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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
October 06 2014 21:59 GMT
#301
On October 07 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason


>"rest of my case"
>implying there is a case
>implying there was ever a case
>doesn't understand sed

mfw
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#302
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes
Zerg for Life
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#303
Recognizing BH's town play is an art form. Actually after seeing 3 years of BH games I think it's pretty simple. Just look at his enthusiasm to play and see if he's making excuses to avoid contributing. When he's town he's always one of the main contributors and posts a lot. When he is scum - real life gets in the way of his ability to play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#304
If BH was town and decided he was going to RNG like he does in every game as every alignment and was only available at that point in time should he have withheld his usual entry to continue posting nothing?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
October 06 2014 22:05 GMT
#305
On October 07 2014 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes


OK, let me be one hundo percent clear:

You should vote OO. OO is scum, and RNG demands it. This is what I am saying. OO is ObviousOne. This is not a place of honor. OO is scum. This is a message, part of a system of messages. The message is that OO is scum, and you should vote him. This message is a warning about OO. We must vote OO. I consider myself to be a powerful player. OO must be lynched.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:05 GMT
#306
On October 07 2014 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason


>"rest of my case"
>implying there is a case
>implying there was ever a case
>doesn't understand sed

mfw

of course there is a case.

you deliberately disrupted town when it was being productive to give us a random name. Since then you haven't actually bothered to push on the name and seen quite content now that town is in a different Random path
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#307
On October 07 2014 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Recognizing BH's town play is an art form. Actually after seeing 3 years of BH games I think it's pretty simple. Just look at his enthusiasm to play and see if he's making excuses to avoid contributing. When he's town he's always one of the main contributors and posts a lot. When he is scum - real life gets in the way of his ability to play.


QFT, once BH gets out the pics of boxes you know your in trouble
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
October 06 2014 22:08 GMT
#308
On October 07 2014 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
If BH was town and decided he was going to RNG like he does in every game as every alignment and was only available at that point in time should he have withheld his usual entry to continue posting nothing?


Yeah, also basically this. I didn't particularly time my RNG. I just showed up in the thread, and decided to bring order to the madness with a clear lynch target, determined by RNG. If I had been in the thread earlier or later it would have come earlier or later. I did this because it was necessary.

On October 07 2014 07:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 07 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason


>"rest of my case"
>implying there is a case
>implying there was ever a case
>doesn't understand sed

mfw

of course there is a case.

you deliberately disrupted town when it was being productive to give us a random name. Since then you haven't actually bothered to push on the name and seen quite content now that town is in a different Random path


If you believe this, vote me. But you know in your heart of hearts that it is false. There was nothing "productive" that I disrupted, and by arguing with me rather than doing whatever it is you think was actually "productive" you give away your game. You find my push on OO interesting and compelling, don't you. It's driving a productive conversation, isn't it? Yes, I've routed the conversation differently, but you yourself don't have a townread on OO, and you know as well as I do he's been acting scummy. So, what's the deal, KSC? Is this rerouting of attention really bad? And if I'm scum, isn't drawing attention to me actually _good_? No, you're not coherent. I haven't disrupted town, I've led it, and somehow, you dislike this. Why?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:09 GMT
#309
On October 07 2014 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes


OK, let me be one hundo percent clear:

You should vote OO. OO is scum, and RNG demands it. This is what I am saying. OO is ObviousOne. This is not a place of honor. OO is scum. This is a message, part of a system of messages. The message is that OO is scum, and you should vote him. This message is a warning about OO. We must vote OO. I consider myself to be a powerful player. OO must be lynched.

again you haven't given a reason apart.from random number said so

before this we actually had discussion

going to sleep now pick this up tomorrow
Zerg for Life
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
October 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#310
On October 07 2014 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 07 2014 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes


OK, let me be one hundo percent clear:

You should vote OO. OO is scum, and RNG demands it. This is what I am saying. OO is ObviousOne. This is not a place of honor. OO is scum. This is a message, part of a system of messages. The message is that OO is scum, and you should vote him. This message is a warning about OO. We must vote OO. I consider myself to be a powerful player. OO must be lynched.

