EPTOn October 07 2014 10:30 hzflank wrote:
What exactly is a shadow?
What exactly is a shadow?
its like a hydra except only one player posts and is generally looking to their shadow for advice (or vice versa)
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On October 12 2014 06:25 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, hai! I'm town! +1 | ||
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player: "<insert any possible response ever>" damdred: " {!} Le Scum I caught you!" such plays bro. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:38 geript wrote: I already like DP. Nothing strong but he gives me the warm fuzzies which make me want to let him "support" me. yeah I've heard good things about DP's support amiright? | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:40 DarthPunk wrote: What the fuck is it with people whinging about try harding. Firstly: This is not try harding. Secondly: Why would you not try your best? Makes no sense and annoys the shit out of me. many people thrive on being able to troll the early game for funsies until everyone gets to the thread. I for one prefer the route this game is taking so..yeah. This is a no fun zone. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:43 DarthPunk wrote: I mean you can do both also. Anyway Hopeless! what do you think about damdred? *shrug*. I dont know what towntell he's talking about, if I figure it out I'll let you know. Seems legit so far. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:48 geript wrote: I almost forgot. All named VTs must 100% claim now. Is this like claiming miller but helpful instead? What about the possible game mods. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Hi! I'm sqrtofneg1, which equates to i. Therefore you should lynch me. He literally claims scum....and geript already made that "joke" sigh | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:54 geript wrote: I'm 100% sure that BH would do a balanced setup and it gives important information on preventing fakeclaim messes that numpties will fuck up later. Plus I'm a boss at figuring out setups. Okay well I'm Prime. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:56 Chairman Ray wrote: Did I get the wrong role pm? The one I got says I'm town... was there a mistake? Must be. 2/3 down, games almost solved. Good job boys. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:01 GlowingBear wrote: Conclusion: geript is mafia tryhard and you are suspicious of being mafia or trying to look as mafia could you rephrase this so that it makes sense this time? | ||
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I think he's calling you fluffy | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:11 GlowingBear wrote: Geript: trying too hard at the start of the game, picking on little things. He is mafia DarthPunk: his vote on damdred is too scummy. He is either bad mafia (which I don't believe so, he is a legend  ) or he tried to look as mafia for some reason.Start ignoring me, I really believe this at the moment. DP is intentionally trying to look scummy? is that your argument here? | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:18 GlowingBear wrote: I'm saying he could. I don't want to discuss that anymore, really. Too bad if you don't want to. Would you prefer to rescind your read on DP? | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:25 DarthPunk wrote: I also think we three could all be town. The only thing that gives me pause is "vet balancing" IM not sure if BH does it or not though. This is BH, the strongest advocate for RNG everything. I'm pretty confident the game is 100% random | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:27 geript wrote: Hopeless, Damdred and Sqrt are the only people I'm interested in lynching right now. I'm going to watch the pro tour for a bit, but I'm like 65% sure both DP and VE are town which is better than expected for now. So we're probably looking at just killing the weak links for an easy win. so about the other like 5 or 6 players who havent posted yet... | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote: They're all guilty until proven innocent. Haven't you played before? whoosh | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote: This is worrisome. You guys started the game picking on small, insignificant things, and some pointless votes were thrown around. Wasn't too long before you guys all started town reading one another. Either you guys all have very obvious town metas, or this may indicate a conversation between mafia. this isnt worrisome. if it gets to the end of D1 and none of them has flipped out on each other, i'll start looking for shifty eyes. | ||
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geript townie for tryhard VE is buddying, null. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:43 GlowingBear wrote: He "parroted" me. Gotta hear more from him. I'm really worried about sqrt right now. He said hi and disappeared i'm more concerned that he claimed scum, but thats just me. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:52 Damdred wrote: How did GB dodgee? He seems to have answered every question i put to him about it, what do you think about all of his responses? he keeps saying "i dont want to talk about this anymore" re: his DP read. | ||
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On October 12 2014 07:59 GlowingBear wrote: Hope, explain to me mafia motivation behind clearly saying that I don't want to talk about DP but I'm free to talk about anything else. lack of transparency, accountability and clarity. | ||
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On October 12 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote: I'm at a party and on a phone, but check damdreds play in this game and tell me if it isn't similar. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467879-zesty-italian-dressing-micro-mafia?user=Damdred | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn thinks Oats is now confirmed town GB. ggnore. I think oats is town too, but he's also bad :S | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote: It's completely unsubstantiated. I don't give a shit if he links me another game, without him saying what /he/ finds similar then it's a complete airball. In the context that you played in the game he linked, do you have a similar read on damdred? or is it not a relevant comparsion, considering 5-player, instant majority etc. | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not relevant - there was very little similar about how one had to play both alignments between the games. and yet GB thinks he can justify a townread on damdred with it. Did you even notice that he'd liked that game earlier? | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:34 Hopeless1der wrote: and yet GB thinks he can justify a townread on damdred with it. Did you even notice that he'd | ||
