• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:08
CET 22:08
KST 06:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !2Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win1Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Employee Retention in Behavioral Health: Building Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1377 users

Season of the Witch Mafia

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Normal
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 02 2014 17:58 GMT
#33
/in
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 03 2014 16:21 GMT
#61
I would actually have a reason to read the thread as scum in this game, lolol.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 03 2014 22:38 GMT
#86
i demand a refund
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 00:06 GMT
#154
I don't like Koshi
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 00:46 GMT
#163
I still think Koshi is mafia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 20:16 GMT
#458
Come back, still see robik/geript spamming, I'm not interested in reading this
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#460
On September 04 2014 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

Not true.

Sloosh is just mucking about asking weirdass questions that still hasnt lead to anything.
How is him saying that nothing more can be discussed about setup and then encouraging discussion about setup a good thing???
Where am I cherry picking instead of not bothering to post irrelevant nonsense?

Show nested quote +

I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place.

Why is calling someone scum without reasoning objectively scummy? I explained it eventually.
Do you disagree with my read on Koshi?
gobble, what do you read someone like him?

as i slog through for readable posts, I find this gem

makes me feel good about sylencia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#462
On September 04 2014 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
It's not unusual for yamato to do that though

this gem

not the oats post

wtf im too tired
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 21:04 GMT
#469
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.

terrible post
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#471
sloosh, what are your reads on Koshi and Rayn?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 01:47 GMT
#497
So sloosh, I guess you're ignoring me?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 03:01 GMT
#501
geript, what are your reads on koshi rayn and sloosh
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 14:29 GMT
#567
Give me the grail so I can make the correct lynch when town derps later on. This lineup screams of derp.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 15:01 GMT
#572
Robik what do you think of rayn and sloosh?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 15:50 GMT
#579
Robik is disappointing me.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:01 GMT
#581
Geript what if I told you I'd support your robik is scum lynch if you threw your support behind my grail campaign?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:10 GMT
#584
If I told you that 2/3 of Koshi rayn and sloosh were scum would you believe me?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:17 GMT
#586
Koshi and rayn are pretty obvious. For two strong town players, they sure are sucking it up in the early game. Rayn called me town for no reason in his list post and has ignored interacting with me. Koshi called me a lurker and has done the same. Sloosh is scum because his play is too reserved and careful. As town he has bolder reads and better interaction with the thread.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:18 GMT
#587
Oh and gobble is town. So is sylencia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:27 GMT
#589
Robik is a nice warm place for my vote for now.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#592
Rayn you make me real sad.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 16:52 GMT
#605
hm

would town rayn be mad that I'm reading him incorrectly? I would think so.

hm

hm
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:00 GMT
#610
Rayn, your arguments about content are never good.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#615
I have a pretty amazing recent record too, rayn, no need to wag your ego around.

What I'm saying is, you're ignoring obvious town tells in syl's filter.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:15 GMT
#618
I quoted the post.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#620
It's a good observation. Mafia wouldn't make that observation.

All the new players think I'm an ultra-lurker so their statements mean nothing.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#622
On September 04 2014 21:17 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.


I'm amazed that you are null reading the person who has posted nothing but 'i think koshi is scum' and 'still think hes scum'.
I think it's very weird that yamato would bother to come in, make an unsubstantiated post, and then disappear. Clearly he had the time to post, but his effort doesn't show it.

To provide context.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:23 GMT
#623
On September 06 2014 02:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:20 yamato77 wrote:
It's a good observation. Mafia wouldn't make that observation.

All the new players think I'm an ultra-lurker so their statements mean nothing.

I think syl is town, but this is really fucking bad reasoning

lolrobik
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:32 GMT
#626
Gobble gives sylencia a reason to call me mafia. Sylencia, who has called me null, observes that the reason used to call me mafia is unsubstantiated by my previous play, despite how easy it is to just call me mafia. It's a good read, even if the conclusion is null.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 17:43 GMT
#631
On September 06 2014 02:35 geript wrote:
So do you care to explain your Rayn, Koshi, Sloosh trifecta?

I already did.