again you haven't given a reason apart.from random number said so

before this we actually had discussion

going to sleep now pick this up tomorrow


You can't say "things I agree with are discussion, and things I disagree with aren't discussion". That's not a valid way to have co-operative discourse.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#311
It's honestly a recurring theme in BH's scum play. When I played scum with him he smurfed and pretended he only had the ability to post during a small period of time and then wrote nothing but long overview posts with no analysis. He literally sat in the scum qt chatting with me for hours but wouldn't post at all in game during that period.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#312
Kel when you get back will you tell me what he actively disturbed? Was our thread conversation that good at the time?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#313
On October 06 2014 22:57 Damdred wrote:
Oats is being super weird this game and it makes my skin crawl, last time we played he got really defensive about claiming and fought against it pretty hard. That doesn't make me look good on Oats right now.

Bat you and me are friends this game!

On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote:
When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up


On October 07 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?!

Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted.

So are you scum reading BH Kel?

Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did?


this is a pretty weird chain of events by the way, incredibly simplified and surface level!

First of all you scum read him because when he played scum he did the exact same thing and then suddenly when the topic is pushed aside your read flips and his frustration is real (despite making your skin crawl originally) so much so that you overlook all the inconsistencies.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 22:12 GMT
#314
A musical is being filmed up the street from me. Good ol' Wilshire & Flower.

LA is awesome, DINNAE care what ppl sez
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 22:14 GMT
#315
I noticed that too it seemed like Damdred's read was just a mirror of thread sentiment. Which isn't necessarily indicative of scum as thread sentiment sways my opinion all the time but it's something.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:15 GMT
#316
yes and everything else damdy has done is asking random questions :/
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 22:16 GMT
#317
On October 07 2014 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 22:57 Damdred wrote:
Oats is being super weird this game and it makes my skin crawl, last time we played he got really defensive about claiming and fought against it pretty hard. That doesn't make me look good on Oats right now.

Bat you and me are friends this game!

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:37 Damdred wrote:
When I first read the interchange I was pretty sure that it was a joke, but oats reactions throughout the rest of the thread is just weird. Oats why are you so defensive? I've never seen you play like this after getting called scum, you usually do not react at all just go on about your day, so whats up


Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Thats just how BH is, RNG IS LIFE!?!

Reading over Oats again, his frustration seems real. A few things do not line up but i'm not so sure its alignment indicative i've never been good at reading oats granted.

So are you scum reading BH Kel?

Slam. I know you just put hf as a null correct? Do you make anything of hf putting all this pressure on oats? Would it be more town or scum motivated to do everything he did?


this is a pretty weird chain of events by the way, incredibly simplified and surface level!

First of all you scum read him because when he played scum he did the exact same thing and then suddenly when the topic is pushed aside your read flips and his frustration is real (despite making your skin crawl originally) so much so that you overlook all the inconsistencies.



Maybe so but the game is still young and reads have an ability to grow or become nonexistent. Oats overreacting still makes me feel weird, and him joking around about claiming flies in the face of what he acted like in the last mafia game I played with him when he fought really hard and called me an idiot for even suggesting it so yes it would naturally make my skin crawl.

Frustration can be real as scum or as town, I do not know Oats alignment yet or have much to work off of yet and i'm bad at reading Oats. I just realize that when people get frustrated they bluster and have inconsistencies in how they type or react to it. Townies lie and can be just as inconsistant but yes oats is still on the weird side for me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 06 2014 22:19 GMT
#318
Of course HF thats what I like to do early, I ask questions guage how people react to them and answer them and put them into my reads later. I don't bust stuff out super fast I have to build up to it unless I know someone well sadly.

And besides you still never answered my question why you never voted for oats even after pushing him so hard.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 22:19 GMT
#319
Damdred what do you think of KSC's attack on BH?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 06 2014 22:21 GMT
#320
On October 07 2014 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Of course HF thats what I like to do early, I ask questions guage how people react to them and answer them and put them into my reads later. I don't bust stuff out super fast I have to build up to it unless I know someone well sadly.

And besides you still never answered my question why you never voted for oats even after pushing him so hard.


because he left and i have no new info, originally i didn't know there was a voting thread and then when i found out i acted like it was just a pressure vote in thread
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