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On September 05 2014 01:43 IAmRobik wrote: Rayn made a huge scum slip, but I'm the only one who will notice it, so I'm not even goign to bother explaining cause people will think I'm crazy. Just know that if Rayn is scum, I caught him off of this post. Can you explain it to me robik, I promise I won't think our crazier than I already do | ||
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On September 05 2014 01:46 IAmRobik wrote: Damdred is in this game? Fraid so, just got my new phone so I can post whenever I want now. On September 05 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote: Oh boy this is exciting, I was waiting for this. Hey Damdred. What are your three biggest thoughts right now? One thing right now is that robik says he got a scum read on rayn, but doesn't want to talk about it to avoid pressure? What is that? If you think someone is scum you should press it and try to destroy the scum, its robik why is he scared of pressure? And not sure why if rayn is scum it would make him nervous of ger From rereading filters so far and catching up I like gooble, asks some good questions and it seems to have some follow up. And Koshi is not his normal self it feels like. I know he says hes tring a new non mass posting thing, but pregame he said he would be posting lots and a lot of his posts lack a ton of content and some of his reads lack some explanations. Asks a lot of questions without drawing conclusions once asked it seems. | ||
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On September 05 2014 02:19 slOosh wrote: So you are saying robik and Koshi are suspicious for playing "out of character"? Itmakes me hesitate about them. Koshi did say before the game started 20 posts a day or gtfo andd 2 page filter d1 for him, so I interpreted what he meant badly I guess. However his two pages aren't normal koshi usually he pressures or questions. but almost everything is questions with little follow up and noconclussions shown that bothers me about koshi atm. Robik, usually he does not shy from pressure, normally he posts whatever he feels like generally. And then he posts two posts about how he does not want pressure from rayn. A bit weird to me. @robiks post, idk if I would of voted you then. Never know who to trust. | ||
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On September 05 2014 09:12 slOosh wrote: I've given a total list of my reads few pages back. geript ticks up because of that post I pointed out and how strange it is. I know Damdred is a totally capable player able to invest himself into a game, and yet 24 hours in all Damdred has been able to do this game is a couple of "I feel iffy" posts, one only because I prompted it. Your vote is not a bad one I have been absent for a good portion of the thread. However Sloosh your vote worries me for a few reasons. I responded a couple of times to you, and you did not interact with them much instead you just kind of dropped the subject instead of trying to see if you could get any more information out of me from my three big things. Your filter currently is a lot like Koshi, it looks a bit better however you do not draw a lot of conlusions from what you post honestly. Even your big list post you look at people and go not scum not scume, plays good scum must be watchful. Its this many hours into the game and yet you haven't taken a hard stance on anyone but put your vote down on me? If you vote me for I feel iffy posts your big list post deserves your own vote | ||
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On September 05 2014 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote: People calling other people's scumread on them good doesn't make me feel good. Sloosh, all your scumreads seem to be more like "hasn't done anything," or "good player, watch." none of the active people are scummy to you? So do you think mafia is all lurking and not trying to do anything today? never did I say the scum read was good. I said the reason was ok | ||
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I like his filter looks pretty town to me, and Koshi I like this you better than the earlier you | ||
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On September 06 2014 02:45 slOosh wrote: You got me. Ignored the post partly because I didn't really have any meaningful reads on them yet, partly because I wanted to see you offer something of your own. But you've picked up your posting and I like the spotlight on the "big name" players. I feel better about rayn after his most recent slew of posts, particularly the setup one, because it's the same plan I thought up of to myself, and I'm less inclined to think scum rayn would freely give up that info because it's dubious if town would have figured it out. Nothing alarming about Koshi at this point either. I think the best lynch at this point is Damdred, and I feel better about this than other lynches because it seems like people are ignoring him. Part of it is meta - Damdred plays an active town game. Look at Neat and Tidy Mafia. 