TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition
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On September 12 2014 16:26 Fecalfeast wrote: Well, I have quite a bit of downtime every day and a computer. If it's truly that overwhelming for a new person to play a regular TL game I will wait for a newbie game to open up. I have read through a few threads and continue to do so; I think I have a basic idea of the flow of a game and would definitely benefit from /obs for learning. Just join this game it needs people. I got your back. | ||
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Why did you take the iron anvil up into a tree? That tree was designated to be chopped down. Our woodcutter is dead now. Do you know how he died? An iron anvil came crashing down into his skull, shattering the bone through his -Cat Leather Helmet-. In the future please be more careful about where you leave our anvils. Sincerely, The Overseer | ||
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On September 14 2014 09:06 scott31337 wrote: /obs I like reading the games and maybe I can learn some more. You should /in | ||
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On September 15 2014 07:30 GlowingBear wrote: Lol wtf is going on in this game You know, if you were in a giving mood, you could quote the last game you came out of the gates spamming caps. | ||
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On September 15 2014 07:39 GlowingBear wrote: I don't have one, I believe. I usually came to the thread voting at random, but people were calling me scum for that, so I stopped doing that. Why does it matter, anyway? Well, it matters because bolded makes this game special for you. What is more likely, that a game is special because the player is mafia or because the player is town? Rolling mafia is less likely than rolling town. "Special" does mean less likely. | ||
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On September 15 2014 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: It's more likely that entrances means nothing regarding alignments. You know what can tell alignment? Picking on little things like you're doing. ##Vote: Batsnacks You mean, like your vote just now? I'm just asking questions. | ||
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On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know. ##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. | ||
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However, marv is over 50% of koshi's total awarded town points. If you remove marv from the equation koshi has issued 1.75 times as many scum points as town points. And my conclusion is that he is townie. | ||
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On September 15 2014 18:19 Palmar wrote: Lynching a smurf is always good though. On September 15 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote: Because policy lynches are dumb. I didn't really think that much about those two posts, the sarcasm was consistent with a few other of his early posts. But then he posted these two: On September 16 2014 05:21 Palmar wrote: i am always serious. Everything I've said this game should be taken seriously. On September 16 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote: We must make your post retroactively true. I am mafia. Claiming mafia sarcastically is still claiming mafia. Also that was two consecutive posts. That's pretty much like claiming mafia two posts in a row. | ||
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That's in order, robik, VE, marv, jat. I'm going to vote Palmar because he claimed mafia twice. Then I'm going to go get beer and start looking at what GlowingBear has been up to. ##vote: Palmar | ||
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Those bottom two quotes were one right after the other. In one post he says we should take everything he says seriously, in the next post he claims mafia. That's like claiming mafia twice imo. | ||
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On September 16 2014 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: That would have been helpful, I am asking them respectively. VE made a few comments earlier about how people were ignoring me and they shouldn't be. Then he probably voted me because he got tired and didn't want to wait up for me. | ||
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You guys were all like "read a guide," "play a newbie game," etc. | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:00 Fecalfeast wrote: half the reason I invested in my own shop was so I could be stoned at work and spend all my down time on a computer. Living the dream. batsnacks I guess you aren't worried about him gaining any traction, since you don't seem too upset about being voted. I follow your logic on palmar and you even typed that you voted for him but you didn't post in the voting thread. He hasn't given reasons yet other than "people shouldn't be ignoring me" so there's not much I can do about his vote other than keep doing what I would be doing anyway. And I forgot about the voting thread, again. | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:01 Chairman Ray wrote: I don't read it as Palmer claiming he's mafia. I read it as Palmer saying he never claimed mafia in a condescending way. He literally said "I am mafia." He could have been condescending without saying "I am mafia." | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:10 Chairman Ray wrote: So if Palmer worded it in another way, you would feel differently about him? You mean like, if he said "Mafia, I am" instead of "I am mafia"? No I'd feel exactly the same even if he changed the words. | ||