Rayn's recent posting is conflicting. He's being reasonable, which is good, but he's pushing sylencia, which is not.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 19:37 GMT
#655
Why do people want to lynch damdred?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 19:45 GMT
#657
He did post a lot more last game.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2014 19:54 GMT
#660
I won't be around until later tonight, so hold off on any instant majority shenannies until then.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 05:30 GMT
#710
gobble you are ruining this game
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 05:31 GMT
#711
that claim was so bad

you have to be town
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 05:42 GMT
#714
sylencia

give me something

I went out on a limb and called you town
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 05:44 GMT
#715
btw

just so this is clear

real martyr is NOT going to counterclaim if this is a fakeclaim
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 05:56 GMT
#720
On September 06 2014 14:46 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 13:47 geript wrote:
I'm going to assume he's bad town until there's a counter claim. The martyr should obviously counter here.


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 14:44 yamato77 wrote:
btw

just so this is clear

real martyr is NOT going to counterclaim if this is a fakeclaim



what gives

notice that the second quote is by me, and the first one is not

hmmmmmm
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 06:50 GMT
#726
On September 06 2014 15:37 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 14:56 yamato77 wrote:
On September 06 2014 14:46 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 06 2014 13:47 geript wrote:
I'm going to assume he's bad town until there's a counter claim. The martyr should obviously counter here.


On September 06 2014 14:44 yamato77 wrote:
btw

just so this is clear

real martyr is NOT going to counterclaim if this is a fakeclaim



what gives

notice that the second quote is by me, and the first one is not

hmmmmmm


I know.
I wanted to ask who is correct and who isn't.

On September 06 2014 14:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 14:46 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 06 2014 13:47 geript wrote:
I'm going to assume he's bad town until there's a counter claim. The martyr should obviously counter here.


On September 06 2014 14:44 yamato77 wrote:
btw

just so this is clear

real martyr is NOT going to counterclaim if this is a fakeclaim



what gives

notice that the second quote is by me, and the first one is not

hmmmmmm

Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 14:02 GMT
#741
so people

what's the plan
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 14:31 GMT
#752
damdred, you need to post a lot or you will die
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 14:42 GMT
#759
I really do want people to seriously consider giving it to me
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 15:42 GMT
#770
koshi you should vote for me
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 16:09 GMT
#791
so damdred

what do you think of rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 16:35 GMT
#801
let's kill rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 16:44 GMT
#804
robik vote for rayn

we're making big plays
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 17:03 GMT
#811
ritoky, throw your support behind my campaign and we'll lynch rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 17:28 GMT
#826
oats is town
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 17:57 GMT
#839
I want the grail for a reason, geript.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 18:29 GMT
#852
I'm seriously depressed at the level of play right now.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 18:37 GMT
#854
ritoky, you are wrong
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 18:40 GMT
#856
we're lynching rayn, sloosh, that's all you need to know
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 18:52 GMT
#859
On September 07 2014 03:46 slOosh wrote:
Hmm ... I can see myself being persuaded (since I have a couple of thoughts on it), but I'm curious if our reasons match up. Could you give me a brief synopsis as I work on catching up?

rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense

that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn

basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#867
not damdred

rayn

be men
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#868
i soulread damdred as town
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:40 GMT
#871
you owe me anyway robik

your play in the other game is a travesty
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:43 GMT
#873
fuckin shit

I had this feeling about you
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:46 GMT
#876
ugh

feels like such a shitty lynch

because it is a shitty lynch
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:47 GMT
#877
On September 07 2014 04:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 04:43 yamato77 wrote:
fuckin shit

I had this feeling about you

I actually stole your play from this game and used it to get town read in that game. LOL. When I called that one girl town for coming to the conclusion that I was town based off of her not pushing scum on me after giving herself every ample opportunity to do so -- that was basically what you did this game. Cept I'm fairly convinced that you did that as town here, which is why I thought it would seem super town there

meh, I played half of a day, so I don't really care what happens

but still

real jubjubs in that town

real jubjubs
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:50 GMT
#880
On September 07 2014 04:47 geript wrote:
I really don't see why any of you think Rayn is scum.