4 pages and was shot N1. Now contextually he is playing 2 games at once, so perhaps a lower post count is expected. So let's look at the actual content of his posts. There are several things that are out of place with this post. First is calling my vote "not bad". So he admits that his play may warrant a vote. But then right after he says my vote is worrisome. Huh? Why say "your vote is understandable", and then immediately say "your vote is worrisome"? It is inconsistent. Then, watch this, be blames me for failing to interact with him. He blames me for not prying the information out of Damdred. It's my fault that Damdred holds valuable information, but did not pursue it. That is extremely convoluted thinking for town to make. You don't say "hey you didn't ask me for my reads, you are scum". Yet that is what Damdred does here. Next he tells me how my play is poor, and essentially calls me a hypocrite. What he doesn't do, is call me scum. If I'm doing all these things that he accuses me of, where I "haven't taken a hard stance", then by all means he should be calling me scum! Instead he complains how my vote is on him, and complains how I should be voting myself. This isn't town mentality. It's totally scum mentality. Because he knows I'm town, he is treating me such, even though his words betray that he wants to call me scum. Just because something is understandable does not mean it does not worry me sloosh. I can understand something and still be worried about it, for example i can understand if someone takes money from their job and throws it in their car. However it worries me becuase it could get stolen. I understand people not locking car doors sometimes but it worries me that the car might get stolen (-_-). You asked me for three big things and followed it up with a question and I answered, but YOU did not follow up anymore. If you were really worried about what I thought you might of asked for more information. But you based your vote on that partly. And your read list does not have any hard stances in it, your vote on me was the first hard stance you took | ||
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Rob, you look more town then when I said I was worried about you. You don't look like scum rob from guilty when I played with you. | ||
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Sloosh is making a weak case on me and refuses to even give his other scum reads. I'll use the last 24 hours to try to give a read for everyone across the board incase I get lynched though. | ||
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I'll put the effort in to give reads on everyone soon as I get off work. I think I'll probably vote for rob for grail if he votes for me or not his responses and reasonings at this point sound town | ||
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Anyway, your case on me is misrepresentation. You say I make a big deal about nothing, but every single post sloosh makes now has me in it. He refuses to give other scum reads and is starting to give people scum points for town reading me. So I think you are misrepresenting the situation and the conversations myself and sloosh have had. Also more misrepresentation I said to robik over the next day or so I would give reads on everone and filter dive everyone and I will do that before lynch time. Nice vote btw good thing i was paying attention to the thread. Pretty sure gobble is scum though | ||
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On September 06 2014 23:31 yamato77 wrote: damdred, you need to post a lot or you will die obvious post is obvious right? | ||
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On September 06 2014 23:42 IAmRobik wrote: WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU REREADING. STOP FUCKING POSTING UNLESS YOU'RE GIVING A HUGE FUCKING REREAD POST DAMDRED I am rereading and filter diving and keeping up with whats being posted. So get off your horse and calm down, I can talk about whatever whenever I want. | ||
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On September 07 2014 00:26 Koshi wrote: Out of Sylencia and Damdred I want to lynch Damdred. This looks like a buddying attempt to me. I shouldn't look better to him when I just had him in my scumlist. Koshi, was reading your filter. You seem pretty solid on gobble town and said in one post that her posts make you feel that way. What changed? Was it just because gobble put the vote on you and left for awhile? In a follow up post you said that gobbles early game was scummy. If you thought the early game was scummy why did you have gobble in your town pile to start with? | ||
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On September 07 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote: Good thing you're putting in the work to make us reconsider Yep because being a dick to someone in the game and yelling at them when they are tring to talk makes that person feel like doing work right? Good job rob I feel really motivated to prove my towniness to you | ||
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On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote: Damdred is basically scum claiming. "I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town" goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one "guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour" leaves again "guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town" Fuck that shit. Except obviously i'm actually reading filters since you know I asked questions to koshi from his fucking filter right? RIGHT? | ||
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On September 07 2014 00:56 IAmRobik wrote: Damdred. if you're town, I'm gonna be so fucking pissed at you for being a lazy POS. You can easily get town!read if you do work, ask correct questions, give logical reads, and just put in effort. Your unwillingness to do that (if you're town) is unacceptable. It's atrocious. And I'll be really fucking mad at you. Like, genuinely pissed off. Yea look at it from my position rob. I get in the thread make a few posts start reading, koshis here so I ask him the questions I have jotted down from my thread. Since I got up this morning everyone has jumped on me basically and started voting me and yelled at me to do more. You guys have been pricks to me since i re-entered the thread, you are going to be pissed at me come end of game, but ill still protect you tonight cause I like winning games instead of losing them. So yea, you guys want actual content from people do not be pricks because you do not think they are doing enough, all of my posts i directed at sloosh he basically ignored and my lines of communication were shut. I posted my suspicions on people got one or two replies and then boom case on me everyone jumps on me. So yea good job town | ||
