility of 3P, there were 2 non-town KP on the first night. Since there is no SK this likely means scum will have a vig, 2KP/night (unlikely but possible), or there will be some sort of poisoner. I have been scum in such scenarios and I have actively misled the town before by only allowing them to consider the setup options that were wrong. Just something to consider when N1 happens.
Of course it is also entirely possible I am completely wrong about the above :D
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Lynch Wavvy boy and join me in the glorious sunset
##Lynch: WaveofShadow
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You must not read my posts ever if you expect me not to tryhard.
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I've really only played 13 games? wow
On October 11 2014 10:08 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
sic 'em wave
I'm curious who's around tonight What, you're going to let me do all the work? I doubt we'll be lynching scum if I'm the only one voting...care to join me, frand?
Oh, no no no, of course I wouldn't let you do all the work. But I'm sorry to disappoint, I tend to be a vote prude in the early days. It doesn't mean a whole lot right now, and unless I really want to pressure someone in particular (and think my vote will actually do that), I keep my vote in my pocket for a bit.
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On October 11 2014 10:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Haha I smell tryhards.
All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
Quite the scummy attitude you've got. Something you want to tell us?
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On October 11 2014 10:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:I've really only played 13 games? wow Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:08 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 11 2014 10:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
sic 'em wave
I'm curious who's around tonight What, you're going to let me do all the work? I doubt we'll be lynching scum if I'm the only one voting...care to join me, frand? Oh, no no no, of course I wouldn't let you do all the work. But I'm sorry to disappoint, I tend to be a vote prude in the early days. It doesn't mean a whole lot right now, and unless I really want to pressure someone in particular (and think my vote will actually do that), I keep my vote in my pocket for a bit.
Well I'm a vote (and posting) whore.
But then again you probably knew that, stud.
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On October 11 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Quite the scummy attitude you've got. Something you want to tell us?
Time to pony up to your mistakes, Wavvy boy.
Where were you on the day of today?
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work got crazy and then I took a bus all the way to parents and I'll be spending much weekend time with friends also visiting home so sorry in advance for thanksgiving.
I have no idea what im doing. to join the anti ghandi or anti wave bandwagon?
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also that's a lot of people with 0 games played and while some of them im sure played elsewhere it still makes me feel better about being a newb
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I honestly would have been less suspicious of Wave if all his post said was to vote ghandi because he is young as shit. Instead he had to color code everything! The color coding is way too strong for me. Wave please QQQQ
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Not to mention he's totally lying about his role.
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I would assume Wave is a high priority target for mafia if he's not scum, so no reason to lynch him Day 1, his alignment is basically revealed Day 2 if he's still alive.
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On October 11 2014 10:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Not to mention he's totally lying about his role.
Well that's the thing, everyone is lying until you know for certain what they say is true.
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