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That might be a little too optimistic of you. Are you trying to ask me if Palmer had said something completely different from what I voted him for, would I still be voting him? How am I supposed to answer that? | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:27 Hopeless1der wrote: CR what do you expect to happen with your vote on tolkein? Seems pretty futile to me. What if I did this: ##unvote ##vote: Lord Tolkien | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:33 Hopeless1der wrote: cool story bro. devil's advocate aside, my question still stands. Because you think tolkien won't get lynched? He has like 2 posts 50% of which are definitely not pc. Completely disregarding everything about CR except his vote, I do not understand why you think the vote is futile. | ||
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On September 16 2014 11:56 Hopeless1der wrote: I dont care who you vote for, I just want to feel like theres some value added instead of the "oh i has a vote" *plop* feeling I have right now. I'm looking at Damdred right now and I think that's what he thinks you did with your vote on Palmar. And I think that I think what he thinks. You know what I'm saying? | ||
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On September 16 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote: Bats we have a connection right now, and I like that. I however do not like people blasting CR for a pressure vote when they just plop their votes on the lead wagon for reasons such as being to obtuse. I wonder if palmar wasn't the lead wagon if your votes would be their If Palmar had zero votes I still would have voted him for saying "I am mafia." | ||
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On September 16 2014 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm voting batsnacks because his first few posts looked blendy and scant and he'd provided nothing more. I see that he's provided some stuff. I will read said stuff and update my opinion on him soon. I beg your pardon? I started shit, serious shit, with my very first post. | ||
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On September 16 2014 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm voting batsnacks because his first few posts looked blendy and scant and he'd provided nothing more. I see that he's provided some stuff. I will read said stuff and update my opinion on him soon. VE pulling a Blizzard Entertainment. | ||
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On September 16 2014 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: It's pretty bad. @batsnacks What did you think about what Tolkein wrote shortly after your vote on him? It was sort of like he farted and everyone suddenly noticed he was there. | ||
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On September 17 2014 01:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that was like....I couldn't tell if srs or joking. And I don't know what it means with regard to his alignment. There's more to it than that. I tried to sum up my thoughts without boring you with the details. I see other people commenting that my play is different this game (damdred, holyflare, marv) as in I'm not doing anything crazy. First, being crazy every game isn't easy. Also, even though crazy works for me in figuring out who's mafia, no one believes me once I do figure things out, everyone just thinks I'm crazy. So I'm playing differently this game. Holyflare in particular is commenting about how my play is different from how I played as town in cell. I got a warning for how I behaved that game and I deserved it. Obviously I'm not going to act like that again. I'm voting Holyflare now because his vote on me is, at best, stupid. He should know better than anyone how bad I messed up in cell. Anyone who doesn't get it should go and read some of the stuff I said to him in that game. ##vote: Holyflare @Damdred are you mafia? Some of that stuff you said about my meta was really specific in a weird way. | ||
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On September 17 2014 04:26 ShiaoPi wrote: @batsnacks: your vote on holyflare currently is stupid as well, since there is no way he will get traction up to the needed votes. I do agree on the sentiment though Thanks? | ||
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On September 17 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote: WE ARE NOT LYNCHING THE PERSON WHO CLAIMED INSTANTLY A BLUE ROLE. SCUM DOESN'T DO THAT. BUT HE DIDN'T CLAIM BLUE | ||
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On September 17 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote: Yes, it is a powerrole even though the hosts decided to colour it green. Why yell at me to change my vote? Why didn't you yell at him? He is -also- solo voting. He even did it before me. | ||
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On September 17 2014 04:58 Damdred wrote: batty talk to me, will you help consolidate on kush fo rnow? It's starting to look that way. I have no intention of causing a no-lynch scenario. | ||
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On September 17 2014 05:20 Hopeless1der wrote: yep. good news, batsnacks can count. gj batsnacks you reached a majority. I don't know if I like the cut of your jib, after I've been keeping better track of koshi's point system better than he has. | ||
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You're 1 point off on HF. The rest you got right. Here | ||
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On September 18 2014 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I love how simplistic batsnacks' scumhunting heuristics are. Occam's razor | ||
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On September 18 2014 09:33 Lord Tolkien wrote: That's the other option. In which case id think he was being bussed for how loud about it he was. Bussed by who, rayn? | ||
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On September 18 2014 09:37 Lord Tolkien wrote: That would be my farfetched conclusion. That's a bigger leap than we need to make right now. Palmar is scummy regardless of rayn/geript's alignment. Day 1 he said he was mafia, night 2 he said we should vote for him today. So many of his posts are just like "you won't lynch me. you won't. I know you won't because you won't and I'm right." | ||