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On September 07 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote: When you're town you provide content. You are at least moderately active. You've been MIA as fuck all game. It's unacceptable. It's uncharacteristic of your town play. Your desire to play the other game over this one adds to my suspicions of you. If you're town, I implore you to read the thread and come back with your reads. If you have to ask questions along the way to do that, that's fine, but you CANNOT sit here and do no work, ask two questions and then say "yeah, cmon guys, i'm doing stuff can't you see" No. NO NO NO Good god rob look at what you are doing! I start posting stuff and then people are like lolz damdred so scums votes him. Oh i'm goin to be so pissed off if you are town lolz. I started doing shit and people jumped down my throat for it, its fucking demotivating and shitty. | ||
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Overall he lacks direction, he at one point says that talking about setup is scummy because it helps scum but then he ends up talking about setup On September 06 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record this will be the last post about setup speculation and how the setup is played. You will all listen to me now. The cop claims on D2 if they have guilty. 1-1 trade is very good because the cop gets souped on N1 and we will know the dead players roles. The oracle visits the cop on N2 if this happens. If there is one mafia left on D3, they claim. Then we massclaim. There are roles that cannot be counter-claimed. The claiming will go like this: scummiest player first ---->>> townier. people claim if they are cc-able roles or non-cc-able roles. roles that shoot are non-ccable. + some other roles. I think everyone is smart enough to figure out which roles. There IS gonna be a counter-claim if town has played well enough (the martyr has martyred on N1 -- and we have lynched mafia on D1). Insta-win gg. We literally win the game 100% if we lynch mafia on D1 and the cop gets a guilty on N1. If this does not happen do not claim. The oracle role MUST claim when there is 1 mafia left. They MUST!!!!! If he thinks its so helpful to scum then why does he give in? Normally Town!Rayn gives solid opinons and is quite stubborn and its quite a concern that instead of sticking to his guns that he would go into setup talk that he deems scummy. he talks about lynching Sly in several places in his filter On September 06 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is already a derp. Let's lynch Sylencia and i'll vote for you for the grail ok? For instance here, he does this a few more places before his vote change (he also has his vote on syl) On September 06 2014 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##DeadlineVote: Sloosh He does mention before hand that he thinks that sloosh is part of the scum team. However instead of pushing the idea that sloosh is scum team sloosh. He goes back to just saying On September 06 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sylencia is mafia because he read people he didn't really read scum as scum. On September 06 2014 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's kill sylenxia unless somwonw cc's govvle. If yiu aew martyr you need to cc him. 100% This seems weird to me, normally in my experience with Rayn as I mentioned before hes really head strong especially with his votes. If you look at Guilty mafia when he was town, he put his vote on hapa cause he knew that he wasn't town. He fucking knew it and he wasn't moving hell or high water, he did not care if anyone thought he was scummy for it. Fuck it this guy is scum, so i'm goin to fuck this thread up until I get votes. This is the typical experience I have had with Rayn in the four games that i've played with him as town. In N&T mafia he did the same thing with Koshi. Either he was goin to die or Koshi was basically, he did ease off koshi once he realized his mistake and got a warning from the mod. If you compare his game to titanic, he was a bit more wishy washy (he was scum there) he jumped from one person to another while saying someone else was scum. And normally his filter is bigger and just screams town. So he would be in my scum pile today | ||
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On September 07 2014 01:55 Koshi wrote: Why do you start diving me when we were together on gobble before? You were in the thread and I was trying to gather some questions for people from the thread and it caught my attention and you were here so why not ask? | ||
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On September 07 2014 02:00 Koshi wrote: So you have 0 clues were to start 48 hours in the game? What are you talking about? I saw some things in your filter I was curious about so I asked. What are you saying | ||
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On September 07 2014 02:39 Koshi wrote: Ughh rayn filter is kinda lacking and he didn't piss me off yet. Killing rayn D1 is really bad though. If you think someone is scum shouldn't you vote them no matter who they are? | ||