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yeah you ninja'd me kind of. why not comment on it before now? | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:43 GlowingBear wrote: I actually said that his line of questioning was similar to his townplay, like the one you could find on that micro mafia. I think damdred is more inclined to do unsubstantiated wall of posts when he is mafia. I have yet to search for a game he played as mafia to show you that, but I'm too lazy to do that. But it's up to you to believe it or not. Just find and lynch scum. I also said that I'm ready to rescind my town read on him. Reason being: he is too passive. It is not up to us to believe. This is why you are being scumread, you say you know something then refuse to share with the class. Do you have a reason at all or are you making up bullshit? we dont know, hence we ask. | ||
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On October 13 2014 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Woah red scary. Hey hopeless, you wanna lynch rikoty? Cause thats totally happening I don't particularly want to, he doesnt seem scummy. For the sake of my stomach, yeah sure lets do this. | ||
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On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote: Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it. How do you feel about CR's case? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/46135-tvz-help-vs-hydralurk wtf? | ||
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On October 13 2014 09:51 DarthPunk wrote: Yeha do you think townies always read the game? I mean town kush never reads the game. well from reading his other games, he seemed much more interactive with the thread. Was never this forceful about scumreads either, but he did say that so thats kind of null. | ||
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On October 13 2014 09:58 DarthPunk wrote: I mean I could be wrong and sqrt could be scum and I am just reading into things way too much. But I still don't want to lynch him until I see more if you know what I mean. yeah i mean i wanted to talk to him..then he made that last post | ||
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On October 13 2014 12:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I havent called anyone town man. Whatttttt. except Dp you called GB and rayn town for fighting for 2 pages (maybe changed your mind on GB), tried to sheep CR on sqrt and yeah DP. anyways, who do you want to lynch? | ||
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"except those 4 guys" ... Is Sn0 mafia Oats? | ||
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Why is sn0 so bad? I get ritoky, but not sn0 that much it feels way more about the shitposting angle than the totes mafia angle. | ||
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On October 13 2014 12:26 DarthPunk wrote: Can people explain why they want to lynch ritoky? my stomach cant handle it. I thought we were discussing policy lynches. | ||
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On October 13 2014 12:29 kushm4sta wrote: I really do want to play it's just stupid bh decided to start on the worst possible day. Help me get into the game without having to read all 32 pages? everyone is town. go. | ||
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yeah totes. BH fckd up, he rolled us all town. You think I'm wrong? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468969-avogadros-number-mini-mafia-voting-thread?page=2#26 ... come on kush you can do it. | ||
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On October 13 2014 12:41 kushm4sta wrote: so u were doing some cute thing when you said everyone is town? or is that your actual stance on the game right now? there are filters for that. I think GB and sqrt are scummy. sn0man is a coinflip that I have been semi-coerced into voting and ritoky is trolling us with food. otherwise yeah mostly townreads atm. | ||
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On October 13 2014 12:50 kushm4sta wrote: so you want me to read your filter? will i find good stuff there? GB - dunno but he looked pretty townie in the 2 posts or so I read. SQRT I just read his whole filter (the effort!). Why is he scummy? ritoky seems like he is just doing a random thing where he posts food, which is whatever. His posts have content though so what do you think of that? sqrt's effort is junk, his reads make little to no sense to me and he's demonstrably not reading the game. GB could go either way I still think he's scummy but maybe he's full pants-on-head.. I think ritoky looks townie outside of being a dick. Still wouldn't mind lynching him for shits and giggles though. | ||
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I'm going back to sqrt. | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote: That question is a prelude to lynching me and you arent lynching me. you may want to look again. | ||
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are there content related reasons that damdred is scummy? | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote: that is true. I retract my aggressive statement. Hopeless, do you agree/disagree? figuring that out. | ||
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On October 14 2014 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript uses page-count in filter to condemn Damdred when Damdred is evidently (and expressly) not around to make the posts. Rather than make a read on his content (which he should be doing if he's "seriously filtering him now") he falls back on activity to justify his vote. Geript is looking really really bad to me. lool | ||
