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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 20:15 GMT
#281
On October 07 2014 05:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 04:59 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2014 04:52 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Lian are you a smurf?

BH wants to follow RNG but he will do what he can to convince other people to vote for OO. He doesn't care if people lynch OO for other reasons aside from RNG as long as it's OO that is lynched.

BH you said you don't have an opinion on Oats post's. Do you have an opinion on HF's posts attacking Oat's posts?


Would there be any difference if I were a smurf or not? I think I told the mod what I am.

Not particularly but I like trying to guess smurfs Your first post is a post I don't see a new player making.


I am from somewhere else. So in a way I am new but not new. Take what you will. So guess the smurf game is over.

How should a new player post?

Hi i am new here lets be friends?

No they would put a lot of thought into whether they should claim.


I guess so to whoever is new to mafia it would be true. But really is there anything but town you can claim. You cant claim seer for obvious reasons
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#282
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#283
I didn't ask that at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:41 GMT
#284
On October 07 2014 05:04 KelsierSC wrote:
HF what do you make of this RNG play from BH?

Do you think OO is a good lynch?


null

possibly
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 06 2014 20:44 GMT
#285
On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically


I smell fish
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 20:49 GMT
#286
On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically


Also what? That's completely different to what everyone else has said as well. Why does sticking to his reasoning being a joke make him scummy, what if he was towny and made it as a joke what else would he do?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
October 06 2014 21:23 GMT
#287
I thought this was meant to start monday night.

I'm playing dota, I'll catch up tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 21:25 GMT
#288
Lol there's 10 pages Palmar...
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 06 2014 21:25 GMT
#289
I want to destroy BH's rng with the maths but bolded makes it impossible:

On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.



Are you denying the underlying math of RNG? Look dude there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG. Now, this isn't a very good ratio, I understand. Often, town can beat it for D1 lynches. But unless you put together a better case, the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone.

On top of that, once I've RNGed someone, I tunnel them until they are lynched. This is pretty much historically accurate. OO has accepted his fate, which makes me think he is scum (town is usually super outraged when they get RNGed). I've updated the odds of OO flipping scum to be much higher as a result.

That being said, I am willing to change vote if you guys can offer something better, but things like "someone was yelling in all caps" or whatever other baloney is going on doesn't even come close to matching up with RNG in terms of usefulness as a heuristic.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
October 06 2014 21:27 GMT
#290
On October 07 2014 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol there's 10 pages Palmar...

That's 10 more pages than I cba reading
Computer says mafia
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:46 GMT
#291
So I'm about to go to bed and want to give my thoughts on the day so far.

my initial reads are in my filer and have stayed pretty much the same although I'm more inclined to read hf as town considering he did point out the weird question by hela before i did and he read bh as null which i like rather than giving him a weird town pass.

two of my town have given bh a town pass and i cant understand the reason.

so to update on other people reading the storrzerg and lian interaction. Storrzerg reads like a town who wants to pressure someone who he hasn't played with and try and get a read on them, seems very towny to me
i dont know if lian is nervous or scummy but i haven't really liked him so far.

as for bh, his rng is not alignment indicative, but the fact is he dropped it in at a time when town was already discussing and pushing on people, who in thought could be scummy. And his counter offer to a productive discussion was a random person. Disrupting town and then trying to act superior just feels really scummy to me..

also I'm confused why he thinks oats is a good lunch, because it favours rng and he is inactive. So a bad reason and a dactually incorrect reason. I cant quote st the moment on my phone but it is in there.

i still dont like hela i didn't like his weird question and when people started discussing him was around the time bh decided to reveal his flawless methodology and deflect town.

summary.
town - bats,grack,store,ala,oats,

scum -bh,hela,

null - hf,dama, lian, oo,
Zerg for Life
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
October 06 2014 21:47 GMT
#292
"bh thinks oats is a good lynch"

????
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:48 GMT
#293
On October 07 2014 01:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch Oats because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=ObviousOne

Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2014 21:53 GMT
#294
who is hela?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 21:53 GMT
#295
A mistake post kelsier. He had not read the whole game and was unaware the O names were different.

Read BH filter it will become clear.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
October 06 2014 21:55 GMT
#296
On October 07 2014 06:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch Oats because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=ObviousOne



OK, at this point you're being wilfully obtuse! OK, I'll explain.. First off, read that filter. It's the filter of OO. Also, I am referring to someone who is RNGed, and the only person who is RNGed is OO. Lastly, in literally the next post, I say "oops, I meant to write OO there, not Oats". It's blindingly obvious that I meant OO, not Oats.

If you're going to attack me, at least pretend to understand my filter. Amazingly, your inability to decipher my writing reaffirms my townread on you. Scum wouldn't make such a silly mistake.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=11#204
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#297
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason
Zerg for Life
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#298
Mistake, mistake and mistake- upon our way to victory!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 06 2014 21:58 GMT
#299
On October 07 2014 06:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Mistake, mistake and mistake- upon our way to victory!!!

that's how you win the Chupazi way
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:59 GMT
#300
You haven't responds to my main reasons why you ate scun.

you can town read me if you want I don't really read into it as you probably just flipped a coin
Zerg for Life
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