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Lets talk about what to do, nearing deadline, who alls here so we can see if we can get a majority atleast | ||
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So i'd be happy to move to geript or lynch rayn at this point, i'd rather not lynch me but we do need a majority | ||
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Geript why do you want haru dead so much? Just because he was useless day 1? Meta wise generally town haru usually shines day 2 and onward so i'd want to see what he can do some today. | ||
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While it does fit into some of the scum games like titanic it is mssong some of the elements like his being exceptionally dicky to people just to be an ass. I also made a point about him voting someone and saying lunch someone else. He has a history of doing that as well, a recent game of n&t shows him doing this d1 and d2. So on further thoughts I do not think my meta case has me convinced he's scum. On phone so can't quote well, but he has some townt stuff though its not quite rayn going to be #1 nk. | ||
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Also get that's a bad meta case on me, I'm usually wishy washy with my reads early and always second guess myself till later | ||
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Ger could you tell me why you picked teh scum team you did? | ||
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Sure could you actually answer the question | ||
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On September 09 2014 02:48 ritoky wrote: what made you more confident now? also what else did you change your mind on? Koshis general demeanor in the thread, he really did not seem like town koshi after a reread. Besides a few posts he did not have a lot of scum reads, and even when he was on me for instance it did not feel like he was really pushing like town koshi would do. Koshi was a hit and Rayn is not scum is what i've changed my mind on some far | ||
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You gave a smart ass reply not an actual answer, so if you could quit trying to play at semantics it would be cool. | ||
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Ok then answer, we know haru. But why did you pick the other people | ||
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And cool rob, i get yelled at for bein absent and voted for. I actually am present an dinteracting I get voted for | ||
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Ger is twisting meta that isn't even true really to scum read me, and robs using me posting in both places to scum read me. | ||
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On September 09 2014 04:13 ritoky wrote: okay, i won't twist anything; i will ask for your word instead. why are you spending significantly more time in the other game than this one? and why did you lie about it to me earlier? I haven't lied to you Rit at all, the other game is day 3 48+48+24+24. This game started around the time my cell was up in Cell mafia, I had my car stolen with my computer and cell phone in it. My activity on all three games basically hit 0 around the time that happened until I could get replacements, cell had 2 posts, this had 1 post and mission had maybe 2-3 if that. Once I got a new phone I was able to post more day 2 there, and start here, but by then sloosh decided to jump on me before I could catch up and read the way I normally would. Also, I generally respond to things directed at me in all the games I play with and comment on things that I want to otherwise. I posted about things that have looked off to me here, so far. And my meta is still being twisted to be the opposite of what it is for early in the game. So no i'm not lying to you rit. | ||
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On September 09 2014 04:41 geript wrote: Are you saying that for as long as people call you mafia for being useless you'll continue to be useless and whine about it? So when someone points out your meta you'll just say it's being twisted. Some you've managed to be a great lynch. If you actually give a real meta read on me instead of lying and say i'm never wishy washy or act this way. Sure, but i'll call something shit when it is shit ty | ||
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On September 09 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote: how about you do this CRAZY thing and give reads and explain them. You skated by yesterday on no activity. You better fucking step up your game and quit being a little whiney bitch Go be useful mister grail user  . People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones | ||
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You scum read me based on me posting in another game that is at a more advanced stage, while i'm actually trying to talk to people here to form opinons and you yell at me? Go ahead string me up idgaf | ||
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-You ask a lot of questions, without drawing a lot of noticeable conclusions from the questions, you also have a bad habit of dropping almost all lines of questionings past the initial question answer. No follow up normally in most of your posts. -Your giant read post basically boils down to either, this person is town or lets wait and see. At that point in the thread you had asked a ton of questions and talked to most of the people in the thread, but everything was 100% unsure at that point no hard stances taken. -Your one hard point in the whole game was lynch damdred, you refuse to give other scum reads, and just direct people towards me since I believe I am a pretty easy mislynch since a lot of thread sentiment is against me. And your day 2 hasn't been much different. So yes I think your scum. | ||
