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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:35 GMT
#401
On October 07 2014 12:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
what do you think about me obiwan?


You know what that post reads like?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you like me?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No
[ ] Maybe


^ This.

I guess you look town though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#402
On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.


That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.


That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched.

You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing.
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:39 GMT
#403
okay...how do you feel about grack* and/or kelsier?

Damdred you're thoughts on them as well?

*I know i've made no mention of him yet.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 07 2014 03:39 GMT
#404
On October 07 2014 12:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred/lion, mostly.

Opinions on them?

goddman backspace key deleted my post

lian has his head up his ass about BH's RNG stuff but is so pigheaded about it I think he's town.

Damdred is scummy for saying oats makes his skin crawl, goading HF into voting oats, sitting on the sidelines for a bit then reneging on his (inconclusive..) oats-read. Recent BH/OO stuff is null.


I think your reasons for scum reading me are bad honestly. Oats reaction was strange for him at the time, I've never seen oats react that way honestly which I've said before. Also I do not think I was goading hf at all, most of hf filter at the time was about scummy oats he had voted in thread and not in the voting thread and I asked. I don't see how I goaded at all especially since hf did not vote for oats
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:42 GMT
#405
I read it as goading because you didnt vote or scumread oats but were insistent that HF vote his scumread, oats. What would you call it?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 07 2014 03:43 GMT
#406
On October 07 2014 12:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.


That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.


That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched.

You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing.


Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 03:43 GMT
#407
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 07 2014 03:45 GMT
#408
On October 07 2014 12:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
I read it as goading because you didnt vote or scumread oats but were insistent that HF vote his scumread, oats. What would you call it?


I don't think I would call it goading not sure what I would call it, most of his filter was about oats being scum. He did not have a vote down and wanted to know why and if he would commit. HF isn't interested in oats atm so I found my answer
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:47 GMT
#409
On October 07 2014 12:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay...how do you feel about grack* and/or kelsier?

Damdred you're thoughts on them as well?

*I know i've made no mention of him yet.


I don't feel particularly confident reading either of those players right now. I'm looking, and they look kind of town I guess...Maybe.

I have no solid wisdom to impart here, lool.
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:49 GMT
#410
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it

yeah okay. timestamps are a useful skill toi have. i still think the point about his turnabout on oats (which as usual you've already pointed out, all hail based holyflare) is fair.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:51 GMT
#411
I'm headed to bed, I'll try to be more active tomorrow. 'night.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 07 2014 03:51 GMT
#412
I've already talked a little about kel, he's more of a null leaning towny really well see more when he's active.

Grack is pretty towny at this point.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:59 GMT
#413
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?
Retired.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
October 07 2014 04:05 GMT
#414
On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.


That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.


That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched.

You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing.


Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes.

Tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day. I could honestly still envision almost anyone getting lynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 04:10 GMT
#415
On October 07 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?


i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:15 GMT
#416
On October 07 2014 13:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?


i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter


If that's really your answer, then I'm afraid I'm going to have to get you lynched.
Retired.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
October 07 2014 04:18 GMT
#417
This HF/Obi argument has got to be the most boring shit fight of all time.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#418
I know. I wouldn't even classify it as a shit fight because I don't think that's what it is.

Holyflare is just being really dumb right now and it's hard to see him coming to those kinds of conclusions as town.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 07 2014 04:23 GMT
#419
it's not a shit fight, what he's done has been useless and his "push" isn't even a real push and leads to no conclusions and is in fact based on the false premise that damd doesn't think his push will gather information, he's complaining about what is happening in the thread (even though a large amount of players are actually in the EU timezone) but then has commented on absolutely nothing that has happened in the game so far and has only joined in to tell people whether something is scummy or not, like the entire first half of his filter is him telling people bh does this as both alignments which is a rehash of everything everyone already said and is redundant "contribution"

not only that but when i called him out on it he acted like there was nothing he COULD do because all his questions are unanswered yet he has not commented on anything that has happened previously apart from this bh thing
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#420
We already went over why your vote was stupid. Saying everything a second time won't make it any smarter.
Retired.
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