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Hapahauli
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geript
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On September 25 2014 09:35 Hapahauli wrote: Yamato and geript, talk to me about grack. Why is he town? 1. Look at how he's approaching the game. Him independently wanting to look for the mafia/mafia group is slightly towny. Plus he stood up to you when you crowed at him. I don't think mafia would be as sure of themselves there to do that. 2. The "maybe pairs are by sign up thing" You guys aren't going to like it but I think it's a reasonable 3. He's partners with Kush. I personally have no feelings about Kush either way, I think we both tend to prefer not to play games with each other (him because I'm an asshat and me because I hate lurkers). But both DP and Prome and I think Yam too maybe townreading Kush makes me want to look elsewhere. Plus. On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote: I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me. This is a post I didn't terribly like but I can see a less aggressive player going that way and I've seen lots of less good/experienced players do this as town. On September 24 2014 13:26 Grackaroni wrote: I'm a bit confused about this. The first quote seems to imply that CR might be mafia right? I liked this post too. It was something that I had missed and made me think seriously about my partner. Lastly, for some reason I remember someone saying he was really easy to catch as scum. | ||
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geript
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
##unvote ##vote: oatsmaster | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 25 2014 09:59 geript wrote: Yo Hapa, explain to me why you were so keen on Abuse not being shot or lynched as a test to your alignment? I'm not? I just don't think he's mafia. Do you have any reasons to think he's mafia? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:08 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not? I just don't think he's mafia. Do you have any reasons to think he's mafia? I don't have any reason to think he's town. And you've been exceptionally scummy at points and weird and odd and defended him for imo exceptionally bad reasons. All of those lead to me thinking a flip on him is exceptionally valuable information. | ||
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geript
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:13 geript wrote: lol I do find it a bit funny that we're both kinda just ignoring Vayne right now. Sort of. I just need to re-read. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Just for arguments sake, if we lynch MM and he flips red should we flip you to? If abuse flips green does that make hapa scummy or town? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:39 Damdred wrote: I think geript at this point I'm just vastly disagreeing with your method of scum hunting. I really do not like lets flip one person at this stage and get to the other if we can pin down two scummy people that's fine. Just for arguments sake, if we lynch MM and he flips red should we flip you to? If abuse flips green does that make hapa scummy or town? I think Prome covered this quite well. A red flip means that we should treat the partner as if they've been red checked by a cop with the recognition that a framer is in the game. FWIW, I think a green/blue flip should approximately equal a green check with recognition that a framer is in the game. So to answer your question, if MM flips mafia, which I doubt will happen, then it's perfectly fine to more heavily scrutinize my play. I don't think that a red flip automatically means we should flip the other person. Specifically what I'm saying is I have zero reason to think either you or Oats are town and I have a bunch of town reads. Flipping either of you makes perfect sense. Flipping Abuse makes reasonable sense as well as I think it reveals far more about Hapa's alignment than most anything else. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On September 25 2014 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote: so anytime people want to get serious about lynching oats I think we are ready to go down that road ##unvote ##vote: oatsmaster You must have a pretty strong read to want to vote Oats over CR. Why Oats? | ||
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Grackaroni
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
So is hapa. I have done pretty much nothing. Geript calling me scum is bad. His reasons are bad. On September 25 2014 09:04 geript wrote: And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd. I mean, I have like one fucking push dude. I have not posted anything following that push. This read is just really lazy. My scum play is more about agreeing with the best lynch or calling my scumbuddy 100% town. Im not doing that at all this game. Yeah ok prome might just be scum but we lynch geript first. vayne's vote on me is also bad. He votes like we have an ongoing vendetta but he seemed mroe interested in C earlier ##vote Geript | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On September 25 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Prome calling me town is really weird. So is hapa. I have done pretty much nothing. Geript calling me scum is bad. His reasons are bad. I mean, I have like one fucking push dude. I have not posted anything following that push. This read is just really lazy. My scum play is more about agreeing with the best lynch or calling my scumbuddy 100% town. Im not doing that at all this game. Yeah ok prome might just be scum but we lynch geript first. vayne's vote on me is also bad. He votes like we have an ongoing vendetta but he seemed mroe interested in C earlier ##vote Geript I've given less reasons than anyone for voting you. How does that make you feel about me? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 24 2014 16:00 Grackaroni wrote: nah there's still the Oats/Damdred group left out ##Vote: Oatsmaster I mentioned this post earlier. You never explained. Duuuuude. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
geript didnt give up his tunnel. He still can die. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On September 24 2014 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Possibly. Doesnt mean its wrong. I noticed that you totally tiptoed around your hapa read, why? Also, why is hapa's case bad but then you agree with one of his points? On September 24 2014 22:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey those cases were good ok, im insulted. Why are they bad specifically? I redid hapa's case on geript and then made some points about your chainsaw and misunderstanding of a joke. Which is clearly a scumtell. TELL ME HOW IS TAKING A JOKE TOO SERIOUSLY NOT A SCUMTELL??? To be clear did you like the cases you wrote on Geript/DP? The first quote isn't something I'd expect to see from your town play. Normally when someone disagrees with your rather unique reasoning you get really loud and in your face. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 25 2014 11:23 geript wrote: @Hapa/Yam/VE/Prom What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue. This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. | ||
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