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On August 21 2014 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: And btw i really do think Koshi is mafia. I don't care how many scum he has lynched but town!Koshi would NEVER EVER think i am mafia, or that you are mafia. Just kill him with fire on D5. On August 21 2014 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: At the time i switched my vote on bats they were smth like 4-3 or 3-3 in votes. I was pushing MM1 and EVERYONE KNOWS if i want to lynch someone it WILL happen if i want to. Especially in this game, with these players. I do not think Koshi was pushing bats as hard as he is now telling he was. Because he wasn't!!! VE you can lynch me and then decide if Koshi or Onegu is mafia. And you'll most likely end up lynching Onegu anyways. Or you can lynch Koshi and if by some miracle the game goes on you can autowin by lynching Onegu. Your choise. Koshi is too dick to live, and i am pretty sure he is mafia because he is saying stuff that DOES NOT HOLD WATER!!! It doesn't. On August 21 2014 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sucks to be scum when your team does not play right? You claimed mafia in your posts on VE. game solved gg. I could go on and on, but no rayn you did say and act like koshi was mafia for over half of that day. Theres probably a good 10-15 more posts dedicated to koshi being mafia. Sure you could say that you were throwing the game at that point. But you sure were acting like koshi was mafia, and then you calmed down the later half of the day. | ||
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On September 09 2014 22:50 Sylencia wrote: Damdred you never gave me a list of scum reads I believe, the only person I can see from your filter is sloosh (in terms of suspects) who else is scum? Your right I never did and I got distracted there have been several questions in the thread that i will answer now though. Haru: I soft defended him yesterday due to knowing how he acts normally on day 1, hes never confidant in his reads or what hes thinking day 1. In the several games i've played with him he always says hes a much better play day 2 and hes a monster (different wording) past day 3. I believe this to be pretty much true, he gains a lot more confidence and his cases always improve as we go past day one. The question came up why I said he might be scum. Well it's simple he still had not done anything really at that time on day 2, however he let loose a lot of what I would consider good content posts. I am pretty sure that this is town!Haru at this point in the day. As for my scum suspicion list right now: Sloosh: I've made several posts about him now and everyone says I am tunneled. So i'm just not going to post about him after this post, I am instead going to look at other people and try to find out what I can. If I still feel the same way after the day I'll come back and push him if I do not have a better case on someone else. @ LoneMeow On September 08 2014 21:27 LoneMeow wrote: slOosh I read him scum earlier and not much has changed. He asks questions but there's no followup. First says he feels better about raynpelikoneet (who he never really called scum anyway): Then once Damdred makes his case on raynpelikoneet, he's suddenly up to lynching raynpelikoneet: Not a towny thought progression. ##DeadlineVote: slOosh On September 08 2014 21:34 LoneMeow wrote: Damdred Was leaning town on him earlier for his early game suspicion of IAmRobik at a stage where I don't see scum doing that. The way he's all defensive but not producing many reads when the pressure is on him is suspicious, but the case on raynpelikoneet shows clear effort. Except for the fact that he then pretty much says he didn't actually do a proper meta comparison and upon checking better retracts the case. Verdict: Leaning scum. Most likely not scum if slOosh is, though. I'm curious about your thought progression on these two posts. A few questions: 1) Does not a apparent towny thought progression means scum all the time? 2) If he thinks both of us are scum, as is evident I think in the way he posts some things what the difference between lynching either of us? 3) You say that Sloosh lacks direction in his filter, he generally talks about setup me and other questions to people. He has three distinct directions he takes, could you talk more about how he lacks direction and what you mean exactly. And why vote him over me who you have leaning scum, and you state that one of us have to be scum the other town why do you say that? | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you say i am lying about what i did... as town? What the fuck are you talking about??? I'm saying that theres plenty of quotes in N&T that say, KOSHI IS MAFIA VOTE HIM. If you go and look, you say you didn't think that but were voting him and saying all that to throw the game, I said that you calmed down the second half of the day and just went after onegu first. I never said ou were lying but the first half of that day greatly emphaises the fact that you said koshi was scum | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred who says you're being tunneled on Sloosh? Yamato for one, i'd have to reread some of the thread otherwise but hes said it i know | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well he is wrong or scum because that's the towniest thing you have done this game. Why do you think you should not talk about Sloosh any more if yamato says so? Because if I am tunneled on him, I feel like its good to get my eyes somewhere else to try to look for scum elsewhere, and during that time he could be doing other things in the thread that he normally wouldn't do if i was constantly pressuring him. Once I get done looking elsewhere I can relook at him and what hes posted since I stopped looking at him and maybe see things I didn't see before since i was focusing soley on a few things he was saying and have new stuff. | ||
