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On September 25 2014 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Um... I just explained it?
Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer.
And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd.
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On September 25 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
And i'm quite tired of Geript just throwing me and Oats out there their are plenty of other pairings that aren't clearly TOWN, so yea. Either explain or die Geript, like i've asked you to for like 50 billion times.
I've explained it. Read my fucking filter. Perhaps you should use your brain cells for once. How many games in a row now have you *thought* that I was mafia and I was town? This is a big boy game so take off the pull ups and put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap.
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I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game.
I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters.
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Hm interesting.
Your read on me seems to ebb and flow with how much I read you as mafia.
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Last bit was @ geript.
@ MM:
On September 25 2014 09:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game.
I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters.
WEll you realize this is fairly incomplete logic on both players right?
So why are you scumreading Damdred? And as for Oats, is that what he did in cell? Just call two people mafia over and over again? Is that different from his town-play?
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On September 25 2014 09:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
And i'm quite tired of Geript just throwing me and Oats out there their are plenty of other pairings that aren't clearly TOWN, so yea. Either explain or die Geript, like i've asked you to for like 50 billion times. I've explained it. Read my fucking filter. Perhaps you should use your brain cells for once. How many games in a row now have you *thought* that I was mafia and I was town? This is a big boy game so take off the pull ups and put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap.
You aren't explaining shit though, just damdred and oats are scummy you aren't pulling anything from the game just repeating things over and over again without any direct evidence or any thought in it. There are other pairings that might not be town looking either, but you won't look at them its either damdred/oats or hapa/abuse with mine first. You don't get the problem with this?
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On September 25 2014 09:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game.
I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters.
What new information about dp do I have for instance?
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On September 25 2014 09:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Hm interesting.
Your read on me seems to ebb and flow with how much I read you as mafia.
Yah, because I don't think that town Hapa could possibly be dense enough to even consider me being mafia right now.
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Oats only called people mafia like once. While i've only played one game with oats, when he was mafia, i kind of forgot he was even in the game until later on.
Damdred hasn't taken anything into account, and i felt that he only posted his thoughts on DP in a way that he was trying to push a mislynch.
It also seems super scummy that both players would talk about why one person would be scum in a qt.
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I think that if you really felt DP was scum you would have posted it here in the thread, and not talk about why DP is scum with your QT mate, if you dont know the alignment of your cell partner unless you strongly feel that oats is town?
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On September 25 2014 09:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Oats only called people mafia like once. While i've only played one game with oats, when he was mafia, i kind of forgot he was even in the game until later on.
Ok so just general inactivity.
Damdred hasn't taken anything into account, and i felt that he only posted his thoughts on DP in a way that he was trying to push a mislynch.
In what way? You make a lot of these general statements but fail to explain them until I pull them out of you.
It also seems super scummy that both players would talk about why one person would be scum in a qt.
Why?
What have you and geript talked about in your QT?
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On September 25 2014 09:10 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 09:06 geript wrote:On September 25 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
And i'm quite tired of Geript just throwing me and Oats out there their are plenty of other pairings that aren't clearly TOWN, so yea. Either explain or die Geript, like i've asked you to for like 50 billion times. I've explained it. Read my fucking filter. Perhaps you should use your brain cells for once. How many games in a row now have you *thought* that I was mafia and I was town? This is a big boy game so take off the pull ups and put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap. You aren't explaining shit though, just damdred and oats are scummy you aren't pulling anything from the game just repeating things over and over again without any direct evidence or any thought in it. There are other pairings that might not be town looking either, but you won't look at them its either damdred/oats or hapa/abuse with mine first. You don't get the problem with this?
1 VE is paired with CR. That pair is likely to be Town/3P or Mafia/3P. Highly unlikely to be Mafia/Mafia
2 Prom/Yam. Both are likely to be town here imo. I think it's pretty obvious but if one were mafia it's likely Yam.
3 DP/Vayn. I'm pretty sure DP is town. I explained it last night. Vayn I would be happy to lynch because I have no fucking clue how to read him and he hasn't posted a whole bunch to read him off of either. Either way, not likley to be Mafia/mafia.
4 Me/MM. I'm town. I'm thinking MM is town. So there's no point in looking into this D1.
5 Abuse/Hapa. Abuse has done nothing and honestly is a decent policy lynch. Hapa's been very towny and very scummy. I really don't in any way understand his thought process behind relying so heavily on tone reads. Learning how to do it, fine. Putting it into practice fine. Doing so while not equally making good pushes against people for logical reasons that actually carry weight... very bad. If there's a mafia/mafia pair in the vets, this is most likely it.
6 Grak/Kush. Prom and DP, who I think are town, both have a townread on Kush. I have a pretty solid townread on grack. I'm pretty sure this is a town/town group.
7 Damdred/Oats. As I see it, the mafia/mafia pair is either you and oats or Hapa and abuse. Neither you nor Oats have done anything that I find to be particularly towny. I'm not good at actually reading your alignment so PoE is a quite beneficial way for me to narrow shit down.
Use your head. I already explained this.
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geript mentioned pairings, and one or two weak town reads, i talked about CR's claim which i had posted in the thread, and then one post for VE/Hapa
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Also I'm going to go ahead and say this. If anyone direct quotes or asks for direct quotes for a QT, I'm going to lobby for them getting modkilled with no flip. That is 100% cheating in this game.
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well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted
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If i think VE is mafia alone and i have a scum read on Oats, then i'm probably biased and would lynch damdred
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On September 25 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted
Hah. In a way yes.
It's hard not to see his stuff as genuine.
I liked this quite a bit:
5 Abuse/Hapa. Abuse has done nothing and honestly is a decent policy lynch. Hapa's been very towny and very scummy. I really don't in any way understand his thought process behind relying so heavily on tone reads. Learning how to do it, fine. Putting it into practice fine. Doing so while not equally making good pushes against people for logical reasons that actually carry weight... very bad. If there's a mafia/mafia pair in the vets, this is most likely it.
I guess I have been talked out of it once more.
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Also for the record, I really don't like how I feel Hapa has protected Abuse to some extent. It's not direct but I feel like he's tried to shield Abuse from people looking at him. If Hapa were mafia, he would know two things: 1 that he has to keep up his activity and 2 that his weakest link (assuming he's the mafia/mafia pair) is Abuse. Abuse flipping red would be a huge blow to scumHapa.
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On September 25 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted
wtf are you talking about? I'm very serious about lynching Hapa right now.
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