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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 02:05 GMT
#381
I have seen this same dumb shut storm in 5 games already.

3 in which I played.

Liancourt I now know, you are not a smurf.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:40 GMT
#382
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.

Bleed towniness.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 02:55 GMT
#383
##vote obiwanshinobi


reasons: read filter
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:55 GMT
#384
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#385
On October 07 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
##vote obiwanshinobi


reasons: read filter


Get at me you jobber.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:57 GMT
#386
lol he actually voted me.

Okay. I looked at your filter and I still don't see reasoning for it. Explain.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 02:58 GMT
#387
reason: your filter
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 02:59 GMT
#388
On October 07 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
reason: your filter

Works to get me reading
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:00 GMT
#389
"My filter" doesn't cut it.

##vote holyflare

Explain.
Retired.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 03:02 GMT
#390
I expect because all he is doing is asking open ended questions whilst giving no answers?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:03 GMT
#391
I can't give answers when nobody is asking me questions.

And I don't see what about my questions is so open ended.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 03:06 GMT
#392
open ended questions, telling people what is scummy and what is not scummy, no answers, no pushing, no anything really at all and then complains nobody is pushing the thread forward
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#393
Things I thought were worth commenting on while reading the thread

Random shit about oats. tl;dr i think he's town.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 06 2014 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 20:27 batsnacks wrote:
So should we all mass claim and then take it from there?

great plan.

Im totes a vt.

This looks like hes trolling off the bat. "You can believe me *winkwink* I'm totes town"
On October 06 2014 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
I think oats was sarcastic and slam is chupazi

grack agrees (or i agree with grack)
On October 06 2014 21:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 21:05 Grackaroni wrote:
What happens next? We random lynch into the VT claims? Sounds good to me


That sounds reasonable. Before that though I think you, oats, and slam should explain the benefits of claiming in this setup.

whyd you skip liancourt?




On October 06 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Morning guys. We need to liven this place up a bit. Who's ready for some FOOTBALL?

@batsnacks how sure are you that you've caught mafia there...?


See: "Are you a fucking retard?"
Re:
On October 06 2014 21:36 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: grackaroni

(from the voting thread btw)



On October 06 2014 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
It blows my mind how that could be seen as anything other than a joke post.
FOR BOTH SCUM AND TOWN WHICH MAKES IT USELESS BAT.
COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS.


He said we shouldn't mass claim. Like. He flat out said it was bad. You AGREE WITH HIM..... Yet you are yelling at him..................???!?!??

...
On October 06 2014 20:27 batsnacks wrote:
So should we all mass claim and then take it from there?

just saying...




[insert calling oatsmaster scum bullshit arguments here]


@BH how can you say OO is super scum because he trolled in the face of RNGesus? The scummiest thing he's done is been relatively inactive, but I liked his tone in this post:
On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay good, now that's out of the way.

#1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion.

#2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter

#3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt

Maybe you walk me through your thought process again as to why matyring to RNG is scummy?

On October 07 2014 03:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 03:38 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote:
Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it


You're so incredibly uninformed, it hurts. I made one post, and that post provided the RNG #. How do you think it would look if I said "actually, ignore that post, we're going to use this one instead?" It would look awful, and I have obviously never done that and did not do that this game.

If you really think that my RNG system is gameable, you simply don't understand it. Due to your lack of comprehension, you are hereby disqualified from any future discussion of RNG until you apologise for your ignorance.



Oh so you declare the post beforehand. My mistake I just skimmed too much text.

Even so. I dont approve because its random. And just flushes everything we discussed up until now down the drain.

And theres discrepancies in that some people will do it and some people wont.

Town will do it in the off chance they can get a scum. Mafia wont do it in the off chance they they get one of their own but the potential to lynch town randomly and being unreadable at the same time off sets that risk.


I'm not sorry to flush the "amazing" discussion of whether it's appropriate to use caps lock down the drain. If Oats is scum or not, whatever, but even you have to admit RNG is a better way of doing things than "did he inappropriately use capslock"

great post 10/10. Still don't think OO is scum though.




I want to call kelsier scum...but thats probably just the OMGUS talking. Literacy issues aside, he keeps pushing that BH is scum for derailing the thread which is a crock of shit imo. Lian is derailing it far more by insisting BH is scum after almost every player has said this is not alignment indicative.


On October 07 2014 08:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 08:06 Grackaroni wrote:
So when can we question you? The game where you roll scum and you say "go ahead and question me I'm scum so I'll be here until end game."

This game was the heavyweight championship game btw. tsk tsk

3-4 is the reasonable assumption for mafia with 14 people so the 22% isn't very strange to me.

Can we apply marv's lylo rule to HF?



On October 07 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
the math fails are strong.

A) 3/13=23%
B) 14 players (3/14 = 21.4%, 4/14=28.5%)
C) 3 mafia makes perfect sense given the roles present in this game.


omw home soon, will reread after i get there and get something to eat, expect me in ~3 hours max. p.s. stop using setup speculation for scumreads.


This doesn't account for 3rd parties.

I'm sorry, I'll spoon feed you:

Say "ahhhhhhhh"

B) 14 players
9 town and 1 (3p)martyr or 10 town
3 mafia
1 poisoner

9+1+3+1=14

10+3+1=14

3/14 chance to randomly lynch mafia
4/14 chance to randomly lynch anti-town

Happy now?


ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:09 GMT
#394
On October 07 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote:
open ended questions, telling people what is scummy and what is not scummy, no answers, no pushing, no anything really at all and then complains nobody is pushing the thread forward


*Can't give answers for questions people haven't asked me.
*Of course I'm going to tell people what I think is/isn't scummy because that's the objective of the game.
*I'm pushing Damdred/lion at the moment so I don't know where "no pushing" came from.
*I'm asking questions which get left open, and then I push for the thread to be more active. Which is apparently grounds for a scumread somehow.

Really this vote doesn't make any sense. If you have something to ask me/pressure me on, then get at me. Otherwise go do something else instead of lurk and then attack me as soon as I push for more activity.
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:13 GMT
#395
in an hour and a half witihn the 3 hours leading to the deadline time, less than a page was generated while I read the thread over. I think obiwan is justified in saying shits not getting done. Also all his filter is focussed on BH's RNG stuff.

-Tells people what is/isnt scummy
- no answers

what the fuck are you doing Holyflare?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:20 GMT
#396
obiwan who do you want to talk about?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:21 GMT
#397
Damdred/lion, mostly.

Opinions on them?
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#398
On October 07 2014 12:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred/lion, mostly.

Opinions on them?

goddman backspace key deleted my post

lian has his head up his ass about BH's RNG stuff but is so pigheaded about it I think he's town.

Damdred is scummy for saying oats makes his skin crawl, goading HF into voting oats, sitting on the sidelines for a bit then reneging on his (inconclusive..) oats-read. Recent BH/OO stuff is null.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#399
what do you think about me obiwan?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 07 2014 03:35 GMT
#400
On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.


That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.
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