I don't see why you think anyone is scum
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 19:50 GMT
#881
thingy totes scum tho
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 20:29 GMT
#909
geript

give me the grail
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 20:33 GMT
#910
who doesn't think I'm town?

seriously.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 21:11 GMT
#941
i expressly do not want to lynch damdred

lynch rayn

these are my parting words
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 21:38 GMT
#955
Rayn is mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2014 21:59 GMT
#970
Lulz. No flip is such a cocktease setup.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 00:39 GMT
#984
Robik you're an idiot.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 05:18 GMT
#1025
I think rayn is town now

and I'm much less psyched that robik has the grail as a result
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 05:19 GMT
#1026
it's easy to make oats look bad, yes
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 05:33 GMT
#1028
probably not mafia:

ritoky
sylencia
geript

potential mafia:

maybe oats
maybe rayn
maybe robik
maybe you

haru
dam
LM

in no particular order
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 05:43 GMT
#1032
you literally can't fake cc martyr
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 18:30 GMT
#1122
I want rayn to be useful.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 18:58 GMT
#1125
Geript seems rather invested in the game. I can't say the same for Rob even though he's spammed up the thread.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 19:01 GMT
#1128
Does it matter?

I thought he looked bad D1 but there's nothing exactly definitive.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 19:03 GMT
#1130
If I go by what you are supposedly looking at, miss.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 20:51 GMT
#1150
This game is pretty troll.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 08 2014 22:01 GMT
#1156
It's hard to tell if he is basically just going to tunnel sloosh

Instead of scum reads, I want people to begin listing people they think are definitive townies. This game is only ever going to work if people begin trusting one another.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 01:47 GMT
#1165
On September 09 2014 07:44 slOosh wrote:
yamato, read on LoneMeow? Also please answer what the heck your read on Damdred is right now?

LM seems pretty tryhard. I remember him posting much less content and such as a townie before. Not sure he suddenly just starts bombing out cases on people as a mafia player.

Damdred I gave an answer on. It's hard to read him at the moment with his tunnel and all the pressure on him.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 04:13 GMT
#1190
ritoky you need to play the fucking game

asking about koshi all day is fucking useless
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 04:35 GMT
#1202
really, still on about sylencia?

I wanted more than that, rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 04:43 GMT
#1206
I also don't like your push about Koshi

meh

not happy with rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 18:40 GMT
#1313
Really?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 09 2014 23:28 GMT
#1357
I might help later.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 16:27 GMT
#1491
Sylencia did have an amazingly bad fakeclaim in Desert, no?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 16:39 GMT
#1492
Will check once I have a non-thirdworld internet connection in a short period of time.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 16:54 GMT
#1496
Oats is probably mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#1510
I'm fine with Geript's lynch list.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 19:52 GMT
#1521
Unless real acolyte is dead, there's no reason for him not to CC sylencia. And how would mafia know either way for him to make a play like this?

Thus there is no reason for syl to be the lynch.

Oats in particular has had a lackluster game since the very beginning and is pushing horrible lynches. I'd like to see him dead.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 19:56 GMT
#1526
They would have had to have targeted Koshi for a dead player to be the Acolyte and them know it.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 19:58 GMT
#1527
Oh, I love lynching geript btw, but he's not mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 20:03 GMT
#1529
One more damaging to counterclaim.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 20:10 GMT
#1535
On September 11 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 05:03 yamato77 wrote:
One more damaging to counterclaim.


acolyte is incredibly damaging to counterclaim, if someone counterclaims you and they have made some things obvious in their filter, it potentially becomes an instant 2 for 1 trade; coupled with the fact that the witches likely know someone else's role as well from last night. 3 for 1????? how is that not damaging?

If you are acolyte and made it obvious you are an idiot anyway.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 20:43 GMT
#1550
Rayn could still be mafia if he actually believes the geript read of his is good.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 21:46 GMT
#1582
Voting oats
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 22:00 GMT
#1592
Mafia can bus in this setup, geript
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2014 22:11 GMT
#1598
Well that solves that.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2014 23:35 GMT
#1606
interesting.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 00:35 GMT
#1615
more inclined to believe ritoky
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 01:41 GMT
#1618
damdred I don't trust you
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 01:44 GMT
#1620
because you haven't been very townie
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:03 GMT
#1623
damdred I read your filter from that game

emotional appeals are not going to work
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#1627
</3
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 02:25 GMT
#1630
you probably knew he targeted you

which means the oracle is probably dead
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 03:12 GMT
#1638
On September 12 2014 11:34 Damdred wrote:
Are you even reading Yamato, I can't sleep after reading that!