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On September 18 2014 09:37 Lord Tolkien wrote: Id have to review the early case on palmar though. You don't really need to, his posting has been pretty consistent all game. Palmar's posting this game: DO ( Under pressure? Defend and kiss ass. Not under pressure? Taunt town. ) WHILE (ALIVE) | ||
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On September 18 2014 12:09 GlowingBear wrote: Was koshi townread by everyone? He wasn't that townie to my eyes Here's the final koshi.csv + Show Spoiler + | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 18 2014 12:13 batsnacks wrote: [QUOTE]On September 18 2014 12:09 GlowingBear wrote: Was koshi townread by everyone? He wasn't that townie to my eyes[/QUOTE] Here's the final koshi.csv + Show Spoiler + [/QUOTE] Microsoft Excel | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:50 Holyflare wrote: 2 people claimed roleblock right? Haru and Robik I think | ||
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On September 19 2014 06:58 Holyflare wrote: are you going to do anything today? you only said me and palmar were the best lynches today which was totally unqualified seeing as i'm pretty much confirmed town and geript is pretty much super mafia which makes palmar more and more likely town I'm not feeling good today. What do you think I should do? | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote: explain your reads and why you are not voting geript I tried explaining why I think Palmar is mafia. I think you're mafia because of your vote on me late yesterday; you said I'm scummy because I'm playing differently from Cell when I was mod-warned for how I played in Cell. You just voted and left the thread. In a different universe, that could have cost us the lynch. We didn't reach a majority on kush until 1 hour before the deadline. A lot of the reason I am voting Palmar now is because he told us to vote for him today. I am prepared to switch to geript if/when my vote is needed. Right now I feel like it's doing more on Palmar. | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote: Right so not only am I a role that claimed straight away like I'm supposed to as said role but I'm not cc'd and you admit you played totally different to how you played in cell so thanks for agreeing with everything I said. Lots of people actually agreed with my sentiment to lynch you but inevitably didn't end up voting for you. Only VE really was onto you with me. When I was around and left that vote there was great sentiment to go onto you. I'm not sure how serious you are here and if it's missing a /s or not but what good is your vote actually doing??? Not only is palmar doing absolutely nothing right now which means your vote isn't doing anything but you admit that really you're just going to switch to geript at the end of the day anyway? Someone you've said nothing about and in fact expressed that you want to lynch palmar and not geript and have said nothing about how rayn and palmar interacted and what that might mean for their alignments. You haven't really talked about anything. I was never going to be lynched d1. VE said himself in his last post that he didn't actually have any good reason to scum read me, other than that I responded to his reason-less read on me. My vote is where I think it needs to be. I thought more people would be voting Palmar today. I commented on Palmar/rayn: On September 18 2014 09:39 batsnacks wrote: That's a bigger leap than we need to make right now. Palmar is scummy regardless of rayn/geript's alignment. Day 1 he said he was mafia, night 2 he said we should vote for him today. So many of his posts are just like "you won't lynch me. you won't. I know you won't because you won't and I'm right." | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:26 Holyflare wrote: the only alternative at the time was poofter (who is town) and was very likely going to be modkilled, so did I really hurt any chances there? You wasted your vote, and you voted me for reasons that are, at best, stupid. | ||
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Lets say geript gets lynched today, and he flips mafia. Does that make Palmar town? | ||
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If Palmar gets lynched today, and he flips town. Does that make greript mafia? and If geript gets lynched today, and he flips town. Does that make Palmar mafia? | ||
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If one of Palmar/geript gets lynched today and they flip town, what do we do about the other one? Who is so sure about one of them being mafia that if one of them flips town, they will vote the other the next day? | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:03 justanothertownie wrote: If we lynch one and he flips town we will reevaluate tomorrow. It does not mean we automatically lynch the other one. And this discussion is not relevant for our lynch today. So, that's one vote for "maybe." | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote: But I want YOU to talk about something else. You are the question mark. I am not. Like what? | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:34 justanothertownie wrote: Well, you could take a look into his filter and see if there is something to say maybe? It's not like he didn't say anything. And there is also rayns filter too. Why don't -you- take a look into his filter if you're not sure if there is something to say or not. Or I can save you the effort, it -is- a lot like he didn't say anything. The same could be said about rayn's filter. I can sum it up in one post: + Show Spoiler + On September 17 2014 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: PalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmarPalmar So why am I scummy jat? No one has been able to give a reason yet. Not VE, or HF, or you. | ||
