• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:22
CEST 17:22
KST 00:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End6Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles1GSTL Returns in 2026!43Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement!
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II: Brood War Player Announcement 3/4 - soO BW General Discussion Rush's Odyssey Controversy [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group B [ASL22] Ro24 Group A Small VOD Thread 2.0 CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
The Letting Off Steam Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6934 users

Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 14 15 16 Next All
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1066
On October 09 2014 02:46 Damdred wrote:
I don't mind being on your list hf, i've been kind of lazy the past day and a half i'll bleed town soon as i get on a comp and reread and post some reads.


Don't worry dude I know you are town, I got ya back.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 08 2014 17:50 GMT
#1070
On October 09 2014 02:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alternatively alternatively, BH's analysis was actually really bad and he's mostly just rehashing stuff other people have said.

Why do people have him as town?


why was his analysis bad?

I have him as town because he put the focus on OO and got him lynched.

Grak called him town with some good analysis.

Brought up how OO disapeared after the awkward post
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 08 2014 21:37 GMT
#1126
So going to bed going to give more details in day but for now

store,bh,bs,grack ,hf and palmer are my strong town.

scum are obi and lian

everyone else was towny enough d1 or null but voted on OO so need to evaluate them d2 .

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:04 GMT
#1353
Read through the shenanigans of the night.

I really like the play of HF, the fake vigi claim was really good and I like his cop check. It fits with hf's logic to check someone in the OO wagon and he also said that he wasn't sure about HF earlier in n1, I read him as town around the votes and the night phase so I believe the claim.

Hopeless has been null to me most of the game, however there are some things that make me uncomfortable about this lynch. hopeless was null to a lot of people and hf said he wasn't sure why he was reading him town, he was in the OO vote which is where I am sure a mafia lies. It could possibly be that he was framed.

Secondly obi is one of the people who is totally on board this wagon. Now I am pretty sure obi is scummy. Also obi said that he thinks the lynch is outside the OO wagon.
But his two scum are now lynch lian/hope. both of them voted for OO.
I don't like lynching someone who my top scum is really happy to bandwagon behind.

Also obi had hf as one of his top mafia reads but now doesn't even question the legitimacy of a fake vig,fake medic, real cop.

I like hf as cop but I really don't think hope is mafia.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:15 GMT
#1357
On October 09 2014 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
So let's assume you're wrong on obi (you probably are), there's 2 pretty much confirmed town on the wagon. Why have you jumped to the massive conclusion that not only did someone check hopeless who wasn't even a big scum read/likely check but that he's also framed instead of lian (if hes town) and why haven't you instead thought that your read on obi might be wrong instead?


I think hopeless was a very likely check if you are the cop, for the reasons I posted.

I don't think I am wrong on obi, his play has been very scummy and inconsistent.


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:15 GMT
#1358
On October 09 2014 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
So let's assume you're wrong on obi (you probably are), there's 2 pretty much confirmed town on the wagon. Why have you jumped to the massive conclusion that not only did someone check hopeless who wasn't even a big scum read/likely check but that he's also framed instead of lian (if hes town) and why haven't you instead thought that your read on obi might be wrong instead?


if obi is town...

then hope and lian are probably mafia
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:18 GMT
#1359
but I really don't like how obi is so quick to bandwagon behind you considering you were his top mafia read.

He hasn't even questioned you being cop but is happy to go with it.

He asks "has anyone given thoughts on hope"
next post "lynch this guy #vote"

His post was "lynch lian/hope" even though he said n1 to lynch outside the OO vote

I'm not lynching someone this guy is happy to lynch,
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:18 GMT
#1361
On October 09 2014 13:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The shenanniest of shenannigans.

Seriously though, let me take the wheel. I got this shit.

##vote hopeless1der


On October 09 2014 13:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's nice. I can get hopeless lynched without you.


Do you think you are in any position to lead a lynch on anyone, like be fucking real dude.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:20 GMT
#1363
On October 09 2014 16:19 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 16:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
So let's assume you're wrong on obi (you probably are), there's 2 pretty much confirmed town on the wagon. Why have you jumped to the massive conclusion that not only did someone check hopeless who wasn't even a big scum read/likely check but that he's also framed instead of lian (if hes town) and why haven't you instead thought that your read on obi might be wrong instead?


if obi is town...

then hope and lian are probably mafia


why are you lumping me and hope together?


you were scummy d1 and you voted on OO.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:31 GMT
#1365
On October 09 2014 16:25 liancourt wrote:
not like me voting for damdred, storr, plamer were gonna change anything because no one thought the same thing as me.


True but as I stated earlier voting OO is a good place for mafia to hide.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 07:32 GMT
#1366
On October 09 2014 16:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 16:25 liancourt wrote:
not like me voting for damdred, storr, plamer were gonna change anything because no one thought the same thing as me.


True but as I stated earlier voting OO is a good place for mafia to hide.



Hence why hope was a really good cop check.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 09:03 GMT
#1381
On October 09 2014 17:50 Palmar wrote:
Can anyone give me a rundown of what the hell you guys are talking about so I don't have to wade through the pile of softclaims and shit?


or just read the thread, you know...play the fucking game maybe
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 09:04 GMT
#1382
On October 09 2014 18:02 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 09 2014 17:10 liancourt wrote:
On October 09 2014 16:53 Holyflare wrote:
Lian you keep saying you doubt things but don't provide any analysis on what happened with the mafia night kill and where it went. Who were they shooting and why didn't they die?


that would mean i would believe grack is vig

u are cop

and that there is a doctor.