He checked haru who came back red not me!

rit is scum

well if he's the true cop then you would obviously be with haru

just sayin
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 04:41 GMT
#1651
Why would we want haru to claim?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:35 GMT
#1674
the situation breaks down like this:

either dam/haru are mafia, and they used demon to know that the cop (ritoky) was going to check haru and thus had to fakeclaim

or

ritoky is mafia and has CC'd in desperation
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 05:37 GMT
#1675
the syl kill heavily implies a planned cop fakeclaim, a la scenario 1
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 13:51 GMT
#1709
rayn you are playing horrible
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 15:19 GMT
#1712
so damdred

why am i mafia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 16:52 GMT
#1740
rayn points out an interesting discrepancy in ritoky's claim with him switching to having checked damdred somehow

hm
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 17:19 GMT
#1750
On September 13 2014 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Haru and Damdred were mafia and knew ritoky was the cop and checked Damdred it would have been Haru who claims the cop.

Damdred's play makes sense from cop pov and he is obviously the cop because he checked me on N1.

Don't be stupid if you are town yamato.

why is that necessarily the case?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 17:49 GMT
#1758
well initially ritoky's big post looked convincing

but everything else he's posted doesn't inspire confidence

and I did read them the other way around at one point

it's just pivotal to make the correct decision
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#1770
It's definitely not as clear cut as rayn wants to make it out to be
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 19:30 GMT
#1835
occam's razor says ritoky is mafia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:32 GMT
#1873
the amount of misinformation about the setup on this page is too high

angels don't know the cop check

and mafia can't both soup and witch kill

read the fucking OP
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:49 GMT
#1881
this is really simple

One of two things is going on:

dam + haru are both fakeclaiming because they have a demon result that one of them got checked and they have a necro check on robik who was the actual exorcist. this scenario seemingly plays out as remaining duo with a third dead. it also relies on a lot of assumptions, none of which we can confirm

OR

ritoky is the fakeclaimer, and had to do so because he got redchecked with his pants down. his claim SEEMS weaker because of the stuff rayn has pointed out, and indeed, believing it fake is the simpler solution.

I also had the read that I thought damdred was town mid-late D1, but honestly I overstated it on purpose because I wanted to lynch lazy rayn. ritoky hasn't been very productive overall this game with the majority of his filter being one of three things: campaigning, koshi's alignment, and sylencia's lynch.

What gives me pause is that I still don't particularly trust rayn, even though he's been quick to point out the holes in ritoky's claim. I don't like that he seems so cocksure while being such a prick to everyone in the thread that shows even the slightest hesitation about the claim.

geript I believe is town to an extent, so I don't like that push from rayn either. He seemingly is calling him mafia because he's not on the same page, but any reasonable townie wouldn't be so sure as rayn is. Regardless of the truth in the claiming situation, I don't like rayn coming out of this.

Sloosh and LM are borderline. If ritoky is mafia, there is a moderate chance that one of them is with him. Likewise if Haru/Dam is a team.

If Haru's claim is legitimate, we know for certain that one of koshi/oats was mafia, and that ritoky has only a single partner left. If he's fakeclaiming, we cannot have the same surety, as he would only ever do so in a world where the exorcist is already dead.

I'm leaning heavily toward voting for ritoky but I'm not at all thrilled about the state of the discussion going on at this juncture and all the pressure put towards geript.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:52 GMT
#1883
On September 13 2014 05:50 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LoneMeow
HaruRH
raynpelikoneet
geript
slOosh
yamato77
Damdred
ritoky

8 alive. Let's say i am the crusader and get lynched. i shoot ritoky.
5-1. You shoot geript and he is town.
4-1. Mafia soups 3. ggnore.

Hmm i guess you're right.
But if geript is not the last scum, i have no idea who is the last scum. Its like

Scum------------------------ not scum

Ritoky> geript>>>>>>> everyone else

For me.

how can you possibly have strong townreads on sloosh and LM

dude

posts like these are why I'm so hesitant to believe the claim
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:54 GMT
#1886
On September 13 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was not lazy i was busy.
I am never lazy.

When two people claim cop and one of them says "this dude is 100% mafia lynch him" and the other one says "are you softing my role? whatcha doing man? btw i have a red check on this other guy" who is scum?

if he fakeclaimed, why wouldn't he just redcheck the guy who is cop?

it works both ways rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:56 GMT
#1890
On September 13 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:54 yamato77 wrote:
On September 13 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was not lazy i was busy.
I am never lazy.