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On September 19 2014 07:47 batsnacks wrote: Lets say Palmar gets lynched today, and he flips mafia. Does that make geript town? Lets say geript gets lynched today, and he flips mafia. Does that make Palmar town? On September 19 2014 07:52 batsnacks wrote: But we all agree that, theoretically, they can't both be mafia? I thought this implied that I thought one of them was mafia. Especially the fact that I'm voting Palmar. Why am I scummy jat? I'm getting really bored. | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:48 justanothertownie wrote: This implies you think geript might be town by association. That's not an opinion on his play which I requested. You are scummy because all you did this game regarding scumhunting is calling Palmar mafia for claiming mafia and OMGUSing HF. That is literally all you have done this game. And you said I was the one who wasn't reading. | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:53 Holyflare wrote: "holyflare is scum because he wasn't here and wasn't voting for someone getting modkilled despite being a claimed role" "palmar is scum because he said he was mafia" ^ summation of your entire filter "im busy sry" ^ summation of your entire filter | ||
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On September 19 2014 08:50 Damdred wrote: Hey batbaby do you think I'm town this game? Yes. Do you know why? Because you're not an asshole just to be an asshole. Which is why I think you're town every game. Which is also why I think FecalFeast is town. | ||
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On September 19 2014 09:04 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah, thats not helping anyone. And you look worse. Personal problems etc. | ||
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On September 19 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote: yes well i'm not the one under accusation here you just said that your filter has scum hunting in it when really there is none at all "no u" ^ summation of HF's post | ||
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On September 19 2014 21:36 Superbia wrote: Going to make some lunch, eat it. Then going to find some more scum to put on the to-lynch list. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On September 20 2014 05:12 IAmRobik wrote: geript isn't mad. He's not even in the game That's the point | ||
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Are you going to argue that geript was ACCIDENTALLY modkilled? | ||
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On September 21 2014 07:54 Tehpoofter wrote: Does today seem like a good "out of spite kill" day? Do you actually believe he is scum? Today does seem like a good out of spite kill day. That's why I voted him. | ||
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On September 21 2014 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote: Bats are you illiterate? Yamato tracked holyflare and he was seen doing terrible things. He just said he was roleblocked though? | ||
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On September 21 2014 18:18 ShiaoPi wrote: we lynch one of these today: HF, GB or LT maybe batsnacks as well. Currently much mroe in favor of a lynch on HF instead of GB. The only problem is that there is a (slight) possibility that yamato and HF are both town. Especially after reading through a lot of HFs posts in Day 2, when he finally did something. A bit indecisive here (and demotivated by the turn of the game) This is a weird post. HF is his number one lynch, but he says HF could be town because of d2? Why mention d2 at all? He's completely ignoring the hot topic, yamato allegedly tracking HF to jat d1. | ||
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On September 18 2014 08:29 ShiaoPi wrote: this game is actually pretty straightforward anyway On September 18 2014 08:41 ShiaoPi wrote: thats why I called it straightforward. Either town gets shit done today or we are done for. heh On September 19 2014 17:10 ShiaoPi wrote: never signing up for a game with robik again On September 19 2014 23:38 ShiaoPi wrote: cause that was the time I caught up to this trainwreck of a game and I had to state it somewhere for my own record. get your votes on geript guys On September 21 2014 05:23 ShiaoPi wrote: fuck this game so much.... I come back to the thread after a friday night out to this? ugh.... On September 21 2014 05:24 ShiaoPi wrote: super demotivated right now, will be back with a post before the deadline... On September 21 2014 18:18 ShiaoPi wrote: A bit indecisive here (and demotivated by the turn of the game) On September 21 2014 18:23 ShiaoPi wrote: no fucking reasons left to really want to play this trainwreck out So yeah ShiaoPi sure is demotivated. | ||
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On September 18 2014 08:29 ShiaoPi wrote: this game is actually pretty straightforward anyway On September 18 2014 08:41 ShiaoPi wrote: thats why I called it straightforward. Either town gets shit done today or we are done for. heh This game has only ever been straightforward for mafia. Ever since he posted that ShiaoPi has been running victory laps, pretending to be demoralized. Every post since that has been complaining about how doomed town is. | ||
