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Season of the Witch Mafia

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2014 12:45 GMT
#8
/in
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 01:54 GMT
#186
This is the part where you give the grail to me.

Sloosh and koshi are scum.
##vote: koshi
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:37 GMT
#219
On September 04 2014 12:18 gobbledydook wrote:
Because there are no flips this game, I think the oracle proc will be very important in solving this game. As such I think we should make sure that the inquisitor and oracle visit the same target. The reason why I don't think the wraith should visit the same target as the inquisitor/oracle is because the witches know who the inquisitor and oracle visit, but if we make it known who the duo are visiting, then the mafia can't gain any new information. Meanwhile, the wraith can visit other people and hopefully hit the Grandier/Pope.

Who gives a shit dude?
Why are you caring about this rather than caring who's scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:38 GMT
#221
On September 04 2014 12:53 slOosh wrote:
ritoky, what should we do with the Grail?

Why are you asking ritoky. And why are you asking such a useless question
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:41 GMT
#226
On September 04 2014 13:03 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 12:18 gobbledydook wrote:
Because there are no flips this game, I think the oracle proc will be very important in solving this game. As such I think we should make sure that the inquisitor and oracle visit the same target. The reason why I don't think the wraith should visit the same target as the inquisitor/oracle is because the witches know who the inquisitor and oracle visit, but if we make it known who the duo are visiting, then the mafia can't gain any new information. Meanwhile, the wraith can visit other people and hopefully hit the Grandier/Pope.


From N2+ depending on how it goes (still interpreting this setup) shouldn't the Angelic Protection + Oracle visit line up instead? If town makes it clear who is the ideal target to protect before the night falls, it could free up the Inquisitor to start checking others.

Naturally the plan doesn't work if a witch is killed D1, but that's already a win.

Also, the flaw in following this plan N1 is by lining up who is getting checked, they will either be confirmed witch regardless (they won't kill their own teammate obviously) or they're going to die and the inquisitor check is wasted. Not sure if I actually like that.

Really really bad entry.
Why speculate on the setup with your first and second post and not eve bother about the main part of the game. You do realise that we can lynch someone today right? TODAY.

Top 3 scum reads now syl
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:44 GMT
#231
On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time

Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:47 GMT
#235
On September 04 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
##HolyGrail: geript

I leave this thread in your capable hands.

This right here. Feels so much like scum knowing who's town. And making the least suspicious vote for the holy grail. Also he didn't vote for himself or have any intention of voting for himself. The optimal play as town is ensuring you get the items. Koshi does not care about that. He cares about not drawing suspicion to himself by voting himself. Wrong focus. Scum. Lynch
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:52 GMT
#242
Ritoky, why did sloosh ask you that softball question? Was there previous interaction that I missed?

Sloosh is scum cause he hasn't done anything useful yet. Just asked a few useless questions.
So he has the time to post a bit but doesn't do anything with that time.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 04:53 GMT
#244
Or syl, you could be scum that doesn't want to lurk and finds the most innocuous thing to talk about.

Do you care whether the thread thinks you are town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 05:00 GMT
#248
Fine syl, just find some scum since apparently you have time to argue your side you surely have time to find scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 05:04 GMT
#252
Meh, the defense was not alignment indicative for me. What's more telling is the lack of follow up to that. Instead he keeps asking about the grail.
Actually it's easier for scum to defend cause they are biased. After you know the alignments, motivation for doing something is easy to find.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 05:06 GMT
#253
Everyone so far thought that question was useless sloosh. What did you gain from it?

Why do you spend half that post complaining and the other half setup speculating? As far as I remember, you aren't a bug fan of breaking themed games.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#284
On September 04 2014 14:09 slOosh wrote:
Ok this is nonsense what's going on so I'm gonna shut it down independent of Oats' actual alignment.

Oats is posturing into a position where he is blaming people and saying that they aren't scumhunting. Realize that this itself isn't scumhunting. You tell me what Oats has done to scum hunt. Nothing. That question at this point is total bogus.

Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.

Oats, now to you specifically, this game is unique theme. Don't just port over heuristics lazily and pretend you are all that. If you have specific things you want to grill me on, then go ahead, but I'm asking you to change your current approach of pointing fingers at everyone.

Im sorry what?

Please quote something about setup that in your words " was a great means of developing information and reads."

Who exactly is 'everyone" that I have pointed fingers to.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 07:36 GMT
#286
I just saw this.
I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.

So you want to have setup talk to develop information and reads.

But you dont actually want to have setup talk.
##unvote
##vote sloosh
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 07:43 GMT
#289
I really dont understand why sloosh is promoting setup talk when its more likely that you slip your role as opposed to not talking about it at all.

I dont see any way to break the game cause soup kills imba.
So stop talking about it.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 07:45 GMT
#290
On September 04 2014 16:43 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I just saw this.
I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.

So you want to have setup talk to develop information and reads.

But you dont actually want to have setup talk.
##unvote
##vote sloosh


I feel that is quoting sloosh out of context. the way i read it he is discussing the setup and comes to the conclusion that it is hard to actually execute any coordinated power role plan because any claim will get souped.

I think that is a fair point to make even though I do think the inquisitor+oracle visit should yield the most information for the two.

So sloosh concludes that setup discussion is useless right?

But in the very next post, he wants people to discuss the setup.
There is no point discussing the setup if there is no advantage to be gained. And there isnt.
So many roles are standalone.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 08:08 GMT
#292
nah this is in present tense
The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.


He also says that I should stop stopping people from talking about it. Clearly he thinks its useful.
But he didnt think its useful before.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 12:25 GMT
#298
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 12:28 GMT
#300
high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

Not true.

Sloosh is just mucking about asking weirdass questions that still hasnt lead to anything.
How is him saying that nothing more can be discussed about setup and then encouraging discussion about setup a good thing???
Where am I cherry picking instead of not bothering to post irrelevant nonsense?


I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place.

Why is calling someone scum without reasoning objectively scummy? I explained it eventually.
Do you disagree with my read on Koshi?
gobble, what do you read someone like him?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 12:57 GMT
#303
On September 04 2014 21:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

SlOosh because he posts things. He is trying to figure the game out.
Because I feel that this list was worth posting.

prove the sloosh thing.
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