When two people claim cop and one of them says "this dude is 100% mafia lynch him" and the other one says "are you softing my role? whatcha doing man? btw i have a red check on this other guy" who is scum?

if he fakeclaimed, why wouldn't he just redcheck the guy who is cop?

it works both ways rayn

because it's too suspicious.
- "i have a red chek on you"
- "No, I have a red check on YOU!"


that's the basis of almost every other cop-counterclaim scenario in mafia, it's not at all unusual or suspicious
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:57 GMT
#1891
On September 13 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
maybe the oracle visited damdred on N2 and he couldn't possibly claim that.
who the fuck knows.

Demon: Every night you will learn the targets of the Inquisitor and the Oracle. You will not know which target was targeted by whom.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 20:59 GMT
#1894
is there a world where haru and ritoky are both mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 21:01 GMT
#1898
makes sense
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 21:03 GMT
#1900
On September 13 2014 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:59 yamato77 wrote:
is there a world where haru and ritoky are both mafia?

Not really, no. It's to complicated and i doubt i could myself make a plan like that on the fly when someone claims a red check on you.

he did take quite a while to post his claim post

meh

haru looks really bad IMO
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 21:14 GMT
#1904
he reminds me of a scum player that only ever made reads posts and coasted through to endgame
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 12 2014 21:19 GMT
#1909
we should lynch ritoky and see what happens tonight
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 14 2014 02:19 GMT
#1940
On September 14 2014 04:30 slOosh wrote:
I think we are just waiting to see if scum get the yolo soup off tomorrow.

this
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 15 2014 23:08 GMT
#1964
I'm not claiming anything because I don't trust rayn
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 03:58 GMT
#1969
rayn is mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 04:06 GMT
#1972
this claim plan is terrible

especially if rayn is mafia.

I refuse to claim until rayn does
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 06:07 GMT
#1975
I still think the claim plan is terrible.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 06:55 GMT
#1977
It's one of the only ways to lose at this point
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 15:47 GMT
#1985
There is no reason for me to claim when it could easily cost us the game.

I will look at sloosh and LM and come to a conclusion later. I've been sure about geript's alignment for a long time.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1987
Neither of us is mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1988
Rayn, you know I'm not mafia. You know.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 16:09 GMT
#1990
Because if we lynch incorrectly once, the mafia could yolosoup for the win with good logic and some guesswork. If you give him a bunch of logic statements to work with about claims you are just making that easier, even without direct claims.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#1993
Then continue your game with the other two. I am confirmed town anyway.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 19:52 GMT
#2010
what?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:12 GMT
#2031
Sloosh is right, he's never mafia here.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:30 GMT
#2038
rayn, I was CONFIRMED TOWN
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:32 GMT
#2042
koshi was the scummer

lolololol
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:40 GMT
#2051
oats = judge was the most obvious thing ever
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:40 GMT
#2052
why did I think he was mafia at all
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:48 GMT
#2057
well yeah, because as long as neither you or geript claim the haunt then mafia can't fakeclaim wraith without getting owned.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#2058
also why I should have suspected ritoky more. why claim the haunt as town, ever?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 17 2014 06:25 GMT
#2092
On September 17 2014 09:02 Damdred wrote:
Good job guys, honestly I almost quit the game every post early was stop being a whiny bitch damdred. Really glad I stuc it out. Glad we win gj town

I had the right read.

My specialty is reading the motivations of low-content posters
Writer@WriterYamato
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 674
ProTech142
JuggernautJason102
SpeCial 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 383
EffOrt 280
Larva 265
Dewaltoss 162
Bonyth 90
Mong 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7767
Dendi2012
420jenkins141
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu473
Other Games
Grubby4861
FrodaN1341
Beastyqt650
ceh9492
B2W.Neo356
shahzam337
Fuzer 317
ArmadaUGS227
mouzStarbuck162
C9.Mang077
Trikslyr35
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV55
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1067
League of Legends
• TFBlade1521
Other Games
• imaqtpie1396
• Shiphtur210
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
3h 52m
WardiTV 2025
14h 52m
MaNa vs Gerald
TBD vs MaxPax
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs ShoWTimE
OSC
17h 52m
YoungYakov vs Mixu
ForJumy vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
The PondCast
1d 12h
WardiTV 2025
1d 15h
Cure vs Creator
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.