I believe none of it and just see mafia killing oats.


If you just see mafia killing oats then you should be voting grack for fake claiming vigilante


i should be voting you for fake claiming vig and cop and claiming there is a medic. But i'm inclined to think this was just another one of your "ploys". Like I said, you seem to enjoy trolling.


If you think Blazinghand is town then i saved your town read by claiming vig. If you really really think oatsmaster was a likely mafia kill after doing absolutely nothing the entire game I'm almost forced to believe you are mafia.


hmm lets see who else have done nothing...damd, storr and palmer. And why would you think mafia would target BH?


storr has been pretty active actually, I think his single mindedness is pretty town.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 09:04 GMT
#1383
Also Damd is town so.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 12:53 GMT
#1409
On October 09 2014 21:38 batsnacks wrote:
Would lynch:
Hopeless
Damdred
Kelsier
Maybe Store


why?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:19 GMT
#1411
Alright Going to give where I am at right now.

I am basically 100% convinced that Obi is mafia.

Around the voting stage and post lynch he was really scummy. He tried to get some weird lynch going on palmar and then backed off it, left his vote on hf in some over the top display of outrage, seemed upset after the vote where we caught mafia.

So in the night phase he says something like" oh we should lynch outside of the OO wagon", which is like such a generic and obviously incorrect thing to say. Also because it means he wants to lynch Storr,grack,bs and palmar, who are clearly town in my eyes.
Then despite saying this he says yeh lets lynch lian/hope. Both of who voted on OO. even though he said we should lynch outside the OO vote.

Then HF claims he is cop, and even though hf is obi's top mafia obi is like "yeh lets get hope!" he doesn't even question that hf is the real cop even though he was his top scum. I don't understand how in his eyes he can blindly follow hf.

Since then all his posts are just "lynch hope" "why aren't you lynching hope".

So i'm sure obi is mafia which makes it pretty obvious to me that hope is town.

The third mafia.

Between Slam, Dama, lian.

I need to see more of dam but I read him as town d1 and his play is consistent with the way he played last game and he got heat for it that game aswell.
Slam I want to post more.
Lian I read as scum previously and of that group of 3 he is the scummiest.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:25 GMT
#1413
Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.)


He also posted this, and then the next thing he posts about hopeless is how he is mafia, I don't see any progression of the the read at all.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:30 GMT
#1414
On October 09 2014 22:24 batsnacks wrote:
I don't understand at all why Liam is scummy.


Well storr zerg made a good case on him which I agree with.

My personal reason was that he gave his list post in which everyone was null
and then said he didn't want to lynch OO for a principaled reason even though the RNG thing happened much earlier and was irrelevant.

Also

On October 07 2014 19:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:

See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic.


I use this logic if I have played with that person before.

Show nested quote +


I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.


well what you said is that your 3 would be storr, damd and palmer.

Even though OO has been scummier and storr/damd have contributed more than him.

this means you would lynch storr/damd over OO by your reasoning right.

I don't know, I just think you don't want to vote OO just because it is a random vote but he is acting scummy as fuck and that is a good reason to lynch him over others. so using "oh it was random" at this point is kind of a weak defence. I would happily lynch OO right now tbh.




Finally I think the 3rd mafia hid his vote on OO and out of slam,dam and lian I find lian scummiest.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:35 GMT
#1416
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:35 GMT
#1417
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


Also using the RNG defence at that time was irrelvant, we were lynching OO because he was scummy as fuck not because of RNG.
Zerg for Life
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Main Stage Day 1
IntoTheiNu 923
SHIN 179
CranKy Ducklings SOOP163
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 179
Classic 90
ByuN (SOOP) 77
Solar (SOOP) 57
Rex 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4544
Shuttle 2413
EffOrt 2326
Mini 861
Horang2 709
Soma 673
Light 549
ZerO 458
Larva 306
Stork 251
[ Show more ]
Snow 220
ggaemo 193
Soulkey 152
Rush 147
hero 111
Mong 72
sorry 63
ToSsGirL 62
Liquid`Ret 46
Hyun 43
sSak 31
Killer 30
JYJ 25
Hm[arnc] 21
Free 21
soO 20
Dewaltoss 19
Sacsri 17
Rock 17
zelot 16
IntoTheRainbow 14
Noble 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
qojqva4379
Dendi2796
BananaSlamJamma547
League of Legends
Reynor81
Counter-Strike
x6flipin468
fl0m195
markeloff130
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor132
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi844
B2W.Neo524
ceh9472
Lowko308
PiGStarcraft217
Liquid`VortiX206
ToD200
Hui .195
Mew2King140
KnowMe84
ArmadaUGS81
QueenE60
Trikslyr52
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 14
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 78
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 26
• blackmanpl 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV530
League of Legends
• TFBlade1079
Other Games
• Shiphtur67
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
8h 38m
Replay Cast
17h 38m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 38m
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
19h 38m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.