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On September 22 2014 00:50 ShiaoPi wrote: go ahead lynch me, the earlier I am out of this game the better And then go on to complain about thread atmosphere. | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:15 Superbia wrote: I don't like this read bats, your earlier material was better. You've already said enough about Shiao (there is not much to read into anymore), care to give me some other opinions? You liked it a few minutes ago On September 22 2014 00:36 Superbia wrote: ShiaoPi: I like Batsnacks' read on him. Collects some towncreds d2 and then disappears. Says we need to make shit happen d2 and then doesn't do anything to contribute further. What was the point? This guy is such a huge fucking question mark. Don't know if I want to risk a lynch on him today, since he's essentially lurking. | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:20 Superbia wrote: I don't like that specific read in particular that you just gave. I feel like you've said what you could've about ShiaoPi already, and I like the reads you gave. Now he might just be a disgruntled townie, as he himself pointed out. Maybe give him a little bit of space so he can get some reads out? You liked what I said before, ShiaoPi reappears and does more of the same thing, and now you want me to leave him alone? Not following that but it's not a big deal anyway. Who do you want reads on? Even though I've read the entire thread I feel really hazy about the goings on d1 and d2. I think every read I've made based on the happenings of d1 and d2 was wrong. | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:36 Superbia wrote: ShiaoPi is almost the exact same as geript at this point. We kept on pushing on geript, and he pretty much ragequit. ShiaoPi has made it clear that he had some intention of skimming the thread and at least giving some reads. Now, regardless of alignment, if we keep pushing on him he will shut down and not do shit for the rest of the day. I'm not willing to lynch a question mark like that. Give him some space and let's see what he comes up with. Who else would you like to lynch today? What do you think about Fecalfeast? It doesn't work that way man. There is a reason geript got lynched for doing that. If ShiaoPi is mafia space is what he wants, and what he needs, because what he's doing helps scum, not town. This is the most critical stage of the game I can't leave someone alone because they are being scummy that doesn't make sense. I don't think Fecalfeast looks bad his play has been consistent, he's said some funny things, he's been great for thread atmosphere. He is the exact opposite of ShiaoPi. | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you guys are insistent on lynching Shiaopi, you're going to have to show why exactly his lack of motivation is inherently fake. Because it's all he's talked about for two days and before that he said that the game was "pretty straightforward." | ||
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On September 22 2014 01:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ...So? Props for getting me to respond. I should have known better in the first place. On September 22 2014 01:52 Superbia wrote: Maybe this is just my lack of experience/games, but out of all the ragequits and disgruntled people I've encountered that got killed for it, 0% flipped scum. If someone would back you up on this that'd be grand, but I'm not willing to lynch like this in mylo. I'd prefer to get a solid read and lynch off that. I also don't think we're going to get much by you tunneling more on ShiaoPi at this point. Is there anyone else you'd like to lynch? If ShiaoPi is scum, who do you think his team mates are? I don't have strong reads. It would be really easy for anyone to just give up like ShiaoPi is pretending to do. Like I said, pretty much everything I thought for more than two thirds of the game has been wrong. If I'm going to give more reads they would just be gut reads at this point and I feel that historically people hate my gut reads because I'm not very good at explaining them. | ||
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On September 22 2014 02:01 Superbia wrote: The possible motivation I see is the fact that geript did the exact same and flipped town and we won't risk something like that in mylo. Hence why we give him some room and see what he comes up with instead of having a question mark in the game. Everyone is a question mark. You can't just label ShiaoPi a "question mark" like that actually means something. | ||
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On September 22 2014 02:04 Superbia wrote: If you don't have strong reads why are you willing to start a lynch on someone in mylo? Wouldn't you rather leave it to confirmed town and people you feel are townie and try to get something out of interactions instead? No. I know I'm town, therefor I know my reads are automatically better than 33% of the people left in the game. If any town member holds back today it puts us at a massive disadvantage. | ||
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On September 22 2014 02:06 Superbia wrote: Is everyone a question mark or not? Why are you comfortable leading a lynch when you're not comfortable with your reads? There are 5 mafia vs 10 town. 5 mafia vs 10 town. I would wager most of our power roles are dead. Wrap your head around those numbers. | ||
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They're dead. | ||
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On September 22 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote: Including poofter? Explain to me your thought process. You come into today with apparently everyone being question marks. Then what? What happened to your Robik read? I never had a robik read I just voted him out of spite. You want to know the worst part about our dialog? You're probably getting town points for this. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:20 Superbia wrote: I had you man, but I thought you were towny for ragequitting. The "but" in that sentence means you didn't. | ||
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On September 23 2014 09:43 Hopeless1der wrote: Good news though. Scum technically didnot perfect game us! AND IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR YOU MEDDLING KIDS... AND YOUR DOG TOO I wanted that perfect game so bad. | ||
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