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On October 14 2014 06:05 DarthPunk wrote: Jesus I suck. SO we have three primes??? I am prime, Hopeless claimed prime. Sn0_Man was prime. well that sucks. | ||
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Unless both DP and I are lying, setup D was rolled. You literally have to call us both mafia to think another setup was rolled. If any power role flips (or even claims), you lynch me and DP and rofl all the way to the bank. So now that we know D was rolled, you're down to 33% chance to have 1, 2, or 3 primes present in the game. Does that still seem unreasonable? | ||
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anyways, GLOWINGBEAR WHERE YOU AT? WE HAVE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS HERE. | ||
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Gee I wonder why On October 15 2014 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote: So you think that GB fakeclaimed as town to pressure you? Oh yeah, its because I know there are no power roles. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:49 Chairman Ray wrote: Hopeless is talking like GB is town, which concerns me. he has to be town. If he's mafia he's trading 1v1, that is never a winning solution. | ||
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On October 15 2014 07:52 geript wrote: We agree on that. There's a unlikely chance that GB is town camel aiming and he's prime but meh. I find the lackadaisical attitude toward DP claiming prime far more telling. Even if he's townreading DP why the "well that sucks" response if hopeless in town. it means no chance at cop or doctor geript. For some type of setup god, you're really bad at this. | ||
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On October 15 2014 08:04 Chairman Ray wrote: The only part of the big long post that 'seemed' to be written before the nightkill was the two and a half lines on DP. Everything else applies equally before and after. That's not half. It would have been much less effort to remove those two and a half lines than to explain yourself. This reads to me like "Hey, I made a read on DP, which means I had no idea he was going to die!" ##Vote: sqrtofneg1 Considering that you wouldn't have known he was going to (fake)claim cop, does GB playing setup speculation feel like a super townie "im figuring the game out" kind of thing to you? B/C that's the extent of sqrt's read of GB. | ||
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On October 15 2014 08:11 GlowingBear wrote: I checked Rayn. I thought he was going to die instead of DP. Why does that matter to you? You had a town read on me and hopeless isn't even playing the game. Why are you hesitating? wat? i am hopeless. | ||
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On October 15 2014 08:14 Chairman Ray wrote: IMO, parity cop should check the towniest people Not when you expect them to die. You're looking to confirm as many people as possible without relying on flips as parity cop. | ||
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On October 15 2014 08:18 Chairman Ray wrote: Either way, since I would play parity cop checking the towniest person first and then unknowns later on, it stands to reason that other people might play that way too, regardless if it's optimal or not. Oh well. He didnt check anyone because he's not a cop. | ||
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On October 15 2014 08:21 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, I thought it was damdred. Completely reasonable to check someone you expect to die. If I get a check night 2 I'll know for sure the other person's alignment. I will let rayn tell you you're wrong this time. Obviously you won't believe me. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Like here's where your story falls to pieces. If you're parity cop then you knew going into the night - not at the end of the night but GOING INTO the night that there were 3 primes claimed. This means that from YOUR perspective, you knew that there was 1 between DP and Hopeless and that there is ZERO DOCTOR. That means that you DO NOT get a check when you "out", because mafia will KILL YOU. *hint* hes not a cop. | ||
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- I KNOW he's lying. - I think he's town because of 1v1 suicide pact reasons. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:22 GlowingBear wrote: Reaction testing. Maybe I even could get hopeless to concede if he was mafia. Anyway, just think about it. I wouldn't rescind if I was mafia. I would've fight you and even manage to mislynch hopeless because his filter is shit. Or mislynch me and blame me for the worst play of the year as town. saywhatnow? | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:29 GlowingBear wrote: Geript you were ok with lynching any of us. At this point of the game, you could have an idea of who was acting scummy and who wasn't Hopeless wasn't contributing until now. I was. It was okay to believe that hopeless was mafia and I was town, specially considering that fake claiming now is a poor play as mafia. Yet you had no idea who to lynch. I expect mafia to fake a confusion or insta voting than actually trying to understand the scenario first. And that's exactly what you and kush did. fake confusion or instavote... which leaves town to actually confusion? Is that the tell we're going for here? GB why you gotta pull this halfbaked shit I really want to just vote you and call it a day. | ||
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touche. You're still retarded. | ||
