EPT2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er - Page 26
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SkyDragon
United Kingdom142 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 26 2014 10:08 SkyDragon wrote: Of course I was. You guys play differently to what I'm used to. Hell, pushing someone to prove that they're not scum like what happened to you wouldn't have resulted in your opponent deflecting it and insisting that I prove to myself that you're not scum. Like what? Who says that? Lol. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but I say all kinds of stuff all the time. Even stuff that doesn't make sense. Sometimes I just want to see how people will react to the things I do. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 26 2014 10:08 SkyDragon wrote: Of course I was. You guys play differently to what I'm used to. Hell, pushing someone to prove that they're not scum like what happened to you wouldn't have resulted in your opponent deflecting it and insisting that I prove to myself that you're not scum. Like what? Who says that? Lol. You disregarded his entire case on GB that looked very long, don't you think he'd be a little infuriated that you started to throw accusations back at him without commenting on it at all? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote: I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that. So idk how other people play forum mafia. But when i play, i open the thread. ANd when i wanna make a longer post, i open a new tab. So i find it strange that he is "in the middle of a long post" and has failed to post it. He has asked for time, i went for a run, i backed off. Hell it shouldn't matter that i backed off, he decided to bicker with other people about nonsense. On September 26 2014 09:00 SkyDragon wrote: Nah, but seriously, just give me a moment. I'll respond to you, Storr. On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote: I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore. So then it won't be a problem for you to explain why you had me as scum. Detailed. Then explain why you think i'm town now. What changed, what happened. On September 26 2014 09:30 SkyDragon wrote: That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that - He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post - He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post - He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage From this it doesn't really appear he has given up his read. He claims i've gone less aggressive and thats why i'm "town" now what the hell? 1st yes i'm confirmed town. 2. If you never point a finger, you never lynch scum 3. i called haru town for similar reasons as obi. why are you not harping on both cases? Overall it doesn't appear that he really has changed his mind. On September 26 2014 09:33 SkyDragon wrote: I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations. So again he still casting doubt on me. Yet unwilling to actually go deeper. On September 26 2014 09:12 SkyDragon wrote: @Superbia - What you said is a non-issue to me. Storr was most suspicious to me anyway, and ObiWan became suspicious once Storr said that he's probably Town. I added Hopeless as third most suspicious before your comment about my read on Hopeless so it doesn't mean anything. I was going to call out Bats once Storr said to push someone but then he decided to make an appearance so I didn't have to. See its odd he wanted to call out bats. When i said he should push someone. I don't understand why he wants to push a new person, when he all ready has 3 "scum reads" that he hasn't pushed. again this was "going to call out bats" so i have to ask why was bats more important to pressure over your 3 scum reads? Note timeline wise, it seems very strange, he still considered me his top scum when he was about to pressure an "afk" batsnacks. #shovel time | ||
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SkyDragon
United Kingdom142 Posts
Bats made an unexpected appearance but the original three names that I stated were the people I wanted a confrontation with had he not decided to comment. Doesn't matter much now anyway. All I know is that I'm going to stay quiet from next game, whether I'm Town or Mafia. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 26 2014 10:32 SkyDragon wrote: All I know is that I'm going to stay quiet from next game, whether I'm Town or Mafia. Will you stay quiet next game as town or mafia? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 26 2014 10:32 SkyDragon wrote: I do the same thing as well whereby you want to see the reaction that something generates. It's the way I play as well but it seems to have blown all out of proportion because people haven't given time for things to calm down and allow the real motives to become clear. My intention was to remove the lynch vote from Bats (It wasn't a serious vote) after a while if he hadn't cracked or anything but people have already prematurely assumed that I'm weirdly just all over the place and that I must be scum. Bats made an unexpected appearance but the original three names that I stated were the people I wanted a confrontation with had he not decided to comment. Doesn't matter much now anyway. All I know is that I'm going to stay quiet from next game, whether I'm Town or Mafia. The thing about team liquid is that until people know you then trickery and hidden motives like you are claiming to be doing (with fake votes etc for pressure) just look disingenuous and like you're trying to throw suspicion on people until it sticks and you can get a mislynch. It is far far far better at this stage of the game for you to be honest and open and point out things you dislike rather than try and work things out like you are implying you are doing. Also, you stated that you had a case on storr but dropped it for batsnacks voting. Now we know that your vote on batsnacks wasn't really a real one was your "case" on storr also a lie? If so then why on earth did you not post it in favour of chasing up some silly pressure vote? | ||
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SkyDragon
United Kingdom142 Posts
Yeah, I think that's the problem and that's what I've been saying for a while now whereby I'm at a disadvantage. When you play with a group of people for a length of time, you get used to the way they play. I've never played with you guys, and you've never played with me. Hence, your playing styles feel alien to me and my one looks odd to you. I guess I shouldn't have taken such a large step forward at this stage but what's done is done. "It is far far far better at this stage of the game for you to be honest and open and point out things you dislike rather than try and work things out like you are implying you are doing." I'll keep that in mind. "If so then why on earth did you not post it in favour of chasing up some silly pressure vote?" Because Bats implied I was scum using a quote that was a response to a question that didn't really have anything to do with the game. I decided to go on the offensive, lol. He doesn't talk much anyway so I thought I'd grill him a little. I'm going to take Storr's advice and go to sleep (3am here in the UK). I've been sitting here for hours now.. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
Something HF noted, the game feels so slow. I agree with that sentiment, but I am not sure if its because mafia are paralyzed or because we're so desperately on the wrong track. There is no conclusion here, just something to consider. I like Killing's idea of a town circle. Do not necessarily like Killing in that town circle  . Off a gut check I actually have no problem with his townlist.I know I said the same thing last night, but I'm moving into my apartment tonight, so my activity is pretty shitty. I may not get home in time for deadline and cell reception is spotty. For the time being, GB is still my top scumread, voting him. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
What makes you think Killing is not town? I may actually agree with you, despite his lack of posts. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On September 26 2014 11:26 Fecalfeast wrote: I agree maybe we should back off skydragon, let him try and dig his way out of the hole before we throw more dirt on him. What makes you think Killing is not town? I may actually agree with you, despite his lack of posts. Only that he brought up the town circle and should be under the most scrutiny for it. The was there to convey that I didnt have any substantial reason to call him scum. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On September 26 2014 11:32 Fecalfeast wrote: I was upset that his first post was a list of people. List posts bug me for some reason. Still, not enough to go on yet. some people play like that and I'm not inclined to check if thats killing's style. I've seen it from both factions, but the reason I dont think he's scum (yet) is that he had strong scumreads that would force him to take a stand and justify himself later on. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On September 26 2014 11:37 Hopeless1der wrote: some people play like that and I'm not inclined to check if thats killing's style. I've seen it from both factions, but the reason I dont think he's scum (yet) is that he had strong scumreads that would force him to take a stand and justify himself later on. Wishy-washy, much? | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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