EPTOn October 10 2014 01:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Obi you didn't answer my question
Obi you didn't answer my question
I'm ignoring whatever it is because I'm sure it's not really important.
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ObiWanShinobi
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I'm ignoring whatever it is because I'm sure it's not really important. | ||
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Palmar
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batsnacks
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I don't understand | ||
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Damdred
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KelsierSC
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On October 10 2014 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm ignoring whatever it is because I'm sure it's not really important. it is very important and i want you to answer it now | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On October 10 2014 01:27 Damdred wrote: Obi, I wish that you would of played d1 like this, its magical seeing you play when you are motivated. :D | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote: @Hopeless, do you think Obi's push on you makes him mafia? tbh feels townie. Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote: tbh feels townie. Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1. Qed. | ||
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Palmar
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batsnacks
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On October 10 2014 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote: tbh feels townie. Early game, HF bounces all over everything he can. He generally does that as either alignment. Way easier to assume he's town than to try and analyze him. after his night posting I'm sure hes town. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: TLDR: I am looking for easy targets so I will buddy up to HF despite thinking he was scum early on day 1. Qed. You show me where I actually scumread HF, go ahead. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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batsnacks
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Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 09 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote: So now that your top mafia, hf, has said he isn't actually the cop and so doesn't have a check on hope. you still want to push on it and won't consider anything else. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote: Where did my post go? Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1. as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote: as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety? And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
seems like he now has to find reasons to call.hope mafia none of them are convincing. Hope asked hf to explain a read and didn't play referee between obi and hf so he is mafia? Other reasons aren't true. When did hope scum read hf? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote: And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe. Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:35 Hopeless1der wrote: You show me where I actually scumread HF, go ahead. It doesn't matter if you thought he was actually scum or not, but the issue is that when a player confuses you or looks scummy or whatever, you go after them and ask them questions and try to figure them out. You never, ever did this. The points behind the motivations of your HF/Obi interaction are still superscum and you have yet to explain them away at all. I see no reason to ever move my vote, and if the others have any sense, they will sheep me to glorious victory. GLORIOUS VICTORY, COMRADES. | ||
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Damdred
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To start On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote: I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that. Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people. We see lian give Oats a townread for no reason at all in this post, in fact people who know Oats and have played with Oats are giving it serious thought that his over reaction is due to being scum read for something that he should not of been, over reacting is normally not in Oats but he did it here and very forcefully. Nothing he posted until he came back later was towny in the least, his town pass for Oats feels almost like TMI. At the same time, he discredits or throws doubt on the people that are pressuring or starting to scum read Oats. On October 07 2014 01:21 liancourt wrote: I see you claiming him as defensive and questioning his joke claim. You didnt need to scum read him. You were like the catalyst others did it for you. he points the discrediting at Bats specifically here throwing doubt on Bats, when bats did something that was really towny for him. He makes a few posts that I won't quote for length that somehow try to throw dirt on bats for not having a towny mindset but I think most of bats posts up to this point have been pretty towny. On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote: Never like lottery type things so I ll pass on the RNG lynch. I want to choose my own lynchee. In reverse logic theres a 78 percent chance to kill a town than a mafia so its against the odds. And besides you cant question lynch votes that were RNGed. They will just say oh it was random so it doesnt have any meaning to it. Unreadable. Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it Lian really fights against the rng lynch, which looks really bad in hindsite of course, and a lot of his filter early is fighting against or throwing dirt/scumreading BH for his choice of the RNG lynch explaining that it is mafia favored.... Funny since we caught mafia (All hail rng lynch). He did not even consider that the person that it targeted just peaced out and the reaction that he had to it, it's almost like Lian tried to get the pressure off OO even before it started and tried to discredit the method. On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote: At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. His scum list also, or rather his null list with random people. Everything he writes he can come off of fast. Later on he says that he is using elimination method to get to his scum reads. But hes not really there are plenty of people playing on the fringe that should be grouped in the scum group. And all of his reads are easy to come off of there are no real conclusions and even though he mentions OO as scummy he refuses to push him or any of his lynch. Instead he just puts them there almost as if hes soft pushing them and then leaves it alone even though he receives a bit of pressure from storr from it. Even though some of the people on his list have been doing things, his reads do not show much progression and he has not given much additional thought into them. He also discredits grack, and tries to throw dirt on the vig claim. Which makes little sense doing so. Overall I think hes the most scummy person in the thread, all of his reads are pretty thin and easy to come off of in pressure. His top scum reads were basically and are lurkers besides Storr who is actually doing stuff. Palmar is somewhat doing things he looks like his normal self and me. A lot of what he does is to discredit people and he does not pressure people, and looks like some of his stuff comes from TMI. Overall i'd say lynch him with fire (sorry for the rushed post running out of time) | ||
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