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Can we please discuss sqrt? GB actually raised a decent point overnight on him. Go check out any of sqrt's games, he doesnt do this massive list posts. He has the same style of posting, but its way more broken up, 1 thing at a time, discuss it in thread, develop his reads instead of this game where he sits in a corner and plucks posts from a filter. This game he posts a list of surefire reads and votes, then disappears. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote: He will mostly hold the claim and try to get me lynched. I don't believe he would defend me with the 1 for 1 argument. honestly, am i supposed to suspect you're mafia? Like if it gets to LYLO and we're hurting for a lynch i'm going to bring this up but right now what you did is fucking suicide. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:45 GlowingBear wrote: My gameplay vary. I like to try eccentric ways to find scum. They mostly suck. But well, I try, and I have a good time with it. His last wall looked like the game I've brought from him. I'm not THAT sure we should lynch him. Maybe he was really busy. I'd rather look at his play today. Ritoky is concerning me the most now. And Damdred. His last wall is distinctly NOT like the one you quoted from detention for the reasons I stated. You quoted a post where he focuses on ONE item. This game he is not focussed at all and his scumreads are afterthoughts to the rest of his list post. | ||
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On October 15 2014 09:56 GlowingBear wrote: Regarding Damdred, Check this ongoing game (Football) where he already flipped. He is much more inquisitive with his reads there. He has 3 pages of filter on October 13 there, and here he has half. He is not trying to solve the game here. I'm convinced damdred is mafia. yeah if damdred doesnt step his game up absolutely. D1 is kind of a writeoff though. Playing in 2games plus afk driving. | ||
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whats the problem here? grammar nazi-ing the use of the term "they" when referring to multiple persons of the same faction? | ||
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On October 15 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote: Yes. He is putting himself outside the town faction That's putting the onus on the individual to follow through. Grammatically its correct. GB, | ||
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On October 15 2014 10:26 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, but stopping derping around and being serious, what do you think of ritoky? Don't particularly mind ritoky. There was the odd time that he beat DP to the punch. His posts are almost strictly being a dick. I'm counting on the fact that DP has died to make him actually play the game without foodposting. Hasn't made an impact on the game so far, kind of sitting by and making comments on the game without interacting. | ||
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##unvote ##Vote: Geript So...who's around? | ||
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"town" quotes "town" quotes CR SCUM (superficial read) "townish maybe" quote "dunno" "dunno" "town" quotes "SOMETHING INCONCLUSIVE" quotes "Hopeless scum lol" Vote hopeless | ||
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On October 17 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote: am i still in this game? technically. Not that you seem to give a shit. | ||
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On October 17 2014 10:33 GlowingBear wrote: He is trying to understand why your observation on the replacement was relevant. you think he'd like the chicken or the fish when we lunch him? | ||
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On October 18 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I already did. Kush is incapable of townreading his scumbuddies. so you're saying...kush is town right? because sqrt is like 99% scum to me. | ||
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On October 18 2014 02:47 GlowingBear wrote: You know what? Fuck this game. Only damdred gave thoughts on my case. Kush hasn't even read it properly #bestcase2014 10/10 would lynch | ||
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On October 18 2014 05:19 Alakaslam wrote: What number am I thinking right now Madame gresilda Threeve. A combination between three and five. | ||
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Your point is invalid. You did not say you were thinking of a number until you asked me what number you were thinking of. GB's case is that a range was given but the number chosen was outside it. | ||
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On October 18 2014 05:31 Alakaslam wrote: No you did not actually see my point. GlowingBear is assigning intent to posts made by sqrt with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY. This adds strength to a posts influence on a strange level outside of reason. He can't possibly know a poster's intent however, so doing so breeds suspicion from me. What does he think, he has ESP? A fortune teller? Active scum can benefit from acting like a fortune teller. Being absolutely certain of complete shit can win a lynch as either alignment but slam...glowingbear IS a fortune teller with ESP | ||
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On October 20 2014 07:37 GlowingBear wrote: Town would never win after Hopeless claimed. Anyway, this was a very bad game because most townies lurked and VE just fucked off. Bah. Yeah I milked that for all it was worth. My failure to do anything as "confirmed" town seemed to have killed the game so kind of sorry, but it was effective. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On October 20 2014 07:41 GlowingBear wrote: You did a very good job admitting I could be town. I would expect mafia to freak out and go full throttle on me. thing is that I knew you were lying either way. If I was actually prime, there are no other power roles. As scum, I literally know what the setup is. You basically can't be scum to me because of the 1v1 analysis. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 20 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote: But you didn't freak out. Like, you could mislynch me, I'd flip green, and you would still carry your prime claim. i guess that'd have been possible. I'm glad I didnt because you buried sqrt for us. btw, wtf was with his gameplay? It really was incredibly scummy. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 21 2014 07:58 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Did you guys not roleblock anyone? well we sort of forgot to the first night, but we knew what the setup was so it didn't matter. Dude what was up with your play this game? did you just have zero time? | ||
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