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On September 10 2014 01:13 geript wrote: Nope. We lynch Sylencia. I'd rather not lynch into an uncc'd claim | ||
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Sloosh ignores later in my filter and just misrepresents everything going on. Hes scum i'm voting him | ||
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On September 10 2014 03:40 yamato77 wrote: Really? To which party yamato | ||
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Talk to me about geript, what do you think about him sticking his vote on syl and not moving it after he claimed and nobody has cc'd it? What else makes you not trust him? | ||
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With his reads, most of them are meta reads I think. Do you think hes twisting the meta reads to fit the narrative of those people being scummy? Also the people hes putting those types of reads on do they have stuff in the game that would fit the scum better you think? | ||
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Rit stop being lazy | ||
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If we got koshi that takes us down to 2 scums if we get someone who claims and they are scum isn't it better to trade and take scum down to one? | ||
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Also look at his votes yesterday, he was unwilling to move off of the claim. Until someone else was brought up he said he'd be down for that. He just wanted to kill someone. also if you compare this to his town games this is not normal rit, no vote analysis or anything he's known for. that's what led me to check him he's red | ||
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I checked rayn night 1 which is why I said he was town day 2 so fast | ||
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Instead of pushing his red check he is only pushing me, ritoky is scum and is CC me to take me out now. All I care about is pushing my check, which is rit is scum. | ||
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So I hope town loses this game IDC I got treated like trash soon as I came back to the thread, and all its been all game is lynch damdred and I'll be glad after today. Also the game everyone gave me crap for posting in and trying in, I was mafia so fuck you guys | ||
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Like yea | ||
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He checked haru who came back red not me! rit is scum | ||
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I'm the cop thread | ||
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Rit will say heals mafia....but I know rit is a witch, so I'd rather keep the caiming to 0 to stop the soup I think | ||
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I tried to justify my switch on rayn which I didn't do well at all, and I really tried to not soft. Also I don't think inquisitor is aware if they were visited....thats a lot of info that is there | ||
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But I will agree its null at best and won't bring it up | ||
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N1: Rayn, I gave a meta read on rayn and I did not see a huge amount of the normal town tayn in his filter at the time. I was voting on him and I thought there was a good chance that he could be scum based on those things. However I was mistaken and he's thankfully town. n2: This was the hard night for me I had three choices in my mind and even had one of them types out before I chose rit. I was torn between checking rit, gerip and lm. Lm felt weird because of a few reads but I did not seriously consider checking. I almost checked gerip because of the pressure he was under and everyone was saying. However the eod thread led me to put him on hold. Rit had my attention because he did not seem his normal self in the thread. There were several times he was hostile in my mind for example the counterclaim questions. He's usually not quite as short with people in my experience. His akowledged only lyching syl today, but several times being happy to kill me or in the ends oats. He just did not seem to be really scum hunting in the thread rather he was discrediting people. And that is why I wanted to check him over the otgers | ||
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Geript answer me this, how can my filter look more cop like but I'm less towny? I'm here for awhile | ||
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You could be mafia, haven't done much but you are still here. So the safe bet after rit the mafia is lm or geript, but not sure. I'm really struggling, I just know it is a witch | ||
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On September 13 2014 03:37 geript wrote: Because I wanted you to pick up my hint and counterclaim HaruRH for a reaction. but I'm not rayn who you were trying to bait? Seems this sentence is wrong then | ||
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I think that's as close to a concede as we will get. Yamato come join us on rit | ||
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