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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 26 2014 00:45 GMT
#481
On September 26 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
I like batsnacks like 10x more now and I DO agree with his case. However, with the reaction skydragon started displaying right after i'm getting the unflipped association that sky might be mafia and gb town


Oh, really?
I thought that it was because you can't see me in your scum qt lol silly me
I'm adorable.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 26 2014 00:45 GMT
#482
On September 26 2014 09:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I approve of FF's post.

The one question I have: what does SkyDragon gain by suddenly distancing himself away from his main scumread for little to no reason?

I honestly think it's because storr started to raise questions about sky and direct questions toward him so he backed off. Obviously he wouldn't say that, so he has to find someone to latch onto. I think it may be more of a retreat than a strategy
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 00:45 GMT
#483
On September 26 2014 09:21 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote:
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore.


Could we both be mafia? How likely?


Reasonably likely. This is why I hate Day 1 - It's all just words to work off of. Different people use different cues when determining whether someone looks suspicious. A person may look suspicious to one person, but look Town to another. Until Day 2 arrives, it's mostly just guesswork that could all be wrong because everyone has a different playing style.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 26 2014 00:46 GMT
#484
uh about to go and run but. I'm pretty sure thats like 2x now skydragons has said "he was in the middle of a post about X person (batsnakes, and myself) and has failed to produce.

maybe im missing something ill check when im back
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 26 2014 00:46 GMT
#485
Excuse the newb question but generally speaking how often does town get lynched D1?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 26 2014 00:50 GMT
#486
On September 26 2014 09:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Excuse the newb question but generally speaking how often does town get lynched D1?


the last time that it was checked in the database (excluding newbies) it was like a high 40+% chance to lynch mafia day 1
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 26 2014 00:50 GMT
#487
Mafia players are lynched 25.3% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.3% of the time.
Mafia players are lynched only 16.1% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 27.6%!
I'm adorable.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 26 2014 00:51 GMT
#488
Pretty good scumhunters around here, wow.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 26 2014 00:51 GMT
#489
Those are different numbers
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 26 2014 00:51 GMT
#490
the one I said (40%+) is for the games at the start of this year, gb's numbers are all time
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
September 26 2014 00:52 GMT
#491
On September 26 2014 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Those are different numbers


No don't think about it.
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 26 2014 00:54 GMT
#492
Holyflower, who's scum?
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 26 2014 00:54 GMT
#493
Sky, why did you dismiss the entirety of batsnacks case and instead vote him when 2 or 3 players have expressed that they actually like his case? Disregarding the bit about the 3rd person thing.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 26 2014 00:57 GMT
#494
I think this will answer a couple of questions people have had for me. I feel as strongly right now that Skydragon is mafia as I do about GB being mafia. Look at this recent post:

On September 26 2014 09:45 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:21 batsnacks wrote:
On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote:
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore.


Could we both be mafia? How likely?


Reasonably likely. This is why I hate Day 1 - It's all just words to work off of. Different people use different cues when determining whether someone looks suspicious. A person may look suspicious to one person, but look Town to another. Until Day 2 arrives, it's mostly just guesswork that could all be wrong because everyone has a different playing style.


More of the same generic policy talk that I originally scum read him for in this post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2014 01:07 SkyDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK.


"His" is correct. :p

d1 claimers got lynched depending on what they were saying.

- If they claimed to be Town with nothing to back it up, they were seen as suspicious and people would vote to lynch them if their play-style doesn't match.
- Throwing out names on the first day was seen as suspicious.
- Feigning ignorance of a particular role was suspicious unless he weren't very bright in the first place (As one guy did when he asked the Mod in the thread whether getting no pm means that you're a Villager - We straight away knew that he was trying it, lynched him and he turned out to be Mafia)
- Changing votes repeatedly was seen as suspicious.
- Normally active players who become quiet were seen as suspicious.

There's no one answer to fit all situations really. There were also power roles so someone may have been saying something considered "weird" because they were the Seer, Doctor, Vigi or some other good role (And the last thing you want to do is get them lynched). There would be some hesitation to vote to lynch anyone on Day 1 but sometimes something is said that just doesn't feel right to several people.


Also there's now this:

On September 26 2014 09:33 SkyDragon wrote:
I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations.


I have responded diligently to every post skydragon has sent my way. None of skydragon's posts have been formal accusations. It's always some bs about how I'm "deflecting" something. I'm not deflecting anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 26 2014 00:58 GMT
#495
On September 26 2014 08:23 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.

Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.

I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work)


Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information?

Lol...

HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me.


This post basically said exactly what I was thinking at the time.


I had to come back to this because Fecal actually said this thing first so hopeless has basically just copied the same sentiment. Hopeless COULD be scum at this present time but for now he's pretty null because of it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 26 2014 00:59 GMT
#496
On September 26 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflower, who's scum?


TBD
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 26 2014 01:03 GMT
#497
On September 26 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflower, who's scum?


TBD


Come on man, spill the beans. You have to have some half-baked reads
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
SkyDragon
Profile Joined September 2014
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 26 2014 01:04 GMT
#498
Well, all I can say is that I'm a Villager. Believe me or not, it doesn't matter. I was at a disadvantage from the start because the ww game culture around here is vastly different to what I'm used to.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 26 2014 01:05 GMT
#499
On September 26 2014 10:04 SkyDragon wrote:
Well, all I can say is that I'm a Villager. Believe me or not, it doesn't matter. I was at a disadvantage from the start because the ww game culture around here is vastly different to what I'm used to.


You can say a LOT more than that. And it DOES matter. You WEREN'T at a disadvantage from the start.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 01:07 GMT
#500
On September 26 2014 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
On September 26 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflower, who's scum?


TBD


Come on man, spill the beans. You have to have some half-baked reads


Rofl, regardless of alignment, FF is entertaining.
Minimal effort.
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